I will say the big thing that bugged me with the fanedit though was how some of the cuts with Lois kind of made her a walking plothole. For no reason she seems to volunteer and is allowed to join Clark on the ship as a prisoner, and after the Smallville battle, she shows up at Clark's house, even though she doesn't know the truth about him. I think perhaps you should have left her knowing Clark's identity in.
A nitpick I also had is some scenes there seems to be some kind of screeching noise in the video, which should be fixed. The only other nitpciks with the film is in the intro, when the Superman symbol is shown, the water splashing is heard, and I felt it should have started with no water splashing and only started water splashing half way through. I know what sounds a bit silly to nitpick on, but it just bugged me.
Still, a good fanedit of Man of Steel.
Thanks a lot for your review. I appreciate it because it was a project I put a lot of effort, especially being the first Fan Edit I worked on. Let me tell you, I found it has a little bit more of sense showing Lois being volunteer to join Clark in Zod's ship instead of that stupid thing of "we want this woman in the ship because we need something to make the story go forward". If you think about it, there is no reason at all to make Lois go to Zod's ship, it's not like Lois had some vital information or whatever, nobody questions her and nobody talks to Lois in the scene aboard Zod's ship. In the way I put it, it is a little bit more espontaneous.
Oh and about Lois going to Clark's house, after so much disaster and a car being thrown to the farm, you could assume she heard all the mess and went right to the place where it was happening.
The waves sound at the beginning was something I wanted to let because it was the first thing I imagined when i came up with the idea of making the Fan Edit and begin the film, and it was something I had in mind way before this movie was released on DVD.
However, I can understand the sound glitches. It's a problem I haven't fixed yet. I don't know why, whenever I put movies on my Sony Vegas, the glitches appear. I don't know how to fix it yet, but still searching. Thanks a lot for your review, it means a lot :D
i have enjoyed all the fight scenes where superman doesnt seem to destroy building just for the sake of fighting especially the last battle with Zod.
The idea of superman taking a suit when he was needed was awesome.
The scene that i missed the most was the I WILL FIND HIM scene, which was removed, that scene was the define moment of Zod, seeing him self as hero and who had a purpose for his planet, in this edit, you dont get the feeling for him. i wish you would put it when clark ask " how did you make your way to earth"
Another scene was about flashback of krypton with the voice of jor el over it, it was kind of disturbing a little bit, it was like i didnt know where to focus, either his voice or the ongoing scene, but may be it was disturbing because i have seen the theatrical version.
About the smallville battle, i know the purpose was to make superman less destructive, but some scene like superman punching the kryptonian to the train explosion was to be left as it was, since later on we dont know where the train come from when thrown towards superman.
And lastly about jor el conscious, he was not suppose to have any memory after the key was put on the ship but thats just me picking too much.
Overall the edit was great.
FYI i have replaced all my theatrical versions of the amazing spiderman with yours
Except for the scene when Lois walks into the Kryptonian ship like she owns the place with little reason whatsoever, there are no hiccups I noticed. The storyline feels just right and as a real "movie" - in this state, I can recommend to everyone no matter how much of a Superman or Comic geek you are.
Actually, I'm surprised how much I like it as I felt the theatrical cut was just a confusing succession of explosions, more explosions and then even bigger explosions. While this might generate some enjoyment on the big screen, a movie needs more than dramatic music and "boom!" to be satisfying for a home release.
My only nitpick (yes, again) is the encoding quality. Other than the usual over-encoding of fanedits, preserving every pixel of grain, this one is flawed in the other direction. For a movie mainly consisting of action, a constant 2k encoding bitrate too low and there is noticeable blocking in fast movement. Come on people, it's not that hard to do - set x264 preset to "slower" and a rate factor around 20, and these problem would be gone for good :-)
I don't know if I've ever been more disappointed by a movie.
This edit doesn't seem that different from the theatrical release, but at the same time, it flows so much better. The Lois and Clark scenes feel way more cohesive. And as much as I liked Kevin Cosner, the way this edit handles certain events that happen to him is MUCH better. The 14 hour long fight sequence between Zod and Sup is no longer exhausting and boring. I'm not sure how the theatrical version made it boring originally or how this edit managed to make it actually feel interesting and add a sense of danger to the battle, but it did. Apparently multiple subplots were nixed because it seems so much more focused. I wish Snider could see and learn from this because Superman v Batman looks unfixable to me. When he tries to jam so much into a movie it just ends up feeling like a rushed mess. Bravo on this edit of Man of Steel. It actually feels like a Superman movie. I still hate the tone shift going from Lazer Eye Zod to snarky drone-killer Superman but there literally is no way to fix this.
Technicaly I was amazed. Everything seems to flow very smoothly. Usually in edits are a few hard cuts but not noticeable here.
