Captain Marvel: Where's the Love

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An excellent edit of Captain Marvel that streamlines the movie tonally. This edit removes any references to sexism that Carol Danvers faces, and tones down some of her meaner moments. While I think there is a really interesting story that Marvel could have told about Carol coming to terms with being from a planet that treats her gender poorly, the sexism is never actually addressed as part of the story and just ends up feeling tacked on. Removing it helps bring the focus back to Carol and her quest for her memories. Same with the underlying girl power motif. This could have been fun if Disney had leaned into it, but instead it's random appearances feel out of place in a movie that is clearly about something else.

The editor made a couple other fantastic changes. Flashbacks are now desaturated. This distinct visual look actually helped make the flashback sequences play better giving them a more mysterious quality. I was surprised by just how effective this trick was.

The other massive change is to the opening structure of the movie. Jude Law is given a new introduction, and most of the Kree home world scenes have been played with. This is the first time I believed Carol was an accepted part of that world, and I found myself more engaged with the movie than I ever have been before. It is a huge improvement in every way, making her relationship with Jude Law much more engaging.

Unfortunately, the second half of the movie still suffers from some script problems that are outside of the editor's control. Carol still has a limited emotional arc, and surprisingly cares very little that for her old friends the Kree or that they lied. There is a lovely change to Carol reconnecting with her memories that the editor added. Using some of the flashback footage we can see Carol start to connect with her memories far better than in the theatrical version. I really liked this change, and actually thought the editor could have pushed it a little further. It goes a long way towards fixing an area of the movie that really lacks character development. Unfortunately, what the back half of the film needs is additional footage that simply doesn't exist. But the editor did a fantastic job with limited resources here.

All that said, this is far superior to the theatrical version. The edits are smooth and unnoticeable. There were one or two moments where I thought the dialogue was a bit loud, but otherwise this was a very sound edit from a technical perspective.

If you want some Captain Marvel in your life, this is the version to watch.

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Captain Marvel was a film I only watched once in theaters. I thought it was fine typical Marvel blockbuster filmmaking and the amnesia storyline made Carol the least interesting character of the bunch, a cypher for the audience, in a mystery that's a little obvious.

This fanedit attempts to restore some of Carol’s search for humanity, and instead of the film being about rising up against men, it’s about discovering her human connections, her adopted family (her friend and “niece”, her mentor in the original Captain Marvell, and comrade in Nick Fury).

Carol is more human here and less of a cypher than before. The amnesia story is still there but she’s not nearly as stand-offish as she was in the theatrical cut. Instead the relationship between her and the rest of her colleagues and her mentor feels like a crew that work together. A crew that cares about each other. Even the seeds of distrust between her and Fury are slowly melted to give way to what's most important about Captain Marvel her humanity.

Not only that the fanedit connects to the wider story of the Kree and Skrulls and the humanitarian element in line there. Carol throughout the film is a noble warrior and humanitarian and, even when questioning who to trust, she never loses these characteristics.

With a few little tweaks, cuts, utilizing deleted scenes, and some nice color corrections, the film comes out feeling stronger thematically overall as it ties all the lost memories to people rather than a “girl power” facade. Instead of the most emotional moment being one associated with Maria Rambeau, it’s associated with Carol remembering her humanity (throughout her short time reconnecting on earth) and it’s immensely powerful.

While this is still one of the weaker Marvel films, it's a vast improvement over the original film

Film Rating: 2.5
Fanedit Rating: 3

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Finally getting around to reviewing this. I caught an early version a while back and this has been immensely improved with the audio quality. I really disliked this movie the first time I watched it and I left it out whenever I wanted to watch Marvel movies again. Tremault did an amazing job of making this movie enjoyable! I was actually invested in the movie instead of wanting to go on my phone.

I always praise edits of Marvel movies that trim down the over the top humor and it's done perfectly here. The serious moments have their time, and the better humor gets to breath and land.

Pacing of the movie for the most part is great. Everything up until we get to Earth flows so nicely. I think the Earth scenes could have been trimmed some as it still slows when we are there, but I'm not sure what could be trimmed. The end fight feels a lot better when you actually like Carol. The movie starts and ends strongly.

Overall tremendous work, I'm looking forward to watching your Shang Chi and Thor edits!
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Welcome to the Try Not To Get Political when mentioning this movie challenge spectacular!!! With your host me, myself and I. Many lives were accosted during The Great Captain Marvel war of 2019. It is always a good sign when the fanbase is divided/alienated, especially when some just wanted to get to Endgame. Brie Larson CAN ACT (i.e. Scott Pilgrim), despite some moments in this movie. So here is my stance on her politics.... Jude Law is so very handsome and hunky.

Now, where were we? This edit is a triumph of MCU fan editing. It is on par with macmillan's Avengers: Asssembled, Kikanator96's Age of Ultron: De-Whedoned and Bobson Duggnutt's TASM2/Homecoming edits. Captain Marvel as an idea isn't a bad one, the way the do the flashbacks are great rather than exposition dumping. Thank Kang that the editor cut the "cockpit" moment and moments of Vers being unlikeable. The first chunk with all of the cringe cut, made me realize how much I love the sci fi elements in the Kree home world as well as some of the world building.

