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9.8
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I usually don't like this sort of merging of two separate stories into one feature. However, using David as the beacon and ignoring a lot of the unneeded material from both sources has surprisingly created an exciting story with a complex narrative that is still not too hard to follow and make sense out of it.
I really like the visual editing in this one. It keeps the pacing consistent enough and is done very creatively. And though the extensive cutting, there was still some development of characters present within the final product. David obviously is the focus. The short clips that preceded to the release of Alien: Covenant also helped and were wisely placed within the story.

The quality is top notch and the visual and audio editing is seamless.

The infection sequence inter-cutting between the two films is well done but not easy to follow.
Keeping track of two different crews, each with its own members, relations and journey can be quite exhausting.

The fanedit is great and the best edit of the month reward is well deserved. Good job Job!!

EDIT: watched it again and loved it even more. My enjoyment score is up to the 10
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This edit takes two (at best) mediocre prequel films and constructs one new narrative out of them in a way that creates a terrific film, in my opinion. The editing was seamless and the choices made brought out David's motivations and the overall themes much better than the two separate films did. Some other reviewers seemed confused by the time jumps, but I found that they were utilized quite well. I never found myself confused by anything, nor was any of it jarring. I didn't notice anything that would have required me to have seen the original films.

I loved how you used the conversation between Weyland and David in the piano room. I also loved that you had Vickers die before she could even get off the ship, completely avoiding the infamous "running in a straight line" bit altogether.

One piece of constructive criticism, though...While I thought the ending music choice was fine, if this were my edit, I would have the end song David listens to be a little more haunting...using "Take Me Home, Country Roads" by John Denver. As I said, this by no means detracts from the edit, but it would have shown that despite his actions, David still has complex feelings about Shaw.

I actually think this will replace both films for me. Great work!
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8.4
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For me Paradise did not quite work - Don't get me wrong it had some wonderful moments but as a whole the narrative was a bit hard to follow. It only worked to a point because i had seen the theatrical versions and could fill in the gaps, so in turn was able to follow the story.
To start with the Weyland / David chat was fantastic. A mixture of the ted talk and the white room conversation was great. The scene of the Prometheus crew and Covenant crew trying to get back to the ships after being infected was wonderful visual and audio editing but again unless you knew the theatrical versions would be hard pressed to follow what was going on...as a visual and audio experiment worked really well....good skills. Adding the deleted scene of Shaw putting David back together was great....but for me it would have worked better as an ending to Prometheus.
One of the highlights for me was the cutting of the Xenomorph and Daniels surfing and Tarzan swinging as the Covenant crew try to escape the planet also the Shower scene is so much better. The use of The Beatles "Want You So Bad" was a stoke of greatness. The audio editing was top notch....I will be seeking permission from Jobwillins to use this scene in any future edit i may get around to :). Though the use of the Beatles track was great in that scene i didnt quite enjoy the other two Beatles tracks when they were used. The ending was brilliant - the use of some of the audio from the Blurays extra scene was truly great..
So overall - i think Prometheus and Covenant work better as separate films but JobWillins has truly done some remarkable work and has got my mind into gear thinking about my own edits of the two films. Prometheus should maybe start with the white room scene and end with Shaw putting David back together from the Covenant Bluray extras. Covenant should open with David arriving at Paradise and infecting the citizens..and the ending should be the same as JobWilins has done in this edit... but for me with a different song. Golden Slumbers / Carry the Weight are such immense and emotional tunes i just kept thinking of Paul and John and got taken out of the film...i think a nice classical piece or even keeping the Wagner tune intact would work better

Jobwillins well done....your skills are top notch.

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9.6
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The technical mastery of this edit is impressive, whether in terms of audio, video or narration processing. The idea to combine these two flawed movies is a very efficient way to get rid of their worst parts and focus on what works. The drawback is the pace that sometimes feels a little rushed (I had this feeling mainly in the first half). I guess it can be challenging for a newcomer to follow all the back and forth between timelines, but I only got slightly confused one time during the infection sequence.

I appreciated how cleverly the plots and themes intertwined, like the choice of the genocide punchline. Also, the alien in shower scene was really really cool. Like others, I wish the Wagner theme was kept in the final scene, but the mash-up of Beatles and David's monologue worked very well anyhow.

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9.8
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! I got my whole family to watch with me (after lots of bargaining) and even they loved it! And they all hated the original two movies! My mom particularly was not looking forward to it, not just because of her dislike of the original movies, but because she's not exactly what I would call a "believer" in fan edits. She's usually the one to say "Why don't we just watch the original?" but even she loved it!

The way that the narratives of the past and future interweave and reveal information is brilliant! Specifically how, from what we can see in the past, we can tell that, by the time the Covenant crew lands on the planet 10 years later, there’s something going on but we don’t know exactly what yet so we’re practically just as in the dark as the Covenant crew. But that's not to say that you can solve the problems of Alien: Covenant by simply not watching Prometheus because then you wouldn't know what was going on with David and such. So it reveals just enough at just the right times to be ominous without telegraphing exactly what's going to happen to the Covenant crew. It avoids the pitfalls that Covenant had of having them looking like idiots by visiting the planet in a “shouting at the screen while watching a horror movie sequel as the dumb one goes into the basement with the chainsaws” sort of way ya know?

Another great thing this edit does is instead of having certain members of the crew feel like weak attempts to create a new Ripley in the way that they're oh-so badass and strong, only for them to get killed off at the end, it makes them feel like humans in Greek God myths, where they are trying futilely to survive against the whims of a heartless God, and in this story that God is David, And having the story focus on him not only makes the narrative more interesting and fulfilling, but also plays up the themes of man vs. nature and man vs. God.

My mom had a little trouble telling what time period was which which might be able to be fixed with a time and date appearing on screen but really that's my only big complaint. Other than that there was one scene where a scream cut out second too early and the music removal in the final scene could have been a little bit better but that's just a limitation from the technology of removing background music, which I'm sure all us fan editors can relate to.

And now that I've finished watching this, I can go on to Alien and Aliens and then onto Job's other alien edit Ripley! So excited!

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