- Database
- Fanedit Listings
- FanFix
- Terminator [raymix], The
Terminator [raymix], The
Updated
Faneditor Name:
Original Movie Title:
Franchise:
Fanedit Type:
Original Release Date:
1984
Original Running Time:
107
Fanedit Release Date:
Fanedit Running Time:
94
Time Cut:
16
Time Added:
3
Subtitles Available?
Available in HD?
Additional Links:
Brief Synopsis:
I've always wanted versions of the first two Terminator films that don't spoil the plot upfront, but instead let the story play out in more of a noir mystery style. This is the first of those two edits.
Intention:
My goal was to create a version of the film that doesn't explain the plot upfront, but instead allows the story unfold naturally as the film progresses & saves it's surprises.
I've also made many additional alterations & added some deleted scenes assemble my own ideal version.
I've also made many additional alterations & added some deleted scenes assemble my own ideal version.
Additional Notes:
No explanatory text/narration- We're dropped in blind & the story tells itself.
No dates mentioned- This keeps the future a threat in our present time.
No Terminator POV- It's spoilery for my intentions & looks too primitive.
No visions of the future- It's also spoilery for my intentions & I like keeping the audience in the present.
I've restored some deleted scenes that flesh-out characters & another that builds a stronger bridge to the sequel.
I've also made many additional cuts & alterations to shape my own ideal version of the story.
Other Sources:
Video-
-The Terminator (MGM bluray, 2018)
-Deleted Scenes (AI upscaled)
Additional Audio-
-The Terminator score (Milan Records remaster, 2016)
-Beat Street Breakdown by Grandmaster Melle Mel (from the album Beat Street, 1984)
-sound effects (youtube.com)
-The Terminator (MGM bluray, 2018)
-Deleted Scenes (AI upscaled)
Additional Audio-
-The Terminator score (Milan Records remaster, 2016)
-Beat Street Breakdown by Grandmaster Melle Mel (from the album Beat Street, 1984)
-sound effects (youtube.com)
Release Information:
Digital
Editing Details:
I tried to stay true to Mark Goldblatt's original editing.
Though my editing is extensive, I didn't want any obvious changes.
Though my editing is extensive, I didn't want any obvious changes.
Cuts and Additions:
PRODUCTION CREDITS-
-added the Fanedit.org logo.
-added my fanedit production logo.
-added "A James Cameron Film" credit.
FUTURE WAR-
-cut this entire scene.
-cut the text explaining the situation & character goals.
-cut the opening credits.
-cut the title card.
ARRIVAL-
-cropped a shot of the trash truck to remove the on-screen date.
-cut the truck driver's looped "What the hell?" the 2nd time.
-new music begins as the Terminator stands. (Dreams of Future War)
-extended the shot of the Terminator looking over the city.
-fade to black as the Terminator looks over the city.
TITLE CARD-
-new title card.
-new sound effects during title.
DRUNK PUNKS-
-new music ties back into the original score as the Terminator approaches the punks.
-cut the Terminator repeating "Nice night for a walk."
-cut the Terminator repeating "Nothing clean, right."
REESE ON THE RUN-
-cut the cop's cartoonish "Whaa??" when Reese asks what year it is.
-slight zoom toward Sarah's name as Reese searches the phone book.
SARAH GOES TO WORK-
-tighter framing on the shot of Sarah's time card.
-added the deleted scene of Sarah prepping for her shift.
--adjusted contrast & color to better match the bluray footage.
--adjusted the volume & EQ to better match the bluray audio.
DOWN AT THE PAWN SHOP-
-cut the Terminator asking for a "plasma rifle".
-cut the Terminator saying "Wrong" before shooting the shop owner.
RESSE GETS A CAR-
-cut Reese falling asleep in the car.
-cut Reese's dream about the future.
-a different section of Beat Street Breakdown plays when Reese starts the car.
APARTMENT MURDERS-
-clearer music cue after Ginger gets shot.
-edited the answering machine message to have the same timing as it did earlier.
--added an additional shot of the answering machine to make up the extra time.
-improved the music cue when the Terminator finds Sarah's ID.
CLUB ATTACK & ALLEY CHASE-
-cut the Terminators POV.
-cut the Terminators POV. Again.
