Captain Marvel: Where's the Love

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Original Release Date:
2019
Original Running Time:
124
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125
Time Cut:
7
Time Added:
8
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Brief Synopsis:
Carol was disliked by many including me, a girl. Didn't feel like a positive feminist role model. I wanted to see something I could relate to better. so....
This is a story all about how, an amnesiac Kree Starforce operative with mysterious powers, discovers her true past and slowly learns that her emotions can set her free from the shackles of those she once considered allies.
Intention:
To make Carol more likeable. A lot of people had an issue with anti-male sentiments in this movie. Some people didn't notice it, but for other people it stuck out like a sore thumb. My intent is to apply ointment to the sore thumb of this movie. To give it some love and allow love to reflect back out. Sorry about the silly analogy, but I am a girl and I didn't feel empowered by this movie. I feel much more empowered by strength through love, and so I tried to take the movie in this direction. Emphasis on emotions and friendships.

I also received a request to remove Fury losing his eye due to a scratch. He still gets scratched, but I made it a point to show his eye healed afterwards in a mid credits scene. Since Goose is in Fury's office, it is still possible he gets scratched by Goose again so if people like that part then it can still have happened after the events of this movie.
Other Sources:
cat clip - https://www.pexels.com/video/a-ginger-cat-on-the-floor-6853961/
Music - "Violet" by Hole
static noise - https://soundbible.com/1564-Strange-Static.html
Special Thanks:
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Malthus
Artan42
mnkykungfu
lapis molari
DigModiFicaTion
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Release Information:
Digital
Special Features
1080p, H264 and H265 available
Stereo AAC audio
English Subtitles
Editing Details:
Removing music is hard. Don't do it unless you really have to!!
When cutting two shots together, motion is important. I felt this was important when removing Carols stupid scream. If I had not got the movement right, that cut would have been very jarring.
Cuts and Additions:
Colour graded entire movie to reflect Carol's emotional state.
Added visual effects to reflect when Carol's implant was subduing her powers.
Switched Carol and Yon Rogg door scene, to a deleted scene of Yon Rogg teaching children.
Trimmed train scene due to redundancies in the dialogue caused by teaching scene.
Removed Carol needlessly insulting her Kree colleague.
Inserted deleted scene showing more upbeat and friendly interaction with Kree colleagues.
On skrull ship, during memory search, cut some parts where she was obviously being 'put down by men'.
Removed Carol screaming at skrull. it was stupid.
Removed 'cockpit' comment on skrull monitor.
Turned 'Ma Bell' into radio static and distortion.
Removed Carol telling Fury "you finally asked a relevant question"
Removed Biker "how about a smile?"
Removed Fury and 'Keller' looking under autopsy blanket.
Removed "noble warrior heroes", the way she said it was too smarmy.
Removed Carols smirk and "huh" just before the "welcome wagon" in the pegasus facility.
Inserted flashback to memories of Goose when they meet up with Goose in the corridor.
Inserted a few relevant flashbacks when Carol is studying the files on the crash.
Replaced Yon Rogg/Ronan scene with deleted scene of 'Keller' talking about tracking the plane.
Re-inserted Yon Rogg/Ronan scene midway through the scene in Marie's house so as to make it feel like she was there longer.
Inserted a shot of 'Goose' at the cut back to Marie's house. (from stock footage)
Inserted some warm memory flashbacks when Carol is looking at old photos....
Inserted an unpleasant 'memory' of the 'Skrull' shooting Lawson, just before there is a knock on the door, to introduce more tension.
Inserted scene of Yonn Rogg talking to supreme intelligence to show just how intimidating the supreme intelligence can be.
Removed Carol saying " reached blah blah altitude" and inserted a reminder of her and Maria's relationship.
Changed scene of scanning goose and fury, so it says "human" instead of "human male".
Reduced volume of "come as you are". it just seemed way too loud to me.
Removed memory of bike crash and baseball. these seem to serve only to suggest "she's clumsy because she's a girl". extended the gocart clip just to pad this out for the dialogue.
Completely replaced montage of "Carol standing up because she's realised she's allowed to" with a montage of "Carol reflects on her friendships and realises her emotions give her strength".
Removed "just a girl" and replaced it with "violet" by 'Hole'.
Removed horrible effects shot of carol falling towards the ground. It was just ugly XD
Removed Carol's line to Yon Rogg "I have nothing to prove to you".
Removed Talos' reaction to Goose scratching Fury's eye. Now it is not indicated that This is the cause of his lost eye.
Removed Maria's line asking Fury about his eye.
Removed final scene to reinsert it as a mid credits scene
Mid credits scene features part of a deleted scene of Fury walking to his office with both eyes intact.
Obligatory edit of the end credits.
Cover art by tremault (DOWNLOAD HERE)
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Overview:

