Amazing Spider-Man 2: The Untold Finale Edition, The

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The Amazing Spider-Man 2 rebalanced, with deleted scenes added, motivations strengthened, pacing & structure improved, and plotlines that distract from the main conflict removed.
Intention:
My journey editing this film has been extremely educational, so much so you could say me finishing this is me coming full circle. The Amazing Spider-Man 2 is still one of my favorite movies, and yet as my filmmaking skills and storytelling knowledge grew, I saw the severe structural problems this film has, among others. This FanFix is my attempt at trying to remedy these.
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Deleted Scenes
The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Deluxe Soundtrack
Special Thanks:
Special thanks to Bobson Dugnutt for color correcting some of the deleted scenes for me. Also thanks to my sound design professor Derek Katzer for helping me with better mixing the Norman Osborn dub, and Problem Eliminator for doing the dub for me.
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Available as 8 GB MP4 and 25 GB MP4.
Cuts and Additions:
-New cold open, with brief voiceover from Richard Parker transitioning into Harry's introduction scene with his father. Rescored the opening logos with "Harry's Suite" by Hans Zimmer, containing a haunting violin tune that was not used in the original film. I kept the watch shot from the beginning but implied it is either Harry's or Donald Menken's inside the car, as accompanied by a car engine sound effect.
-Added two new lines to Norman Osborn: "The disease started much earlier than mine. You don't have much time left." This is done to explain and strengthen Harry's paranoia and obsession with the limited time he has, and ties into the themes even better. The dubbed over lines were spoken by Problem Eliminator so very special thanks go to him!
-Cut the opening scene with the parents and the entire Roosevelt subplot along with all mentions to it beyond simple nods to the mere existence of Peter's parents. It distracts from the main conflicts and I already moved that subplot to the first movie in my ASM1 edit.
-As echoed by many people, the passage of time in this movie is a little confusing, so I added a "JUNE" title card on screen before Spider-Man free falls, and additional month cards during the montage after the breakup.
-Added the deleted scene with Flash Thompson at graduation so the film can breathe a little bit from the super fast pace of the first act and also give a nice little farewell to Flash.
-The "we have no chimney" scene where Peter is trying to remove his Spidey suit before Aunt May comes in has been cut for time and better pacing/structure purposes.
-Kept Max's apartment scene but toned it down a little. I didn't want him to seem to crazy, but I also wanted to emphasize how lonely and invisible he feels, and I think this scene is critical for that.
-Added the deleted scene with Max's mother to further emphasize the point that he's underappreciated.
-Cut the mention that Aunt May is having training as a nurse and hiding that from Peter simply because it's inconsistent with my ASM1 edit.
-Cut Max's mental outrage to Smythe. We already have one in the mother scene and it makes more sense while here, he gets angry because he "disrespected Spider-Man". Losing that makes him more relatable and again emphasizes better how abandoned by society he feels.
-Cut the exchange between Harry and Peter about Peter's parents and how he was left with only "a briefcase full of junk." I kept "we both got dumped" however to keep the thematic parallels between them.
-Added the deleted scene with the mortician being electrocuted to death by Electro, instead of having an empty morgue with a running incinerator, which was dumb.
-Cut "You set me up! You lied to me!" in order to make Max's motivation less about being betrayed by Spider-Man and more about being hated on and seen as a monster by the city when he was finally seen by everyone. I still kept "You're so selfish" to keep Max feeling at least a little abandoned by Spider-Man too.
-Cut "It's my birthday today. Now it's time for me to light my candles!" Getting into Mr. Freeze territory here...
-After Peter takes off his suit and the little nod to Richard Parker's briefcase, we cut to Harry discovering all of his father's files.
-Contrary to other fanedits, I kept Peter looking up "Dr. Jalling's Science Investigator" on YouTube to keep Peter being resourceful. It's clear he's a lot better at biology than physics in this universe, but that doesn't diminish his intelligence in the slightest. It also explains to the audience what Peter is trying to do in that scene.
-Because I moved the Oscorp establishing shot to later, I added scene where Felicia welcomes Peter to Oscorp as a substitute, but I did not include the rest of the deleted scene as it adds nothing to the story, especially since the Roosevelt subplot was cut.
-Added the "Missing Each Other" deleted scene, but it plays after the scene with Gwen and Harry in the elevator. This was done to emphasize, after the kiss at the midpoint of the movie, how Peter is unable to let go of Gwen.
-Cut "A world without Spider-Man" once again to make Electro's anger and abandonment towards the city more than Spider-Man. Also cut its repeat during Harry discovering Special Projects.
-Added the deleted scene where Gwen is accepted into Oxford and Peter sitting on top of a building, sad. Afterwards we see an establishing shot of Oscorp in the sunset and transition to Harry at Oscorp.
-After Harry is thrown out, he immediately drives to Ravencroft to break out Max. Once again, cut Harry firing Max up by mentioning that he wants Spider-Man.
-Extended the Goblin transformation scene with the more gruesome alternate scene and color corrected & rescored it.
-Added the deleted scene where Felicia sees the Green Goblin beyond the glass.
-Cut the Sinister Six setup scene--used some of the Ravencroft footage to show Harry being locked up there. After that, we transition to the news that Aleksei Sytsevitch broke out.
-Cut Jorge's mom incorrectly yelling his name "Joe!"
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I absolutely loved the TASM1 version of the untold edits and it is now my definitive version of the movie so I was really excited to see this. And it mostly delivered. it's honestly really good.

