Amazing Spider-Man 2: The Untold Finale Edition, The

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Brief Synopsis:
The Amazing Spider-Man 2 rebalanced, with deleted scenes added, motivations strengthened, pacing & structure improved, and plotlines that distract from the main conflict removed.
Intention:
My journey editing this film has been extremely educational, so much so you could say me finishing this is me coming full circle. The Amazing Spider-Man 2 is still one of my favorite movies, and yet as my filmmaking skills and storytelling knowledge grew, I saw the severe structural problems this film has, among others. This FanFix is my attempt at trying to remedy these.
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Deleted Scenes
The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Deluxe Soundtrack
Special Thanks:
Special thanks to Bobson Dugnutt for color correcting some of the deleted scenes for me. Also thanks to my sound design professor Derek Katzer for helping me with better mixing the Norman Osborn dub, and Problem Eliminator for doing the dub for me.
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Available as 8 GB MP4 and 25 GB MP4.
Cuts and Additions:
-New cold open, with brief voiceover from Richard Parker transitioning into Harry's introduction scene with his father. Rescored the opening logos with "Harry's Suite" by Hans Zimmer, containing a haunting violin tune that was not used in the original film. I kept the watch shot from the beginning but implied it is either Harry's or Donald Menken's inside the car, as accompanied by a car engine sound effect.
-Added two new lines to Norman Osborn: "The disease started much earlier than mine. You don't have much time left." This is done to explain and strengthen Harry's paranoia and obsession with the limited time he has, and ties into the themes even better. The dubbed over lines were spoken by Problem Eliminator so very special thanks go to him!
-Cut the opening scene with the parents and the entire Roosevelt subplot along with all mentions to it beyond simple nods to the mere existence of Peter's parents. It distracts from the main conflicts and I already moved that subplot to the first movie in my ASM1 edit.
-As echoed by many people, the passage of time in this movie is a little confusing, so I added a "JUNE" title card on screen before Spider-Man free falls, and additional month cards during the montage after the breakup.
-Added the deleted scene with Flash Thompson at graduation so the film can breathe a little bit from the super fast pace of the first act and also give a nice little farewell to Flash.
-The "we have no chimney" scene where Peter is trying to remove his Spidey suit before Aunt May comes in has been cut for time and better pacing/structure purposes.
-Kept Max's apartment scene but toned it down a little. I didn't want him to seem to crazy, but I also wanted to emphasize how lonely and invisible he feels, and I think this scene is critical for that.
-Added the deleted scene with Max's mother to further emphasize the point that he's underappreciated.
-Cut the mention that Aunt May is having training as a nurse and hiding that from Peter simply because it's inconsistent with my ASM1 edit.
-Cut Max's mental outrage to Smythe. We already have one in the mother scene and it makes more sense while here, he gets angry because he "disrespected Spider-Man". Losing that makes him more relatable and again emphasizes better how abandoned by society he feels.
-Cut the exchange between Harry and Peter about Peter's parents and how he was left with only "a briefcase full of junk." I kept "we both got dumped" however to keep the thematic parallels between them.
-Added the deleted scene with the mortician being electrocuted to death by Electro, instead of having an empty morgue with a running incinerator, which was dumb.
-Cut "You set me up! You lied to me!" in order to make Max's motivation less about being betrayed by Spider-Man and more about being hated on and seen as a monster by the city when he was finally seen by everyone. I still kept "You're so selfish" to keep Max feeling at least a little abandoned by Spider-Man too.
-Cut "It's my birthday today. Now it's time for me to light my candles!" Getting into Mr. Freeze territory here...
-After Peter takes off his suit and the little nod to Richard Parker's briefcase, we cut to Harry discovering all of his father's files.
-Contrary to other fanedits, I kept Peter looking up "Dr. Jalling's Science Investigator" on YouTube to keep Peter being resourceful. It's clear he's a lot better at biology than physics in this universe, but that doesn't diminish his intelligence in the slightest. It also explains to the audience what Peter is trying to do in that scene.
-Because I moved the Oscorp establishing shot to later, I added scene where Felicia welcomes Peter to Oscorp as a substitute, but I did not include the rest of the deleted scene as it adds nothing to the story, especially since the Roosevelt subplot was cut.
-Added the "Missing Each Other" deleted scene, but it plays after the scene with Gwen and Harry in the elevator. This was done to emphasize, after the kiss at the midpoint of the movie, how Peter is unable to let go of Gwen.
-Cut "A world without Spider-Man" once again to make Electro's anger and abandonment towards the city more than Spider-Man. Also cut its repeat during Harry discovering Special Projects.
-Added the deleted scene where Gwen is accepted into Oxford and Peter sitting on top of a building, sad. Afterwards we see an establishing shot of Oscorp in the sunset and transition to Harry at Oscorp.
-After Harry is thrown out, he immediately drives to Ravencroft to break out Max. Once again, cut Harry firing Max up by mentioning that he wants Spider-Man.
-Extended the Goblin transformation scene with the more gruesome alternate scene and color corrected & rescored it.
-Added the deleted scene where Felicia sees the Green Goblin beyond the glass.
-Cut the Sinister Six setup scene--used some of the Ravencroft footage to show Harry being locked up there. After that, we transition to the news that Aleksei Sytsevitch broke out.
-Cut Jorge's mom incorrectly yelling his name "Joe!"
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Note: I haven't watched this user's edit of TASM1.

