Batman & Robin: Deep Freeze

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The worst superhero movie of all time now has some chill.....
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Original Release Date:
1997
Original Running Time:
125
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Fanedit Running Time:
84
Time Cut:
41
Time Added:
3
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Brief Synopsis:
Batman & Robin DEEP FREEZE doesn't attempt to be as serious as The Batman or as dark as the Nolan trilogy, but something closer to the feel of The Animated Series, just in live form. Mr. Freeze, now a more sympathetic villain, has little to no one-liners, Bane is completely excised and Poison Ivy isn't created by a mad scientist pushing her into a shelf. There is no Elliot Goldenthal Batman theme, but a lot of his music is still included. New opening titles and a small set of end credits have been created (and of course giving Bill Finger the credit he deserves).
Intention:
I happened to catch a little bit of Batman and Robin on TV and as I watched, my editing brain kicked on and I wondered what it would be like if it looked more like a noirish/German expressionist look while also scaling back as much of the cheese as possible. That accompanied with music from the Arkham games has led to the DEEP FREEZE cut, where Mr. Freeze is a more sympathetic victim, Bane doesn't exist, and Batman and Robin bicker less. Also, no dated "sexy sax" music whenever Ivy is on screen.
Other Sources:
-Batman and Robin blu ray
-Batman Forever blu ray
-Batman and Robin expanded score
-Batman Arkham City soundtrack
-Batman Arkham Knight soundtrack
Special Thanks:
DwightFry for helping me bounce ideas around in the early days of this edit prior to the official announcement and for the preview screening!
Release Information:
Digital
Cuts and Additions:
There were A LOT of cuts that totaled 41 minutes. Here is the basic idea:

-Converted the whole movie to black and white
-Added in a shot of the batsignal in the sky from Batman Forever
-New opening credits
-Cut the Schumacher Batman gearing up (including no butt shots)
-Cropped out all opening credits (this was to help mask big cuts from the museum sequence)
-Cut ALL Mr. Freeze "Arnold" one-liners
-Cut goofy cartoon sound effects when Freeze throws a guard into a wall or tosses a guard
-No ice skating heroes
-No rocket ship getaway, air surfing heroes or flying icemen
-Trimmed back all arguments between Bruce and Dick. They still bicker, but it really only happens once Ivy comes into the picture
-No Pamela Isley in South America and NO BANE!
-Mr. Freeze does not lead a chilling sing-a-long and isn't seen turning down his henchwoman's advances
-Cut out Bruce stammering after being asked about getting married. He's asked and immediately asks Julie to give him a hand.
-The first encounter between Bruce and Pamela is cut so that there is no reference to the mad scientist. Now, Bruce mentions he cut funding due to a difference in ideologies and it comes off as that it was due to Pamela's ideologies as she then proceeds to talk about saving mother nature. It worked so beautifully well.
-Mr. Freeze watches his home movies, is feeling remorse for what he is about to do as it cut to him closing his eyes while holding the newspaper about the Wayne diamonds and then back to him watching the movies and saying it's only one more diamond. No henchman interrupting the movie.
-A LOT was done to the gala scenes. NO gorilla suit, NO Bat credit card, The 90's sexy music for Ivy was replaced with Ivy's themes from Goldenthal's score and from the Arkham games.
-Freeze crashes the party and Batman immediately shoots the freeze gun out of his hands with a grapple hook. Freeze DOES NOT swing onto stage, but simple gets there during the ensuing fighting. He is polite to Ivy without asking what her dumb names are (Garden Gal for instance) and then takes the diamonds and leaves. There was a lot of restructuring of this action sequence.
-The chase scene is pretty much the same, but with some changes in the music. Freeze doesn't obnoxiously laugh or say anything after he crashes.
-The movie was heavily restructured from here as we deal with Barbara's antics, Bruce and Julie and Dick trying to catch Barbara.
-Freeze is broken out by Ivy just by her using her methods of getting in, killing the guards with a kiss and recruiting Freeze. That's it. We don't need to see anything else. If she got herself in, she could get them out.
-In order to cut Bane related stuff, I cut Batman and Robin watching any video footage of the escape while at Freeze's lair. They find his wife and then go after Ivy. Freeze subdues the police and gets his stuff without encountering them. Batman and Robin climb down in the boiler room area and find nothing (this was where the Bane encounter happens, but it's been cut). With Freeze outta there and Batman and Robin on a wile good chase, Ivy emerges and unplugs Nora.
-At the Turkish bathhouse, I cropped out Bane as Ivy grabs one of her mutant plants. To help cover some of this and the reframing, I doubled up on shots of Freeze looking at her.
-Cut Ivy getting Gordon to give her the batsignal. Most of this was because of Bane. Also, I felt that with the Bruce/Julie/Ivy scene, Julie would've broken up with him and that gave her an ending since it really doesn't go anywhere due to scenes that were either cut or not filmed with her fate.
-Trimmed back on the bickering between Bruce and Dick as they finally bury their issues.
-Barbara, excuse me, Batgirl's new theme starts to lightly play as she discovers the batcave. No suit up nonsense with her either.
-No "ta da" music when Ivy's Venus flytrap bed is shown. Their dialogue between each other has been trimmed back as it was just bad.
-Batgirl crashes in and there is very little dialogue left during their fight because it was soooooooooooo bad. I did of course leave her revealing "this is a one woman show" for later.
-With their dialogue cut and removing an obvious reverse shot of Robin struggling for air, it moves much quicker. The awful dialogue between Batman and Batgirl has been restructrued so Batman says "and you are?" to which Barbara replies that it's her to which Batman then responds "I know". Felt much more like a Batman thing than the PC speech he gives. The Arkham City theme plays as they unite as a team.
-Some cropped shots due to Bane being around at the observatory
-We see the Batfamily driving to the observatory, but no encounter with any henchmen. There was some head scratching decisions made in the original cut that I don't know why it went into the final draft.
-A LOT was done with the climax. Here's the gist.....lots of rescoring, lots of new sound effects, Robin and Batgirl do not encounter Bane, but are stuck until Batman gets them after the telescope falls. Freeze doesn't throw a quick hissy fit when he keeps missing punching Batman. Their brawl is more streamlined and I think much better paced.
-Robin doesn't say "you're pretty good at this little girl". It's just "you're pretty good at this" to which Barbara's response has been altered to say "well, watch and learn".
-Batman plays a recording for Mr. Freeze of what Ivy said about unplugging his wife. It is now an audio recording and NOT a video recording along with matching soundwaves.
-Mr. Freeze does not deliver his last one-liner of "take two of these and call me in the morning".
-Changed the music for our visit to Arkham. Ivy is in her cell ALONE. After we see her, I used an earlier shot that I removed and placed here of Victor looking at his ice sculpture of his wife while looking sad. I felt that this was the best way to end his story.
-I cut Barbara saying "that was me" twice while referencing how she kicked Ivy's "botanical butt".
-As Barbara asks them to be partners, we start to hear the '89 Batman Finale music arranged by Joel McNeeley.
-As they all join hands, we crossfade to a pan up some Gotham buildings (curtesy of Batman Forever) to see the Batsignal in the sky and then onto our hero silhouettes running toward the screen off on their next adventure.
-Brief custom end credits (as well as a credit for myself)
-New credits music.
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It really is the sub zero "cheese" version. I'd say the majority of the frozen stale cheese within the film is melted away. The intro is exactly how it should have been done originally. The fight scenes look more slick and do not look as goofy. The one liners are mostly gone and the odd one or two which remain are just enough for a Batman film. Oh and Bane who?

The score actually sounds brilliant now. I remember it being extremely off-putting originally. The change of soundtrack improves the film alone. Changing from colour to B&W contrasts well with the ice visuals throughout the film. It makes Mr Freeze's blaster effects (and Mr Freeze himself) look much more deadlier too!