My problems arise when they get to Earth, to no fault of the editor. I was reminded of the continuity errors in this movie. For example, S.H.I.E.L.D. already has the acronym when they were coming up with it in the first Iron Man movie coupled with the tesseract ending up where it is in this movie. Don't get me started on the Nick Fury eye loss. Spider-Man: Far From Home retconned his eye scar to have claw marks on it. Anyway, with all of the negatives out of the way, I was reminded how great most of the character moments are with all of the condescending moments cut. I found myself routing for Carol Danvers and her journey.

I also was reminded how great Nick Fury was in this movie, aside from a few quibbles. I even don't mind the Skrulls-are-good twist, I can head canon myself in saying that it is not the Skrull race as a whole. Also replacing "Just A Girl" with "Violet" by Hole was the best decision. Is this my go-to version of this? Maybe. I might even give it a few more watches. If it is any consolation, I would absolutely show this to my daughter if she were to turn out just as nerdy as me. Thank you for this edit, you made me find the love for this movie. This should have gotten FEOTM or even FEOTY.

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Owner's reply March 05, 2023

Thank you so much, that is high praise indeed!!! :D

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Overview:

The movie establishes very early that the Skrull expansion threatens the universe, and that the Kree are all that stand in their way. The MCU often makes the mistake of presenting these world-ending stakes at scale, which make them hard to relate to. In Captain Marvel, this is expressed through Vers’ personal grief and what the Skrull have taken from her. This is an important point for a movie with a central theme of individualism versus nationalism.

For this to work, the audience needs to find the protagonist relatable. In the original release, Vers comes across as arrogant and stand-offish. While this might have been by design for Vers to put a wall up between herself and her Kree allies, it also put a wall up for the audience. The edit creates a more sympathetic character, allowing Brie Larson’s facial expressions to carry more of the subtext. The edited down humour shows Vers as brash, but not cold and insulting. The addition of the teaching scene early on also helps create a more caring mentor dynamic between Yon-Rogg and Vers.

In the original realise, we are told men -and specifically men- are what stands in the protagonist’s way. What I see in this edit is that controlling forces and the lack of agency are the enemy. While with the Kree, Vers Is told to let go of her emotions and unknown past, and to submit to the collective. By the end of the movie, Carol has reconciled her individuality, and adapted within that concept the Kree motto of putting others before herself. That’s a broader, more accessible arc that doesn’t alienate anyone nor take away from what the original release tried to achieve.

Through the edit, Captain Marvel tells a story less focussed on outside influences telling Carol she is a failure, and more on her internal conflict of failure, determination, and success.


What I liked:

Only 45ish seconds were shaved from the original before the Kree arrival on Torfa, yet I found the edit better paced with better exposition.

Adding the scene with Yon-Rogg teaching the children is a good choice. In addition to what I previously said about the scene, it also added some more sympathetic humour from Vers as we do tease each other in a more direct way when appealing to a childhood audience.

The scene of Yon-Rogg talking with the Supreme Intelligence was a good addition and adds more weight to his later line about going back to Hala empty-handed.

There were some very clever editing choices during the Skrull memory search scene.

I had no particular problem with the original “biker” scene or its extended version, but throughout the movie we don’t see Vers/Carol seek any personal satisfaction in causing harm. For someone who sees herself as a Noble Warrior Hero, this was out of character. The edit better expressed her need in that moment. There’s a memorable scene in the pilot of Alias that plays out in a similar way.

The edits to remove some of Vers/Carol’s coldness result in better payoffs for when she’s deliberately untrusting or arrogant. Such as when Carol is talking to Maria’s neighbour, or during the fight between Carol and her former Kree allies in the finale.

Replacing the “Carol stands up for five minutes” scene with one of Carol experiencing her recent memories with Fury, Maria and Monica was one of the best parts of this edit. It showed that while Carol doesn’t have any old memories, her few days among humanity let Carol know herself more than six years with the Kree did.


What I might do differently:

Some of the scenes on Torfa were quite dark and I found it difficult to follow each character as their faces were shadowed. I compared the Torfa scene side-by-side, and the original release was already pushing the limit on lighting. I think some of the colour-correction during flashbacks were a little distracting, also.

The small flashback we get on meeting Goose near the records room was probably unnecessary. It doesn’t do any harm, but it might be a case of needing to trust your audience more.

While I agree that Just a girl by No Doubt was a little on the nose, it left the editor an interesting problem. Do you replace it with 90s rock? Grunge? Maybe a girl-power jam that could leave you with the same original problem? The editor went with Violet by Hole which is a solid choice. I think the only options were to find a rock song to match the beats of that fight (like Rebel Girl by Bikini Kill), or lean so hard into the kitchy contrast and go with an extremely era pop song (something like Wannabe by the Spice Girls). I can imagine Marvel tried to go with the second option with their original choice.

Some of the cuts were rough which isn’t a criticism of the editor as they can only work with the material given. In particular, the cutaway after Goose scratches Fury’s eye is jarring. Considering the effort the movie went to create red herrings for how Fury loses his eye, leaving the line “It’s just a scratch” and editing out Talos’ reaction would have played equally as well.


Final thoughts:

This edit shows us the movie we could have gotten. A more widely relatable lead, while still representing the original message that was likely targeted towards young women. Tremault should be very proud of this effort as it shows what a love of the source material and more ruthless editing can accomplish.

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Owner's reply January 22, 2023

Thank you, that was very thought provoking. I like some of your suggestions, they are pretty good ideas. I also really appreciate the wider analysis of the themes.

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