Moving the parent stuff to the first movie gives this a lot of time to breathe and just streamlines it quite a bit. I like how Electro's anger is more directed towards the city and I like quite a lot of stuff here, especially the little motivation tweaks. I love thay they went to the effort of adding in custom dialogue. That was really cool and it mostly sounded pretty decent.

Which is why I wonder why they left in that line towards the end where Goblin says "when you said Spider-Man said no" because like, that didn't happen, I just wondered why they didn't cut it or just like dub it with another line, it would only be cutting the words "you said" from the dialogue because "when Spider-Man said no, you mean you said no" still makes sense. But otherwise, it's all great until the end although I would've liked to see the demonstration of the suit from the deleted scenes, it would have barely added 30 seconds and I think it makes us understand the suit better at the end although it's fine if they think it's unnecessary because the suit says stuff like "healing protocol activated" which is enough to get a clue what it does. That's personal preference.

But I think that one of the unintended consequences of cutting the setup after the fall towards the end is that everything feels *super rushed* like the fall happens at 1:47 and the movie is over by 1:55 so you barely even get time to properly process anything before the movie has moved on and is already over. This is a better movie than the theatrical cut by a long shot, I just think the ending needed something more to slow it down a little because it just moves too fast. I honestly don't know what they could possibly put in there but it was just a little rushed. Despite that, this is still by far the best version of this movie and I'm glad it exists.

There were also a few odd cuts like when Peter meets Gwen at Oxford there's a weird jump cut that threw me off. There's a few others too but definitely nothing too major. I do like that the "Peter's DNA made him Spider-Man" stuff was cut out but that also sort of makes Peter's reluctance to give Harry his blood a little weird like he's obviously just being cautious and this edit does play it off like that but that's just a me thing, probably. It works well for the most part and aside from a (mostly forced to be because of a lack of content) rushed ending, this is easily the best version of this movie.

The way this structures the third act is also really enjoyable and it's just a fun time and much more cohesive than the theatrical cut.

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Originally posted 2 months ago: https://old.reddit.com/r/fanedits/comments/rlw7vd/tasm_the_untold_extended_edition_and_tasm2_the/

Ho. Ly. Shit. I already thought the original was decent but Masirimso's edit elevates it to a whole new level. Cleaner, faster, and more focused, it lets the film's pros shine through. And has Jamie Foxx's Electro less of an uninteresting "Hate Spider-Man" guy to a sympathetic villain who feels angry at the world for making him feel unimportant. I'd say he's now worthy of the Raimi films in this edit.

Only had three problems with the edit. May's phone call while doing the laundry felt too oddly cut to me, perhaps have everything before she agrees to a double shift cut and just have it start there? Another thing was the odd cut of Harry's prison scene. It just felt it didn't result to anything and would have rather have had the Sinister Six setup retained to have the film a "Gamera: Revenge Of Iris"-type ending. Finally, I wish Masirimso keep the subplot of Richard using his blood for the experiments and having only the Parkers be able to use it. That was the main reason that Peter said no to Harry using his blood since it would not have worked and just have resulted in a mutation.

As a whole though, bravo Masirimso. Bravo. You've turned a OK film into one of the best.

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Excellent edit, adding the parents subplot into the first one was a very smart move, the story is now smoother and much more enjoyable. Loved the morgue deleted scene and Harry's gruesome transformation.