PARKING GARAGE REVELATIONS-
-cut Reese saying "...Not for another 40 years."
-tighter edit when Sarah asks "Can you stop it?"
-cut Reese saying "...With these weapons? I don't know."
-cut Sarah asking "Why does it want me?" after asking "Why me?"
-cut Reese saying "Here... There...". He's used that cadence twice already.
AT THE POLICE STATION-
-added the deleted scene of Lt. Traxler & Officer Vukovich talking about Reese.
--adjusted the contrast & color to better match the bluray footage.
--adjusted the volume & EQ to better match the bluray audio.
SELF SURGERY-
-new color timing on all shots of the fake head.
-shortened the shot of the fake head preparing to put the scalpel into the eye.
-shortened the shot of the fake head using the towel.
-cut a shot of the fake head before the sunglasses go on.
-shortened the shot of the fake head after the sunglasses go on.
POLICE STATION MASSACRE-
-cut Sarah asking "So Reese is crazy?" & Dr. Silberman's reply, "He's a loon."
-cut the Terminators POV.
-added the deleted scene of Lt. Traxler giving Reese his gun before he dies.
--adjusted the contrast & color to better match the bluray footage.
--adjusted the volume & EQ to better match the bluray audio.
HIDING IN THE TUNNEL-
-cut Reese describing time travel as "...Like being born, maybe."
-cut Sarah saying "I didn't ask for this 'honor' & I don't want it."
-cut Reese telling Sarah "It's a good field dressing" & her "My first" response.
-extended the shot of Sarah falling asleep.
-fade out on the shot of Sarah falling asleep.
-cut Sarah dreaming about the future.
-cut the wake up scene.
IN THE TERMINATORS SMELLY ROOM-
-cut this entire scene.
AT THE TIKI HOTEL-
-corrected the lip-sync when the Terminator imitates Sarah's mothers voice.
-cut Sarah asking Reese what girls are like in the future & the ensuing conversation.
-shorter sex scene montage.
-cut the Terminator's POV.
CHASES & CRASHES-
-removed the first of Sarah's looped screams during the truck crash.
-new truck crash sound.
-cut the Terminator telling the trucker to "Get out."
-cut the Terminators POV.
-cut 4 shots of the fake head.
-re-edited the truck explosion so that the cab only blows up once.
IN THE FACTORY-
-shortened a shot of the Terminator chasing Sarah & Reese down the hall.
-Reese doesn't fall & give up once inside the factory.
-shuffled shots so the Terminator breaks the door while Reese is activating machinery.
-cut a puppetty-looking shot of the Terminator coming up the stairs.
-adjusted the color when the Terminator smacks Reese to better match the surrounding shots.
-cut the shot of the stop-motion Terminator walking up behind Reese.
-cut a puppetty-looking shot of the Terminator crawling.
-Sarah says "You're terminated" as the press crushes, instead of before hitting the button.
DOWN IN MEXICO-
-re-scored the end of the scene with Terminator Main Theme (Extended).
-new SFX for the Jeep starting, driving & thunder.
END CREDITS-
-cut the production manager & assistant credit.
-cut the Harlan Ellison acknowledgement.
-added the title card before the credits roll.
-re-scored the end credits with Terminator Main Theme (Extended).
-moved the cast to the beginning of the credits.
-slight speed-up of the end credits so that the text ends with the music instead of after.
POST-CREDITS-
-added the deleted scene of the microchip being found & the revelation that it's at Cyberdyne.
--adjusted the contrast to better match the bluray footage.
--adjusted the volume & EQ to better match the bluray audio.
--cut Sarah being taken away in the middle of the scene.
--added & edited music to score the scene. (The Terminator Main Title)
-added my production logo to the end.
-added the Fanedit.org logo.
-added my fanedit production logo.
-added "A James Cameron Film" credit.
FUTURE WAR-
-cut this entire scene.
-cut the text explaining the situation & character goals.
-cut the opening credits.
-cut the title card.
ARRIVAL-
-cropped a shot of the trash truck to remove the on-screen date.
-cut the truck driver's looped "What the hell?" the 2nd time.
-new music begins as the Terminator stands. (Dreams of Future War)
-extended the shot of the Terminator looking over the city.