It has been a long time since I saw Man of Steel. And I didn't go into this with high expectations. But this movie is transformed the movie experience for me. It is much more engaging theatrical version. I truly look forward to watching this again.
As I watched samspider3's edit through Clark's eyes, I noticed though the story telling may be tightened up, as big as a fan I am of Man of Steel (I do really like, I always like new takes on established characters, and it fits really well with Batman v Superman especially if you want the fan edit version told from Clark's point of view) the emotional investment in Clark is still not the nice likable character Christopher Reeve's interpretation of the character. This is perhaps often the biggest complaint of this movie itself (and has nothing to do with samspider3's cut, which is a very good version, thanks samspider3!) that fans of had. And as I said before, I like this interpretation of the Superman story as Nolan and Snyder seek to answer the question what would really happen if the world discovered a being who could do these miraculous feats? Growing up with Reeve's and Welling's Smallville versions of Superman, we see not an alien, but a being of absolute good (and almost too good-natured) who always smiles and everyone is amazed by first and foremost that character's self-sacrificing nature. He is a reminder he is part of the human race and does it gladly and freely. The fan leaves the original 1970's movie inspired, now believing him/herself can and should be ready to prepare for the good of humanity. In Snyder's take, that self-sacrifice is subtle and subservient to the idea Clark must also keep himself hidden as his alien nature itself (which is not the focus in other interpretations as Clark looks human and as such no one cares since he is basically human) may alarm the world. Snyder's take is more about answering the question would the world really be ready to accept the truth if we knew an alien was among us? In a sense through the original movie, we as the audience are the world, we are introduced to Clark just as he is about to appear as Superman (in the original movie) and must trust him even if we have not quite yet developed that trust in the character in spite of the marvelous feats we have seen him perform in the flashbacks of his childhood. We are forced to trust him as opposed to knowing we can trust him because we know how he grows up. Watching Smallville and the Reeve's Superman movies, we don't see an alien, we see a human amazed at the wonder of his own abilities, we see it not through his eyes but our own as we would like to believe we would react the same way given those exact same abilities. We see glimpses of this throughout Snyder's interpretation, especially when Clark discovers he can fly immediately donning on his Superman suit, but as I said before, we do not experience this wonder and develop a trust throughout as we are almost immediately expected to trust him from the start. It almost begs the viewer to answer the question: just because someone can do this, should I trust him? It makes me wonder if Snyder is telling me yes, I see it, therefore I have to (without knowing Clark's background and good-natured heart), I must trust him because of his abilities and strength, not because I know he is a good person.
As I watched this really good cut, I noticed one of the biggest cuts was Lois's detective work in discovering Clark's identity. Knowing samspider3's cut is intended to view the experience through Clark's eyes, it is understandable that he would want to cut out Lois's journey as it really is the same story twice. And as I watched it, it occurred to me there should be a Lois cut! And not because we should write it from each character's perspective (heavens no!), but because you could actually start the movie with Lois going to the ship and through her detective work, go back into time discovering who this might be (and with her, as she visits each place as she did in the original movie, we would live through the flashbacks of Clark). We would travel back in time through Lois to essentially Clark's arrival on Earth and answer the question in a better fashion: why haven't we heard of this Superman before if it was apparently so easy for Lois to find him? The answer is, there is so much hog wash in the news, what are we to believe and until you actually see it, would you really investigate it? So, starting the movie from Lois's unique perspective as being the only reporter on site, she has key evidence that an alien being actually exists, and will discover these wondrous feats he has accomplished on his time on Earth. We might actually trust in Clark more in this case, especially, as I noted above, the audience is being asked to trust him without going through his shoes in the same fashion and enjoyment and amazement as we were asked with Reeve's Superman.
From Lois's perspective, you would essentially go from one mystery into another and not have them overlap. In essence, Act 1: Who is this mystery guy from the world's perspective? to Act 2: Now we know he is a kid from Smallville, an alien, and he has been asking the same question and now he is getting his answer and we get to discover it with him. You could tell the story backwards until she meets Clark in Smallville, then we are in the present and resume with the rest of the story. We could have them meet at Jonathan's grave, then Clark go visit his mother to tell her the good news about discovering his people, stick around the farm that evening to celebrate and long enough to receive Zod's worldwide TV message, and then go back to the ship and have Jor-El tell him more about his past making the message of Zod and his coup even more sinister to samspider3's cut of going to the pastor to ask for advance (flashback to death of adoptive father) and finally CHOOSING to don the suit of hope/Superman as an earned or chosen act instead of just simply a thing he does as presented in the original movie. I just found out that these fanedits exist and sadly I don't have the time to invest into making these cuts, but it would be awesome if someone could! Thanks samspider3, I love these fanedits, they really make you think about storytelling and I enjoyed every minute of it!