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Although I am a DC fan, or rather I became one growing up, overall, Spider-Man is my all time favourite superhero! I have read lots of comics, both with Peter and Miles Morales, seen the great Amazing Spider-Man animation and of course, watched several times all 8 of his movies. The original two Amazing Spider-Man films, were really hit or miss for me. Several good stuff in them and several bad. Let's say, for the second Amazing movie, my overall enjoyment factor was a 7, mostly because they had the balls to kill Gwen (spoiler alert) and, for me, it has the best and most comic-accurate Spider-Man costume ever!

When I came upon the "Untold" edits I was really really intrigued. I mean, having all the "Peter parents" plot from the second movie into the first, which was his origin film, made perfect sense! And for this one, maybe it became a little better without several distractions.

As with the previous one, the visual and audio editing here was again, excellent! You could not tell if anything was tampered with or missing. So job well done for a second time!!

On the narrative side of things, did the movie become better without all the removed stuff? Overall yes, quite a bit! I was able to enjoy great Spidey action and humor without unnecessary distractions from before. But, there was another, negative, thing that came out brighter than before, by removing all the fat. The poorly written and totally rushed Green Goblin. Seriously, I realised it even more with this edit. And the unfortunate thing is, you cannot remove him because he kills Gwen (again, spoiler alert). So we are stack with this character..

A minor gripe that I have, is that the editor also kept Rhino at the end. But I understand, you can't close the film with a funeral, plus if you remove Rhino, you have to remove the scene with the little kid, which was great! Still, if a way was found to end the movie without Rhino, (maybe some web slingin around town?), it would be less cringey.

So, I definitely recommend to check this out, I believe it will be your go-to version, unless you absolutely hated the original. For me it will be from now on!

Thank you Marisimo17 and thanks to anyone who read my review!

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Cast yourself back to the summer of 2014. The Marvel cinematic universe is in full swing, DC has just announced that they'll be doing their own universe. X-men: Days of Future Past had just hit theaters to astounding success... so what about our favourite web-head? When's he getting in on all the action? Well, this is where our review starts. It's a warm summer evening, and you and your friends are standing in line for tickets. You've just graduated high-school, been accepted to university, you feel just like Peter P, our favorite quick-talking webslinger, as like him, you're transitioning from a naive youth to your new woeful-ridden and always-late-on-your-rent adult life. It also happens to be your birthday.... you've been planning this movie trip with your friends for ages. You've spent the whole day having fun, managed to find that Marvel Legends ASM2 Spidey figure that is now insanely over-priced on ebay due to NWH's deserved success. You've seen the trailers, tried to ignore the rumours so that you can go in fresh (aside from the 'big' news that Shailene Woodley was cast as hot-headed fan-favourite red-head MJ, and the possibility of a Sinister 6 spin-off... among others) and walk into the theater with high expectations. Sure, the first film wasn't exactly "The Dark Knight" levels of quality drama, but hey, it was a decent flick that was meant to set-up a universe, and besides, by 2012 there were already so many origin stories (a la MCU milking it for Avengers set-up) that the public was already getting sick of them, so it was understandable that the quality for ASM1 wasn't top notch as even the crew probably didn't have their hearts in it. You walk into the theater, preparing for what you hope will be the equivalent of a worthy Shakespearean tale to add to the pantheon of 'Spectacular' Spider-man stories....

...only to walk out again with nothing but shattered expectations, a heavy heart, and an attitude as mournful as our hero at the end of Amazing Spider-man issue #121 (just like the end of this movie). It would be easy to try and speculate about the myriad of reasons of why this film was such a "Fisk'-cally financial flop. Does Kingpin run SONY and simply wanted to leave our arachnid icon to bleed dry on the ground? We'll never know. What I do know, however, is that rarely have I ever been disappointed by a film like I was with ASM2.

I love 'The Amazing Spider-man 2'. Don't get me wrong. However, the reason I love it is because it is literally one of the worst films I have ever seen, and I love it because it is such a cheesy, corny, stupid romp. It's the kind of B-grade film you put on after after you've had a lousy day and watch it so you can say to yourself "at least I'm not that blue guy who writes weird slash fiction about my Spider-man obsession"! The biggest shame is that this film had so much potential, and so much good going for it that I speculate it took intentional sabotage to mess it up as bad as it stands. Then again, without this flop, we would have never got 'No Way Home', so I guess there's a 'Silver-sabled'-lining?