The idea of starting the movie with the unused Harry theme from the soundtrack is perfect, as it immediately centers the narrative around him, while Electro becomes more secondary (which I'm not going to complain about). Now, the movie begins and ends with Harry, aside from the epilogue (that the editor thankfully kept in). Of course, the score also sets the tone and accompanies the best change of this edit. The watch shot is repurposed and works well enough (it deserved a few contextual frames of Harry looking at his watch, but you know, we can't really make complete new scenes), The first line (said by Richard in his recording) is a clean way of opening the movie and setting the main theme even more directly than in the official release. It seems random when watched without having seen the edit of the first movie, but I knew that this whole plot had been relegated to it, so it works perfectly as a call-back. Norman's new lines are very well-made and while you definitely notice it's an edit, they still serve their purpose and don't detract from the scene, quite the contrary. It's a very minor story adjustment, but it does make it more believable that Harry'd go to such extremes.

The months inserts are mostly intrusive, but the first one (transitioning from the opening Harry scene to Spidey swinging in the air) is at least excusable, though unnecessary in my eyes (and the font feels a bit too on the nose, but I don't know what I would have picked). The one usage of the title card I find tasteful is "July", just after Gwen's breakup, as it's on the left of the screen and thus feels almost intentional by the filmmakers--it fits nicely! But the rest is unneeded (and just having "July" as a single title card would be awkward, naturally) and the passage of time is adequately shown by how the characters dress and Peter's cold. I think a better way to integrate those title cards would have been to integrate them better in the environment--for example, having a title card disappear as Spidey swings in front of it, or in the background. As it is, the idea detracts from the fast-paced montage.

The added Flash scene is nice!

The Max Apartment scene is nicely done. I think Max's imaginary outburst at his mother is a bit too far, but the scene is still good and definitely adds depth to Max. I think the editor also cut some tidbits of the scene and it works wonderfully.

The mortician deleted scene is great, but I think the music choice is just wrong. I recall it already being included in the scene, though, isn't it? I feel like the mortician would listen to an actual song instead of something that obviously sounds like it came from the score. I do appreciate the fact that the scene itself gives more of a connective tissue to The Man In a Black Suit. Likewise, I appreciate that you included Felicia welcoming Peter to Oscorp, it's a smart decision.

Keeping the Youtube video is also very much appreciated, the complaints about it make no sense. I do wish the editor had also kept the apparently much-disliked No Chimney scene. Lighthearted scenes in a movie packed (and intense!) liked this one are welcome.

The scene where Peter and Gwen yearn after each other in their room is a great addition and helps the sometimes breakneck pacing of this edit.

However, I do have trouble with the inclusion of the Gwen Acceptance scene. It's a nice addition, but it's redundant, and it doesn't work well in the current edit, as it's just after she goes to see the chairman, making it seem as though no time has passed. I think starting with shots of Peter on the roof and then showing Gwen and the chairman would have worked better, or put a scene in between (but it's a very busy movie and the scene is good already).

One problem of removing the Roosevelt subplot, I find, is that it also served to slow down the pacing as well as complementing the scene where Harry frees Electro from Ravencroft--it was a big moment in the official movie, both emotionally and scenaristically climactic. Here, it's great that Harry goes there just after having been fired, it makes narrative sense, but I find it is lacking in emotion.