Batgirl and Robin? Well less is more in this case. Even Clooney wasn't great. I'm glad Batgirl's lines were cut short...everyone knows the entire script is awful....the speech is just terrible, but Batgirl suffered the worst in the theatrical release...Did she just not bother because the script was so bad? Whatever the case, it still shows here even with her mostly being cut right down....I never liked the whole racing scene either. Were Batgirl or Robin needed at all?

This edit seems more aimed towards an older audience. The original is strange for that reason as it really didn't seem to know who to capture, it seemed like a kids film, but the actual themes revolving around death, ecology (a very big theme in the 21st Century, was Poison Ivy just an extreme Greta Thunberg?) and sexual lust are quite adult for a kiddy audience, but then it would make sense why they added so much silly goofy humour and cartoonish visuals to hide it.

My conclusion on this "Deep Freeze" edit would be that if you ever wanted to watch Batman & Robin ever again then this would be the one to go for. I do recommend it and I didn't cringe...too much! ;-)

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This is the first time since the blu ray came out years ago that I have been able to finish this movie! That is quite an accomplishment if you had any idea how much I really don't like it LOL...

I have seen 2 movies by Music Ed and he does a wonderful job! I really enjoyed is Superman edit and this shows a ton of creativity and work. There were a couple of scenes that looked like they were slowed down so I took a point off for that. The audio was very inspired except for when Poison Ivy tells Freeze they should team up and placed cartoonish music when we cut to Freezes face.

The removal of Bane and most of the silly elements really sells Freeze as a more sympathetic villain and gives the movie some much needed focus. Going black and white is probably the only way to save our eyes from all the neon color the theatrical version had.

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i loved this movie as a kid when it was released back in the 90's. definitely hasn't aged well, and i get the hatred for it over the years. In saying that, this was an interesting and new point of view. i like the B&W esthetic to it, the different scores i enjoyed too (the arkham city score especially) the editing was well done, getting rid of the filler and cheesy dialogue especially mr. freeze's ice puns and bane too. and the most important thing... NO BAT CREDIT CARD!!! hahaha
really the only thing i found hard to process was the beginning credits, maybe another watch will change that for me.
but all in all fantastic job on this!

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Now this is a movie I never thought I'd enjoy one day. The render of B&W is beautiful, the focusing on the tragic side of the characters (Freeze's wife and Alfred's sickness) was a wise choice, it adds the seriousness that lacked from the original cut. And the music choices are just perfect. Definitely worth checking.

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Wow... just... wow! Music Ed has accomplished something truly great here by turning easily the worst Batman movie into a coherent and even enjoyable experience. It felt very much like watching a live action version of B:TAS.

While I'm typically not a fan of watching a black and white version of a current movie (Fury Road is an all-time favorite movie of mine but I can't watch the silver and chrome version because I feel it mutes so much of what makes that movie great), it fits the tone of this edit perfectly. Pair that with the rescores which especially helped to elevate the tone of this edit. I never knew how great the scores from the Arkham games were.

There really is a ton to love here. The complete expulsion of Bane is done masterfully and you would never know for a second that he was there if you've never seen the film. An editor after my own heart, I love that a lot of dialogue is cut out during fight scenes (biggest example being Batgirl vs Poison Ivy). I've always felt this gives a much greater intensity. The redone opening credits are great and cutting back and forth helps eliminate a lot of garbage.

There are some very minor gripes but I feel you can find that with most any edit. While I adore the rescores, there were two moments where it shifts back to the regular score that feel awkward (opening when Batman and Robin are chasing Freeze down the tunnel, Climax when the gang is leaving Poison Ivy's layer/shots of the Observatory with Freeze) and there are a handful of shots that look either visibly slowed down or noticeably cropped. Again, these are minor and only distracting for a moment but those are where the knocks on A/V editing come from.

This edit should without a doubt replace the original for anyone lucky enough to watch it. It's really not even a fair fight. Great job on taking a near impossible task and running with it!
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