For years, I've always wondered what this film would have looked like if it were put in the hands of someone who actually knows a bit about proper editing (and without dastardly studio meddling/interference). So I was pleasantly surprised when I came across Masirimso's ASM2: Untold Finale Edition. To say that his re-webbed version of the film is an improvement is an absolute CRIMINAL understatement that would be deserved to be foiled by the web-head himself. Masirimo has done what Spidey in Amazing Spider-man issue #33 has done and achieved the impossible: namely, has turned an unworkable mess into something truly enjoyable... a genuine Spidey experience.

Now, of course, nothing is perfect. I have removed a star on narrative because no matter how you polish a turd.... it's still a turd. And that is no fault of Masirimo's. As Screenjunky's so eloquently put it, to paraphrase, "Wait, so he gets electrocuted, bit by electric eels, electrocuted again, and blown up? How does this just not kill him?" If that's the level of script you have to work with, then you were probably doomed from the start. What Masirimo has done however, is given the character motivation, a solid backstory and even puts a cherry on the impossible by including the excellent deleted scene of Max and his mother. Electro was absolutely one of the worst aspects of the film (to no fault of Jamie Foxx's) and no matter what bs powers the screenwriters thought up for him, they still can't save him from such a fate. But Masirimo has added a human element so far removed from the original film that it's as if the two become night and day. The fact Masirimo was even able to elicit a shred of sympathy for the character is not just evident of their skills as an editor, but is worthy of a freaking Oscar.

On the more technical side, there are two things Masirimo has done that are particularly praiseworthy. The first is getting the "tonal consistency" of the film right. Something that had always bothered me about the ASM films is the random change in tone from the first to the second film. The first film presents everything in this dark and shadowy New-York where the colours are always darkened and the sun is rarely seen. Then we jump into the second film where your eyes are visually assaulted by the rainbow-blared over-super-saturated colours of this new film from Spidey's costume to Electro's, well... "blue-ness'. Persoanlly, I love the vibrant colours of the second film, they're very reminiscent of the "Romita' issues of ASM. Masirimo manages to seamlessly blend these two almost "orthogonal" tones in the two films they did and it really, really helps. Of all the Spidey films, as much as I love the Raimi films, and as popular as the MCU ones are, I've never found any of the films as visually appealing as the colours and tone of ASM2. Maybe it's just me, but we're talking about films where the main characters run around in underwear and spandex. Visually toned down colours always feel like they're trying to apologize for being what they are (ie a comic-book movie) but the fact is, you're a comic book movie, shame went out the window as soon as you decided to make this film and base it on a comic-book, so I say embrace your silliness and own it! Something that ASM2, for all its faults (and there are many), I concede did very well and which Masirimo carried over perfectly,

The second bit of praise to be directed at Masirimo's version is that it is a master-class in the phrase "less is sometimes more". This version of the film is something that should be shown to every up-and-coming movie editor. I understand that studios have the final say and may force directors/producers to add footage because "tEh tOyZ!!!!" but even so, Masirimo's version is clear proof that you can still have a villain smorgasbord film and yet create a decent story. The cuts also brought to my attention just how sloppy the original editing was and how drawn-out some of the scenes in the original were. For example, in the beginning after Peter and Gwen break-up again, there's a short interlude where it shows Spidey doing every-day Spidey things. After seeing Masirimo's editing, you realize just how looooong, drawn-out and boring those scenes are. Masirimo manages to capture and HOLD your attention by cutting these into quick, snappy glances of our Super-hero at work and it is so much better because it leaves more to the imagination and it just provides such better pacing for the film. Bravo. Removing the stupid "brief case" plot was excellent, and took some weight off the story that was severely holding it back in order to focus better on its characters and pacing. The re-ordering of the scenes was well-chosen, and I like the opening of Harry and his father WAY better, it sets up a mystery that will be explored later in the film in a much more positive light, The cutting of the MANY raspberry-worthy cringe-scenes with Electro/Max is also very well done, and as already mentioned, does so much for the film and the character as a whole.

All-in-all I give Masirimo's version of the film three big, hairy, radioactive spider-bitten thumbs up, not just as a great film but a master-class in editing and how to turn a horrible "Rhino-dung" of a film into a decent, watchable and still "fun" sort of flick. Watching it was like being cast back into my childhood of the 90s watching "Spiderman TAS" on Fox-kids on those nostalgic weekend mornings oh-so-long ago. Thanks Masirimo, and well done. Excelsior!

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