The movie establishes very early that the Skrull expansion threatens the universe, and that the Kree are all that stand in their way. The MCU often makes the mistake of presenting these world-ending stakes at scale, which make them hard to relate to. In Captain Marvel, this is expressed through Vers’ personal grief and what the Skrull have taken from her. This is an important point for a movie with a central theme of individualism versus nationalism.

For this to work, the audience needs to find the protagonist relatable. In the original release, Vers comes across as arrogant and stand-offish. While this might have been by design for Vers to put a wall up between herself and her Kree allies, it also put a wall up for the audience. The edit creates a more sympathetic character, allowing Brie Larson’s facial expressions to carry more of the subtext. The edited down humour shows Vers as brash, but not cold and insulting. The addition of the teaching scene early on also helps create a more caring mentor dynamic between Yon-Rogg and Vers.

In the original realise, we are told men -and specifically men- are what stands in the protagonist’s way. What I see in this edit is that controlling forces and the lack of agency are the enemy. While with the Kree, Vers Is told to let go of her emotions and unknown past, and to submit to the collective. By the end of the movie, Carol has reconciled her individuality, and adapted within that concept the Kree motto of putting others before herself. That’s a broader, more accessible arc that doesn’t alienate anyone nor take away from what the original release tried to achieve.

Through the edit, Captain Marvel tells a story less focussed on outside influences telling Carol she is a failure, and more on her internal conflict of failure, determination, and success.


What I liked:

Only 45ish seconds were shaved from the original before the Kree arrival on Torfa, yet I found the edit better paced with better exposition.

Adding the scene with Yon-Rogg teaching the children is a good choice. In addition to what I previously said about the scene, it also added some more sympathetic humour from Vers as we do tease each other in a more direct way when appealing to a childhood audience.

The scene of Yon-Rogg talking with the Supreme Intelligence was a good addition and adds more weight to his later line about going back to Hala empty-handed.

There were some very clever editing choices during the Skrull memory search scene.

I had no particular problem with the original “biker” scene or its extended version, but throughout the movie we don’t see Vers/Carol seek any personal satisfaction in causing harm. For someone who sees herself as a Noble Warrior Hero, this was out of character. The edit better expressed her need in that moment. There’s a memorable scene in the pilot of Alias that plays out in a similar way.

The edits to remove some of Vers/Carol’s coldness result in better payoffs for when she’s deliberately untrusting or arrogant. Such as when Carol is talking to Maria’s neighbour, or during the fight between Carol and her former Kree allies in the finale.

Replacing the “Carol stands up for five minutes” scene with one of Carol experiencing her recent memories with Fury, Maria and Monica was one of the best parts of this edit. It showed that while Carol doesn’t have any old memories, her few days among humanity let Carol know herself more than six years with the Kree did.


What I might do differently:

Some of the scenes on Torfa were quite dark and I found it difficult to follow each character as their faces were shadowed. I compared the Torfa scene side-by-side, and the original release was already pushing the limit on lighting. I think some of the colour-correction during flashbacks were a little distracting, also.

The small flashback we get on meeting Goose near the records room was probably unnecessary. It doesn’t do any harm, but it might be a case of needing to trust your audience more.

While I agree that Just a girl by No Doubt was a little on the nose, it left the editor an interesting problem. Do you replace it with 90s rock? Grunge? Maybe a girl-power jam that could leave you with the same original problem? The editor went with Violet by Hole which is a solid choice. I think the only options were to find a rock song to match the beats of that fight (like Rebel Girl by Bikini Kill), or lean so hard into the kitchy contrast and go with an extremely era pop song (something like Wannabe by the Spice Girls). I can imagine Marvel tried to go with the second option with their original choice.