The inclusion of Oscorp's massacre and Felicia's last scene with Harry is a great idea (helping make this storyline a core of the movie) but it's an awkward transition, especially as it ends and goes to the second part of the Electro fight. It feels out of place, and I think it could have been placed just before the Green Goblin actually appears. Another possibility would have been just after the preceding Harry scenes, but then you'd spend a big chunk of the climax just waiting to see if Harry's going to do something.
...Well, as it is, that's essentially what happens in the OG movie. Maybe that would have been the best compromise. But my issue mostly resides with the audio cues really not fitting well. I'm talking about the Goblin's theme progressing throughout the scene, then the movie cutting back to Electro not being defeated yet. It's abrupt and needed more finesse.

I appreciate the editor cutting most of the Sinister Six set-up.

Overall, this is all mostly nitpicking. I thoroughly enjoyed this edit. It's not perfect, but with the available material (+ the excellent addition of new Norman lines!), I'd say it's amazing. Once again, I particularly enjoy the opening minutes. Didn't expect the opening to change so much of the movie's feel.

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This is highly superior to the theatrical release! As of right now, this Untold fan edit series to me is the definitive way to watch these movies. Obviously neither of them are perfect, but the source material isn't perfect either. I had a few thoughts about improvements, but I think that's ultimately preference and the editor did an amazing job. He totally redeemed The Amazing Spider-Man 2 for me!

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I absolutely loved the TASM1 version of the untold edits and it is now my definitive version of the movie so I was really excited to see this. And it mostly delivered. it's honestly really good.

Moving the parent stuff to the first movie gives this a lot of time to breathe and just streamlines it quite a bit. I like how Electro's anger is more directed towards the city and I like quite a lot of stuff here, especially the little motivation tweaks. I love thay they went to the effort of adding in custom dialogue. That was really cool and it mostly sounded pretty decent.

Which is why I wonder why they left in that line towards the end where Goblin says "when you said Spider-Man said no" because like, that didn't happen, I just wondered why they didn't cut it or just like dub it with another line, it would only be cutting the words "you said" from the dialogue because "when Spider-Man said no, you mean you said no" still makes sense. But otherwise, it's all great until the end although I would've liked to see the demonstration of the suit from the deleted scenes, it would have barely added 30 seconds and I think it makes us understand the suit better at the end although it's fine if they think it's unnecessary because the suit says stuff like "healing protocol activated" which is enough to get a clue what it does. That's personal preference.

But I think that one of the unintended consequences of cutting the setup after the fall towards the end is that everything feels *super rushed* like the fall happens at 1:47 and the movie is over by 1:55 so you barely even get time to properly process anything before the movie has moved on and is already over. This is a better movie than the theatrical cut by a long shot, I just think the ending needed something more to slow it down a little because it just moves too fast. I honestly don't know what they could possibly put in there but it was just a little rushed. Despite that, this is still by far the best version of this movie and I'm glad it exists.

There were also a few odd cuts like when Peter meets Gwen at Oxford there's a weird jump cut that threw me off. There's a few others too but definitely nothing too major. I do like that the "Peter's DNA made him Spider-Man" stuff was cut out but that also sort of makes Peter's reluctance to give Harry his blood a little weird like he's obviously just being cautious and this edit does play it off like that but that's just a me thing, probably. It works well for the most part and aside from a (mostly forced to be because of a lack of content) rushed ending, this is easily the best version of this movie.

The way this structures the third act is also really enjoyable and it's just a fun time and much more cohesive than the theatrical cut.

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Originally posted 2 months ago: https://old.reddit.com/r/fanedits/comments/rlw7vd/tasm_the_untold_extended_edition_and_tasm2_the/

Ho. Ly. Shit. I already thought the original was decent but Masirimso's edit elevates it to a whole new level. Cleaner, faster, and more focused, it lets the film's pros shine through. And has Jamie Foxx's Electro less of an uninteresting "Hate Spider-Man" guy to a sympathetic villain who feels angry at the world for making him feel unimportant. I'd say he's now worthy of the Raimi films in this edit.

Only had three problems with the edit. May's phone call while doing the laundry felt too oddly cut to me, perhaps have everything before she agrees to a double shift cut and just have it start there? Another thing was the odd cut of Harry's prison scene. It just felt it didn't result to anything and would have rather have had the Sinister Six setup retained to have the film a "Gamera: Revenge Of Iris"-type ending. Finally, I wish Masirimso keep the subplot of Richard using his blood for the experiments and having only the Parkers be able to use it. That was the main reason that Peter said no to Harry using his blood since it would not have worked and just have resulted in a mutation.

As a whole though, bravo Masirimso. Bravo. You've turned a OK film into one of the best.

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Excellent edit, adding the parents subplot into the first one was a very smart move, the story is now smoother and much more enjoyable. Loved the morgue deleted scene and Harry's gruesome transformation.

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