Morrigan Presents Batman Forever

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Original Release Date:
1995
Original Running Time:
120
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130
Time Cut:
2
Time Added:
11
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Brief Synopsis:
Inspired by what we know of earlier versions of the film, with my own preferences injected, this is an extended and resequenced version of Batman Forever.
Intention:
It's pretty common knowledge that Batman Forever went through a major change in timeline quite late into production. The sequence of events in the final film was completely changed to accommodate studio requests, and Joel Schumacher was required to cut his 160 minute film down to a more palatable Summer movie length of two hours. As a result, there are parts of the movie that leave threads hanging, and even a few clues in the film as to what might have been. Originally, it was my intention to make as close to this original version of the movie as possible, using what we know of the earlier structure of the movie, and what deleted scenes we have to make it happen. However, as I progressed I decided to follow my own preferences for sequencing and content to make something between that earlier cut and my personal edit.

Importantly, this edit is not an attempt to tone down the elements Schumacher introduced that differentiated it from the earlier Burton films, and it is not an attempt to make a dark, gritty Batman movie - we have enough of those. This project is an attempt to create a fuller and more compelling version of this film that still respects Schumacher's unique vision of the dark knight.
Other Sources:
New score elements are taken from Elliot Goldenthal’s score for Batman Forever, with the sole exception of the Arkham Escape scene which features a small sample of a track from Goldenthal’s score for Batman & Robin.

A single short shot from the fan film Riddler's Retaliation was used in one scene.
Special Thanks:
Special thanks go to all my previewers - Zarius, heathen3017, and Malthus. I very much appreciate all of your feedback and assistance in dialling in this edit. Special thanks also to Jrzag42 for the Academy feedback and approval. Extra special thanks go to Malthus for the technical expertise and advice to complete certain elements, not to mention a level of encouragement to keep me going. Thank you all!
Release Information:
Digital
Editing Details:
Much of the film has been reordered to further resemble the original shooting script, although personal choices have been made where I wanted to keep consistency, or where moving a scene didn’t serve any narrative purpose. Similarly, some but not all of the available deleted scenes have been upscaled and restored to the film to enhance the reordered narrative. In addition to the visual enhancements, the deleted scenes also have new sound mixes built with new score and SFX. There is a noticeable, but hopefully not too distracting, change is visual quality on the deleted scenes, as they are rebuilt from old standard definitions NTSC transfers, but I am happy enough with the result - and will always be ready to revise this edit if I can improve their quality any further.
Cuts and Additions:
- Opening credits removed.
- Deleted scene of Two-Face’s Arkham Escape inserted as new opening with new score and SFX.
- Introduction of Nygma and Bruce’s Waynetech tour moved before titles.
- Opening title inserted.
- Batman suits up and Two-Face’s bank robbery.
- Nygma’s testing and Stickley’s murder, including aftermath with Bruce and first two riddles.
- Bruce visits Chase and takes her to the circus, Two-Face crashes the circus and murders the Graysons, Dick moves in with Bruce.
- Chase calls Batman to rooftop, one small line of dialogue changed to remove reference to old scene order.
- Batmobile/Two-Face car chase, birth of the Riddler, and Riddler and Two-Face team-up moved to after Chase/Batman rooftop scene.
- Beauty and the Bat deleted scene inserted into Riddler and Two-Face’s crime wave montage with new score and SFX. Batmobile monitor has been replaced to improve continuity of the scene, and two shots of the Riddler added for the same reason.
- Alfred and Bruce discussing Bruce’s identity in the Batcave cut to make way for deleted scene.
- Two-Face and Riddler discover Batman’s identity moved to after Bruce/Dick/Alfred Batcave scene.
- Anti-Batman newscast and Alfred and Bruce discussing Batman retiring deleted scene inserted with new score and SFX.
- Riddler’s question mark Batsignal moved to after Bruce wakes after being shot.
- Secret of the Batcave/Red Book deleted scene inserted with new score and SFX.
- Chase awakens in Riddler’s lair moved to after secret of the Batcave scene.

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I really, really like "Batman Forever. " This fan-edit makes better, even better,

Not every iteration of Batman needs to be grimdark, and while this version it takes some liberties with the source material, it works. It’s an original take on Batman with some glorious lunacy, props, lines and scenes. It should never be conflated with the horrible "Batman and Robin." I would take it any day over recent studio junk like "Wonder Woman 1984," the paint-by-numbers blandness of "Captain Marvel," "X-Men: Apocalypse" or "Iron Man 2” or awful TV shows like “Batwoman” or the live-action Teen Titans.

The problem with “Batman Forever," though, is it got mangled by the studio leading to some dangling threads and odd transitions. It still works, but it’s a bit off-kilter.

This edit is not an effort, like the "Red Book" fan-edit, to change the tone. What it really does is complete the story effectively, while -- in my view, wisely -- retaining the overall visuals and over-the-top feel and dialogue of the original. I don't think the original can or should be changed into something more grimdark or Burtony, and this is probably the closest we can get to the fabled Directors Cut.

There are, of course, some issues with the quality of the additional scenes, which might be more apparent in a 1080 version, and it may just be me, but some sound edits seemed a bit jarring in the later part.

But all in all, my new go-to version.

Nice!

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Batman Forever restored to it's proper glory by an editor with considerable skill.
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A really smart edit, that takes the best from a very underrated movie and gives it new life by streamlining as much as possible its most complicated parts.
Morrigan REALLY took his time to polish every technical detail as much as possible and it's a joy to see the dark knight take flight again in this new edit.
I really recommend it, specially because of the very underrated performances by most of the cast, that really get a new chance to shine.

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A great improvement over the Theatrical Cut, but needs refinement and some trimming. Not trimming as drastic as Scaperat's Red Book Edition, imho, but more than the 2 minutes cut here.
The new narrative is indeed superior to the TC. The deleted scenes shed more light on Bruce's past and his journey to understand his repressed memories, and the reordered (as well as the deleted) scenes feel as if they truly belong in that order.
As I mentioned above, i wish a few more trims were made to this edit, just to remove the bits that don't really belong here. First and foremost - the Bat Butt shot. I would also trim some of the security guard's whines in the vault, as well as the close-up on Batman's lips before and during the bad joke about the sandwich.
I took off a few points because of a jarring transition at 1:40:38 - it sounded like a forced and rushed mute, Perhaps it can be softened?
Another issue, which has to do with the quality of the source materials, has to do with the drastic drop in quality with the deleted scenes. Maybe some technological advancement will allow AI to improve the quality of deleted scenes by sampling enough information from the rest of the film? I wish. But I digress.
All in all, this edit elevates an okay entry in the Batman franchise into a definite watch.

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