-fade to black as the Terminator looks over the city.
TITLE CARD-
-new title card.
-new sound effects during title.
DRUNK PUNKS-
-new music ties back into the original score as the Terminator approaches the punks.
-cut the Terminator repeating "Nice night for a walk."
-cut the Terminator repeating "Nothing clean, right."
REESE ON THE RUN-
-cut the cop's cartoonish "Whaa??" when Reese asks what year it is.
-slight zoom toward Sarah's name as Reese searches the phone book.
SARAH GOES TO WORK-
-tighter framing on the shot of Sarah's time card.
-added the deleted scene of Sarah prepping for her shift.
--adjusted contrast & color to better match the bluray footage.
--adjusted the volume & EQ to better match the bluray audio.
DOWN AT THE PAWN SHOP-
-cut the Terminator asking for a "plasma rifle".
-cut the Terminator saying "Wrong" before shooting the shop owner.
RESSE GETS A CAR-
-cut Reese falling asleep in the car.
-cut Reese's dream about the future.
-a different section of Beat Street Breakdown plays when Reese starts the car.
APARTMENT MURDERS-
-clearer music cue after Ginger gets shot.
-edited the answering machine message to have the same timing as it did earlier.
--added an additional shot of the answering machine to make up the extra time.
-improved the music cue when the Terminator finds Sarah's ID.
CLUB ATTACK & ALLEY CHASE-
-cut the Terminators POV.
-cut the Terminators POV. Again.
PARKING GARAGE REVELATIONS-
-cut Reese saying "...Not for another 40 years."
-tighter edit when Sarah asks "Can you stop it?"
-cut Reese saying "...With these weapons? I don't know."
-cut Sarah asking "Why does it want me?" after asking "Why me?"
-cut Reese saying "Here... There...". He's used that cadence twice already.
AT THE POLICE STATION-
-added the deleted scene of Lt. Traxler & Officer Vukovich talking about Reese.
--adjusted the contrast & color to better match the bluray footage.
--adjusted the volume & EQ to better match the bluray audio.
SELF SURGERY-
-new color timing on all shots of the fake head.
-shortened the shot of the fake head preparing to put the scalpel into the eye.
-shortened the shot of the fake head using the towel.
-cut a shot of the fake head before the sunglasses go on.
-shortened the shot of the fake head after the sunglasses go on.
POLICE STATION MASSACRE-
-cut Sarah asking "So Reese is crazy?" & Dr. Silberman's reply, "He's a loon."
-cut the Terminators POV.
-added the deleted scene of Lt. Traxler giving Reese his gun before he dies.
--adjusted the contrast & color to better match the bluray footage.
--adjusted the volume & EQ to better match the bluray audio.
HIDING IN THE TUNNEL-
-cut Reese describing time travel as "...Like being born, maybe."
-cut Sarah saying "I didn't ask for this 'honor' & I don't want it."
-cut Reese telling Sarah "It's a good field dressing" & her "My first" response.
-extended the shot of Sarah falling asleep.
-fade out on the shot of Sarah falling asleep.
-cut Sarah dreaming about the future.
-cut the wake up scene.
IN THE TERMINATORS SMELLY ROOM-
-cut this entire scene.
AT THE TIKI HOTEL-
-corrected the lip-sync when the Terminator imitates Sarah's mothers voice.
-cut Sarah asking Reese what girls are like in the future & the ensuing conversation.
-shorter sex scene montage.
-cut the Terminator's POV.
CHASES & CRASHES-
-removed the first of Sarah's looped screams during the truck crash.
-new truck crash sound.
-cut the Terminator telling the trucker to "Get out."
-cut the Terminators POV.
-cut 4 shots of the fake head.
-re-edited the truck explosion so that the cab only blows up once.
IN THE FACTORY-
-shortened a shot of the Terminator chasing Sarah & Reese down the hall.
-Reese doesn't fall & give up once inside the factory.
-shuffled shots so the Terminator breaks the door while Reese is activating machinery.
-cut a puppetty-looking shot of the Terminator coming up the stairs.
-adjusted the color when the Terminator smacks Reese to better match the surrounding shots.
-cut the shot of the stop-motion Terminator walking up behind Reese.
