Amazing Spider-Man 2: The Untold Finale Edition, The

This fanedit is from the same editor of the first film and completes his vision of the Amazing Spider-man films, one where the first film completes the story about the mystery of Peter’s past, while the second film focuses only on Peter’s present. Sort of. By nature of the plot of this film, Harry Osborne is an old friend of Peter’s who comes home due to the death of his father and Max becomes Electro, and Gwen Stacy is moving to London, and yeah it’s still a bit jumbled, but the fanedit removing the Parker parents subplot makes it far less so. The fanedit allows these plots to breathe or take up their own space more. There’s a few moments where “this is an edit” pop out to me, pretty much any time the Richard Parker briefcase is seen in the closet.

Yet the things that always worked about the Amazing Spider-man films, the Gwen Peter young love story, the Spider-man character’s fluid movements, the two electro fight set-pieces, the emotional climax, and Garfield’s over-abundance of responsibility. The fan-edit mostly is to streamline its focus on the three main stories above, yet they all feel really disparate, almost as if they only intermingle due to plot devices to get us there.

I have to say though, I still think the emotional climax of the film taking place (during the Goblin fight) is a beautifully conceived moment and maybe one of the best moments of Spider-man film franchise history. It adds a huge sense of gravitas to the film that really was struggling to find it’s identity.

A few things this edit does to improve the original cut is the wonderful new theme for Harry, it’s haunting and it works. Harry here is introduced right from the get go and it really does make the story feel like it’s about Peter and Harry than it is about Electro as the main villain. It helps a ton and really ties the opening and ending climax, as well as the opening shot of the watch and the ending of the clock. It’s all about how much time these characters have with each other, strengthening Harry’s thematic motivations of trying to fight his disease.

It’s a super strong edit one I really enjoyed. My favorite thing about these two edits is the new openings. They tie the films thematically so much better than the original openings did.

The dubbed in Osborn line felt a biiit rough and tots an obvious edit, but beyond that I was surprised by how easily I found myself able to enjoy this one. Most of the family conspiracy stuff being relocated to the first Untold edit felt like a good call, as all that felt more natural to be placed there I thought with how that movie has way more to do with the origin aspect of the story than this movie's more typical: 'Peter Parker deals with Spider-Man drama and his life gets complicated' focused storyline.

The only other understandable kind of gripe I might have is that because of how the Aunt May scene where she sees Peter's conspiracy wall and they have their lil heart to heart was also moved to the first edit, she unfortunately doesn't get too much screen time besides the great american flag joke and the cutaways to her in the hospital; which now might feel a tad out of place if you don't remember her mentioning her gig as nurse from back then. Totally understandable though - as this movie's a bit all over the place anyway, but still, I thought I'd mention ;)

Overall yeah - with this edit now the movie's just a more refined and classic kinda Spider-Man flick. With that good empathetic Peter Parker drama, banter, and positivity :) Well done.

Note: I haven't watched this user's edit of TASM1.

The idea of starting the movie with the unused Harry theme from the soundtrack is perfect, as it immediately centers the narrative around him, while Electro becomes more secondary (which I'm not going to complain about). Now, the movie begins and ends with Harry, aside from the epilogue (that the editor thankfully kept in). Of course, the score also sets the tone and accompanies the best change of this edit. The watch shot is repurposed and works well enough (it deserved a few contextual frames of Harry looking at his watch, but you know, we can't really make complete new scenes), The first line (said by Richard in his recording) is a clean way of opening the movie and setting the main theme even more directly than in the official release. It seems random when watched without having seen the edit of the first movie, but I knew that this whole plot had been relegated to it, so it works perfectly as a call-back. Norman's new lines are very well-made and while you definitely notice it's an edit, they still serve their purpose and don't detract from the scene, quite the contrary. It's a very minor story adjustment, but it does make it more believable that Harry'd go to such extremes.

The months inserts are mostly intrusive, but the first one (transitioning from the opening Harry scene to Spidey swinging in the air) is at least excusable, though unnecessary in my eyes (and the font feels a bit too on the nose, but I don't know what I would have picked). The one usage of the title card I find tasteful is "July", just after Gwen's breakup, as it's on the left of the screen and thus feels almost intentional by the filmmakers--it fits nicely! But the rest is unneeded (and just having "July" as a single title card would be awkward, naturally) and the passage of time is adequately shown by how the characters dress and Peter's cold. I think a better way to integrate those title cards would have been to integrate them better in the environment--for example, having a title card disappear as Spidey swings in front of it, or in the background. As it is, the idea detracts from the fast-paced montage.