Some of the cuts were rough which isn’t a criticism of the editor as they can only work with the material given. In particular, the cutaway after Goose scratches Fury’s eye is jarring. Considering the effort the movie went to create red herrings for how Fury loses his eye, leaving the line “It’s just a scratch” and editing out Talos’ reaction would have played equally as well.


Final thoughts:

This edit shows us the movie we could have gotten. A more widely relatable lead, while still representing the original message that was likely targeted towards young women. Tremault should be very proud of this effort as it shows what a love of the source material and more ruthless editing can accomplish.

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Owner's reply January 22, 2023

Thank you, that was very thought provoking. I like some of your suggestions, they are pretty good ideas. I also really appreciate the wider analysis of the themes.

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Ok I have to say this is definitely the best version of this movie. I never thought it was possible, but I truly enjoyed it! I disliked the TC version, since it focused too much on making her strong and cool as a sock in a refrigerator. But that made her unrealistic, unrelatable and even at times unlikable. I was really hoping that I would like this edit since I could not stomach the original version and never could finish watching it, since I just simply could not enjoy it.

The insertion of the deleted scenes were brilliantly picked. The audio / video is great and they blend perfectly. This version removes / changes all the right spots, which now makes me forget all about the massive amount of hate the original version got, which is a huge compliment since it means I immersed in the movie.

Oh and I forgot about funny. Now that the bad jokes were cut, the good ones actually can be and are funny :)

I recommend this edit to everyone who previously - like me - disliked the TC or actually wanted to watch the film, but instead listened to the critics (of which many were not wrong) and did not even want to try afterwards. This movie proves also a point: The problem of the original version was not that the hero was a woman, but that the movie (at least the cut) was bad. And that's it. Anything beyond that is just frustration about unmet expectations in my opinion There was so much hype around this movie at its release and the final TC just did not feel right and dissapointed many fans.

But NOW this feels like a really good superhero movie that is entertaining and even exciting to watch.

Focusing on the emotions and friendships in this movie made me care about the characters and made them more real since - duh - humans are emotional beings and we do not want to watch a long movie if it does not make us care or trigger emotions that we like.

That's the magic that I love: Watching a fan edit (fan fix rather!) which makes a good movie (good cut) out of a bad one (bad cut)!

Many thanks and much applause!


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This review is from the outdated version where the deleted scenes weren't in HD which is okay since this movie isn't the most visually impressive entry of the MCU in the first place LOL! This is a very good fanedit so that I would not only watch this in place of the original but actually watch it between Avengers Infinity Wars and Endgame instead of skipping it like what most people like me did because it was forced in there to make you watch it just for the post-credit scene. But Tremault wisely edited out the scene and made this movie more of a prequel where you can watch it without having to see all or any of the of the MCU movies since this is supposed to be an origin story of the avengers and filmmaking wise is the most basic looking superhero movie by Marvel standards making it a must-see for beginners. The biggest improvement that fixes this movie is toning down Captain Marvel's Misandry towards men and fleshing her out to be a sympathetic heroine who wants to find the truth about her war and her identity while doing the right thing. As an OP character similar to Superman and Wonder Woman (her superior DCU counterpart and rival) it is hard to make them relatable and likeable characters no matter what gender they are unless you make them a blank slate for the viewer to identify with or relate to them with a universal story/character arc that humanizes them. Such as Captain Marvel being forced to let go of her emotions/womanhood to become a cold-blooded weapon but instead turned her weakness into a strength in the form of empathy(femininity) to become a better person and a hero too for example.
Good job on this Fan Edit Tremault looking forward to your future projects!

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The narrative structure for this edit is much greater than the TC version, and the new high-quality replacements for the deleted scenes they put in improve the edit a lot more too. The song choice fits better and there are no cuts that would contradict later/future movies/shows. I would recommend this cut for future rewatches and as a shelf replacer for the original film.

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I am always curious when a new marvel fan fix comes out. especially for those criticized movies. I tend to like all of them but some parts are so cringe or on the nose or generic that they are easelly forgotten.
The editing is great and the narrative works well! Less cringy and more enjoyable than the original. Of course the AV quality is hard to get perfect but still great!
My go to version!

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