Thor: Love plus Thunder minus Comedy

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There are aspects of the original Thor: Love and Thunder that I enjoyed but the "comedy" (if you'd like to call it that) made it almost unbearable. Everything we'd seen in the past of Thor's character arc, with his mourning, his humility, and declining mental health, had all been thrown to the wayside to make room for an at times childish Thor and cheap, middle school humor. Unfortunately, I think there's very little any editor could do to try and resurrect any sort of character or story progression from the atrocity that is Thor 4 but Tremault's edit seems to smooth out the ride of the original trainwreck and that's definitely worth some praise.

Purely based on personal preference, there are parts that I would've liked to see remain in this cut, like the falling glass temple, Thor's (admittedly lame but funny) slow glide into screen when Star Lord looks at the Guardians and the absurdity of Zeus (which, I think, actually fits given the character). Not all comedy was bad comedy in the original, the majority of it was though. Ultimately, this was a MUCH better version than the original and I'd 1000% watch this before watching the official release. Thanks, Tremault!

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This edit is so well done! The tone is steady and the remaining jokes are funny. Gorr is creepy and always feels looming; and I love that we understand his motivation from the go and his change of wish feels more believable now. I feel like theirs some audio issues once they arrive in the shadow realm but not detrimental. I love that korg is limited but the song when zues kills him feels clunky. Also, since you cut that New Asgard is a tourist trap you should cut them converting the ship from a ride, if possible. Also, if you put the flashbacks in the beginning after he closes his eyes so that star lord snaps him out of it might flow better. I love janes reveal, both as thor and that she has cancer. Her death broke my wife in this version lol

Long story short, this edit is amazing; turning a terrible movie into something worth watching!!!

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Owner's reply March 05, 2023

I love that the emotional weight of Jane's story came across :)
I'm sorry that your wife was upset, but also happy if you get my meaning ^^;

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The theatrical cut was messy and full of poor attempts at humor (and screaming goats, for some reason).. This edit does a great job at trimming most of the cringe out of this film, and greatly improves it. Makes me wish the theatrical cuts of MCU movies had editors who cared as much about the story as Tremault seemingly does.
I loved how Gorr's story and motivation are clearer, how we discover who the Mighty Thor is together with "our" Thor, how we discover that underneath her facade - Jane actually is suffering, how Sif now actually talks more like a true Asgardian, and many, many more changes.
Not everything is perfect about this edit, of course. The source material was full of quips and jokes, so trimming them leads to some continuity issues (e.g., location changes, props disappearing) and pacing issues (hardly any time to breathe).
All in all - most of those issues did not bother me too much. There were only two things I wish would be altered if Tremault plans on creating another version of this edit:
(1) 41:50 The use of November Rain feels very out of place. I think there's no need for anothe GnR song in the movie - and especially in this scene. I would replace it with some instrumental piece from the OST..
(2) 1:05:20 I understand there's no way to completely cut the scenes in which the kids gain powers, but if there's a way to further trim some of them (i.e., if there's a kid fighting without Thor in the frame) - trim it.
Keep up the good work!

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Tremault - I am shocked by how much better you made it.
I'm a big marvel fan and I wrote this movie off as just being too dumb to watch again. You cutting out all the cringy & lame comedy really brings the heart of the movie out.
Thanks for working on it and I will save this version as the one I watch

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Tremault had some serious work cut out trying to remove the comedy from this deeply awkward entry in the MCU but has largely succeeded in crafting something watchable and actually quite moving here. The brutal arc of Jane Foster throughout the film no longer feels undercut at every possible turn (particularly as death is elsewhere treated as something reversable and comic in the original cut of the movie -- looking at you, Korg). Some of the fixes don't entirely work (the dream sequence cutaway with Zeus is a valiant attempt to trim the middle of the movie's bloat while still retaining important exposition but I'm not sure it quite succeeds). There's also just a few instances where the re-editing is apparent due to some lapses in editing grammar -- a number of characters are shown for the first time without any proper introduction, not given a name nor even a character establishing shot. Valkyrie in particular appears first as part of a group shot where normally she would be at least visually shown to stand apart from her subjects. Granted, not necessarily an easy thing to accomplish given the mess of the original film, but some kind of visual orientation is needed when introducing key characters in a text.

Nitpicks aside, this is such a vast improvement over the original version, and with some revisions, this could easily be a seamless replacement for the Thor 4 we got. The potential is there to be one of the most moving entries in the MCU -- if only Taika Waititi had had tremault's good judgment for emotional story beats on hand in the editing room!
Owner's reply March 05, 2023

Thanks for the great feedback! editing grammar is a new term for me but I totally understand what you're saying. I hadn't considered the introduction of valkyrie and I should have. I'm not certain where such an introduction could have fitted in though. perhaps a shot in the intro flashback... definitely something I'll keep in mind for future projects!

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