-cut a puppetty-looking shot of the Terminator crawling.
-Sarah says "You're terminated" as the press crushes, instead of before hitting the button.
DOWN IN MEXICO-
-re-scored the end of the scene with Terminator Main Theme (Extended).
-new SFX for the Jeep starting, driving & thunder.
END CREDITS-
-cut the production manager & assistant credit.
-cut the Harlan Ellison acknowledgement.
-added the title card before the credits roll.
-re-scored the end credits with Terminator Main Theme (Extended).
-moved the cast to the beginning of the credits.
-slight speed-up of the end credits so that the text ends with the music instead of after.
POST-CREDITS-
-added the deleted scene of the microchip being found & the revelation that it's at Cyberdyne.
--adjusted the contrast to better match the bluray footage.
--adjusted the volume & EQ to better match the bluray audio.
--cut Sarah being taken away in the middle of the scene.
--added & edited music to score the scene. (The Terminator Main Title)
-added my production logo to the end.
User reviews
6 reviews
Overall rating
9.5
Audio/Video Quality
9.5(6)
Audio Editing
9.8(6)
Visual Editing
9.5(6)
Narrative
9.3(6)
Enjoyment
9.5(6)
(Updated: February 26, 2024)
Overall rating
9.2
Audio/Video Quality
10.0
Audio Editing
10.0
Visual Editing
9.0
Narrative
9.0
Enjoyment
8.0
I'd say this is a really interesting way to view The Terminator, well worth viewing for fans of the series.
Likes:
-many of the cuts remove scenes/parts of scenes that don't add to the story and possibly detract from it
-removal of all scenes from the future provides a very unique viewing experience
-removal of title card explaining the film improves the experience
-color, lighting, and audio adjustments blend well and do not detract from the film at all
-shortening of mannequin scenes helps
-addition of deleted scene of microchip being found
Dislikes:
-removal of Reese's dream and falling asleep in the car entirely (elaborated below)
-removal of "it's a good field dressing" scene, "with these weapons?" scene, and all future scenes feels a bit heavy handed
Recommendations:
- Would like to see the eye surgery scene be replaced with the remastered #2 version by StoRyx K on Youtube (noticeable improvement) - LINK - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky8F1Vzq0U8&t=72s
- Would like to see the ending chase scenes replaced with the remade blender animation by StoRyx K on Youtube (not perfect, but noticeable improvement) - LINK - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdevFNWh4to&t=6s
-Would like to see some scenes of the future returned (elaborated below)
This is an excellent and unique viewing experience well worth a watch. While I agree with the vast majority of the decisions made here, and feel they improve the film dramatically, not having any future scenes at all really detracted from the experience. The removal of all future scenes is understandable with the editor's goals, but I think having one at the very beginning of the film, and some small flashes during Reese being asleep would be ok. I think it would be possible to show some quick shots of say, the treads going over the skulls, then Reese waking up, without it being a full several minute endeavor. Removing them entirely along with the other cuts also makes the first film quite short. I have considered attempting to add some of the future scenes from later Terminator films that look better (for example, adding the ones from T2, then putting the one from T3 into T2 minus the bottle falling). All in all, though, it made for a very enjoyable and unique experience. Thank you for your hard work - on my way to review the raymix version of T2! :D
Likes:
-many of the cuts remove scenes/parts of scenes that don't add to the story and possibly detract from it
-removal of all scenes from the future provides a very unique viewing experience
-removal of title card explaining the film improves the experience
-color, lighting, and audio adjustments blend well and do not detract from the film at all
-shortening of mannequin scenes helps
-addition of deleted scene of microchip being found
Dislikes:
-removal of Reese's dream and falling asleep in the car entirely (elaborated below)
-removal of "it's a good field dressing" scene, "with these weapons?" scene, and all future scenes feels a bit heavy handed
Recommendations:
- Would like to see the eye surgery scene be replaced with the remastered #2 version by StoRyx K on Youtube (noticeable improvement) - LINK - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky8F1Vzq0U8&t=72s
- Would like to see the ending chase scenes replaced with the remade blender animation by StoRyx K on Youtube (not perfect, but noticeable improvement) - LINK - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdevFNWh4to&t=6s
-Would like to see some scenes of the future returned (elaborated below)
This is an excellent and unique viewing experience well worth a watch. While I agree with the vast majority of the decisions made here, and feel they improve the film dramatically, not having any future scenes at all really detracted from the experience. The removal of all future scenes is understandable with the editor's goals, but I think having one at the very beginning of the film, and some small flashes during Reese being asleep would be ok. I think it would be possible to show some quick shots of say, the treads going over the skulls, then Reese waking up, without it being a full several minute endeavor. Removing them entirely along with the other cuts also makes the first film quite short. I have considered attempting to add some of the future scenes from later Terminator films that look better (for example, adding the ones from T2, then putting the one from T3 into T2 minus the bottle falling). All in all, though, it made for a very enjoyable and unique experience. Thank you for your hard work - on my way to review the raymix version of T2! :D
User Review
Do you recommend this edit?