The added Flash scene is nice!

The Max Apartment scene is nicely done. I think Max's imaginary outburst at his mother is a bit too far, but the scene is still good and definitely adds depth to Max. I think the editor also cut some tidbits of the scene and it works wonderfully.

The mortician deleted scene is great, but I think the music choice is just wrong. I recall it already being included in the scene, though, isn't it? I feel like the mortician would listen to an actual song instead of something that obviously sounds like it came from the score. I do appreciate the fact that the scene itself gives more of a connective tissue to The Man In a Black Suit. Likewise, I appreciate that you included Felicia welcoming Peter to Oscorp, it's a smart decision.

Keeping the Youtube video is also very much appreciated, the complaints about it make no sense. I do wish the editor had also kept the apparently much-disliked No Chimney scene. Lighthearted scenes in a movie packed (and intense!) liked this one are welcome.

The scene where Peter and Gwen yearn after each other in their room is a great addition and helps the sometimes breakneck pacing of this edit.

However, I do have trouble with the inclusion of the Gwen Acceptance scene. It's a nice addition, but it's redundant, and it doesn't work well in the current edit, as it's just after she goes to see the chairman, making it seem as though no time has passed. I think starting with shots of Peter on the roof and then showing Gwen and the chairman would have worked better, or put a scene in between (but it's a very busy movie and the scene is good already).

One problem of removing the Roosevelt subplot, I find, is that it also served to slow down the pacing as well as complementing the scene where Harry frees Electro from Ravencroft--it was a big moment in the official movie, both emotionally and scenaristically climactic. Here, it's great that Harry goes there just after having been fired, it makes narrative sense, but I find it is lacking in emotion.

The inclusion of Oscorp's massacre and Felicia's last scene with Harry is a great idea (helping make this storyline a core of the movie) but it's an awkward transition, especially as it ends and goes to the second part of the Electro fight. It feels out of place, and I think it could have been placed just before the Green Goblin actually appears. Another possibility would have been just after the preceding Harry scenes, but then you'd spend a big chunk of the climax just waiting to see if Harry's going to do something.
...Well, as it is, that's essentially what happens in the OG movie. Maybe that would have been the best compromise. But my issue mostly resides with the audio cues really not fitting well. I'm talking about the Goblin's theme progressing throughout the scene, then the movie cutting back to Electro not being defeated yet. It's abrupt and needed more finesse.

I appreciate the editor cutting most of the Sinister Six set-up.

Overall, this is all mostly nitpicking. I thoroughly enjoyed this edit. It's not perfect, but with the available material (+ the excellent addition of new Norman lines!), I'd say it's amazing. Once again, I particularly enjoy the opening minutes. Didn't expect the opening to change so much of the movie's feel.

Audio/Video Quality: Superb visual quality but the audio is slightly on the muffled side and this edit doesn't have a subtitle too, so some scenes are a bit hard to understand.

Visual Editing: Perfect, I didn't notice any added scenes or newly edited scenes at all. If you haven't watch the original cut, you wouldn't notice anything out of place.

Audio Editing: Again, perfect same as visual editing.

Narrative: The movie doesn't feel cramped even with two villains, but I feel like the relationship between Harry and Peter is still a bit thin and that makes the inevitable "Confrontation scene" a bit weak. There're just not enough time and scenes too make me feel like they're best friend but that's probably because there's not enough footages in the cutting room to fresh out the relationship anyway, so not really Masirimso17's fault here. Same deal with Aunt May, she's really doesn't have anything to do in this film. Electro is good in this cut, his motivation is understandable and he's doesn't feel like a sore loser anymore. Gwen's role in this cut is also really good, you can really feel her uncertainty and struggled in the relationship with Peter.

Enjoyment: Overall, really good fanedit and I feel like it in the same quality as the original TASM 1 theatrical cut. I just wish there're more materials in the cutting room for Masirimso17 too work with, because he really did improve this film by a mile and it's so close too being a perfect Spider-man movie experience, just not quite there yet.

Massively improved, when the Roosevelt subplot was removed from this movie it allowed for much smoother pacing and allowed the main narrative to have coherent momentum, 10/10