Yes
Format Watched?
Digital
S
Overall rating
9.6
Audio/Video Quality
9.0
Audio Editing
10.0
Visual Editing
10.0
Narrative
9.0
Enjoyment
10.0
While there are many Terminator fan edits out there, this one is one of the better ones that exist. Ray Danger has a long history of making excellent fan edits and this is no exception. I'm impressed by the fact he removed the T-800 heads up display. Although it's a cool feature to see, it's a bit dated and isn't missed in this edit. I'm also in favor of his decision to remove the flash-forward scenes in the future. The trimming of the many scenes throughout the movie were well chosen and really tighten up the flow as well as the action of the movie. Although I enjoyed the addition some of the deleted scenes, I'm disappointed at the fact the low quality draws me out of the movie. THis is in no way a slam against the fan editor as this is something completely beyond their control. Overall, I'm satisfied with this fan edit and think it's a worthy addition to anyone's fan edit collection. It won't be my go to for watching this movie, but it's a great alternative, especially with this fan editor's Terminator 2 fan edit made to compliment it. Well done.
User Review
Do you recommend this edit?
Yes
Format Watched?
Digital
R
Overall rating
9.6
Audio/Video Quality
9.0
Audio Editing
10.0
Visual Editing
10.0
Narrative
9.0
Enjoyment
10.0
Ray takes an already very lean and mean thriller and makes it even tighter. Removing the future bits (and T-800 HUD) are seemingly small changes that give the film a completely different vibe (along with other changes throughout of course). Much more ground level, more enigmatic, possibly scarier. Not my preferred version but it makes for a fun alternate.
One thing is I'm not sure the small deleted bits add enough to justify such drastic drops in quality, but they do help switch things up even more. I almost wonder if the mindset here could be taken even further, showing things just from Sarah's perspective, but that would probably break the film and this makes for a nice compromise.
A fun, slightly different take on a classic.
One thing is I'm not sure the small deleted bits add enough to justify such drastic drops in quality, but they do help switch things up even more. I almost wonder if the mindset here could be taken even further, showing things just from Sarah's perspective, but that would probably break the film and this makes for a nice compromise.
A fun, slightly different take on a classic.
D
Overall rating
10.0
Audio/Video Quality
10.0
Audio Editing
10.0
Visual Editing
10.0
Narrative
10.0
Enjoyment
10.0
Keeping the story in the present worked very well. It really changed the tone and was a very enjoyable watch. The deleted scenes were hit-and-miss though. Very well done, thank you!
User Review
Do you recommend this edit?
Yes
Format Watched?
Digital
D
Overall rating
9.8
Audio/Video Quality
10.0
Audio Editing
9.0
Visual Editing
10.0
Narrative
10.0
Enjoyment
10.0
I loved how you edited this to where none of the future was shown and none of the Terminator HUD was show and also none of the dates revealed the future and that kept the question of who are these guys…. I also liked the deleted scenes you chose to put in and I love how some of the music and sounds was enhanced….. there is one small thing I would advise editing in a Version 2 is when you make it to where when you have the Terminator HUD not shown and it was suppose to just show the Terminator in action and not the HUD to find a way to remove the sound of the HUD cuz it a small mistake but it also makes you wonder why that sound is there and no explanation but otherwise I liked the change of story telling
User Review
Do you recommend this edit?
Yes
Format Watched?
Digital
T