Dark Knight Saga Recut, The - Part II
The Dark Knight - Trailer (shot of Batman saying, "Then you're gonna love me").
- NTSC DVD-5
- Blu-Ray (BD-25)
- Tone down Bale’s performance as Batman (less shouting, less duck face growling)
- Try to make the police less stupid and remove their jokey one-liners.
- Cut any dialogue that sounds like it was written to be in the trailer (I.e.,dialogue that sounds unnaturally shoe-horned into the scene).
- Cut bad jokes where possible.
- Cut Batman’s strobing, epilepsy inducing sonar vision.
- Cut story points that don’t make much sense (fall from building, riding batpod through a shopping centre, flipping batpod by riding up the wall).
- Cut poor performances from Gotham citizens where possible (i.e., copycats, press conference, on the ferries
- Cut “Why do they call him the Joker?” “I hear he wears makeup, to scare people. You know, like war paint.”
- Cut, “He’s out, right?” Joker nods. Goon gets shot. “Where did you learn to count?”
- Cut drug dealer’s, “You’ve got more chance of winning the power ball than running into him!”
- Cut copycat vigilantes and all references to hockey pants from the Scarecrow drug deal scene.
- Fixed an error in the original cut where the Chechen gangster gets into his car afterit has already driven away.
- Cut Batman attempting to saw into the side of Scarecrow’s van.
- Cut Bruce and Alfred’s dialogue about copycats with guns.
- Cut unnecessary first scene between the annoying accountant and Lucius.
- Cut “Three buttons is a little 90’s Mr.Wayne.” I’m not talking fashion so much as function.”
- Cut Rachel’s, “Harvey, the last person to take control of Rome was called Caesar, and - he never gave up his power.” Harvey: “Fine, you either die a hero, or livelong enough to see yourself become the villain.
- Cut "He's a symbol...", so that when Joker asks "Why do you dress up like him?", the answer is "we don't have to be afraid of scum like you!" Hopefully the implication is that Joker dressed him up in the outfit, not that he's trying to be a copycat/vigilante himself.
- Trimmed conversation between Ramirez and Gordon, cutting “The Joker’s telling us who he’s targeting! Get a unit over to Cerilo’s house, tell Worts to find Dent, get them both into protective custody, where’s the Commissioner? “ “City Hall” “Seal the building, no one in or out until I get there!”
- Cut the couple making out/undressing during the Joker’s attack at the fundraiser. “Hey Wayne, what’s happening out there? Oh, Thank God, you’ve got a panic room…. Oh you’ve gotta be kidding me.”
- Trimmed police to Cerilo, “These are dangerous people judge.” “But you’re not giving me a lot of information here!” “Even we don’t know where you’re going”
- Re-inserted a shot from Trailer 1 of Batman saying “Then you’re gonna love me”, which was not used in the original cut of the film. Inserted shot has been color corrected to match film colour grading.
- Recut Rachel and Batman’s fall off the building, adding footage/sound effects of Batman firing his grappling gun from Batman Begins to help explain how they could have survived such a fall.
- Small trim to Alfred's story about the jewel thief, cutting "You squeezed em...". Now, same as the teaser trailer, he just says "You hammered em, and in their desperation they turned to a man...".
- Cut Ramirez stating the obvious, “Harvey Dent!”, after Gordon names Joker’s victim’s, “Richard Dent… Patrick Harvey.”
- Cut Wayne firing four different bullets in the bat cave. Now cuts straight to him scanning the evidence he gathered from the crime scene.
- Cut Batman’s, “WHERE IS HE?!” Marone: “Nobody knows where he is”, B: “He must have friends” M: “Friends? Have you even met this guy?”, B: “SOMEONE KNOWS WHERE HEIS”. After Marone’s fall, first line of dialogue is now, “Nobody’s gonna tell you nothin”.
- Cut “The night is darkest just before the dawn, and I promise you, the dawn is coming”.
- Cut Gotham citizen during press conference, “Things are worse than everrrr”.
- Swapped a shot of crowd reacting to Harvey’s press conference, to avoid woman shaking her head at Harvey before he has actually said anything.
- Cut angry Gotham citizen’s, “He should turn himself in!”
- Cut Rachel's "You make your own luck".
- Cut swat van policeman's, "I hope you've got some moves pal!"
- Cut police convoy diversion down to the lower levels due to the flaming fire truck.
- Cut policeman’s “c’mon, get us out of here, let’s go!”
- Cut policeman’s “we’ve got trouble guys!” & “lock and load!”
- Shortened Joker shooting the police van with small guns. He now goes for the bazooka as soon as it becomes clear the machine gun won’t break through.
- Cut policeman’s, “what is that, a bazooka? I didn’t sign up for this!”
- Fixed editing of tumbler’s crash, so that it doesn’t appear to lose momentum twice before crashing through a wall and coming to a stop.
- Cut shots of Tradesmen watching and eating bread rolls while batpod emerges from broken batmobile.
- Cut batmobile saying “goodbye”
- Cut Policeman’s “that’s what I’m talkin about!”
- Cut guy picking his teeth in the rear view mirror before Batman breaks it as he drives past.
- Cut Batman driving batpod through heavy traffic, breaking everyone’s mirrors.
- Cut joke with kids pretending to play machine guns in the car.
- Cut policeman’s “That’s not good…. Ok, that is not good!” as the helicopter crashes towards them.
- Cut batman driving through the shopping mall on his batpod.
- Cut batpod scaling the wall to turn the batpod around.
- Cut policeman’s, “you can’t stop here, we’ll be like sitting ducks!”
- Cut Dent to Gordon, “Gordon! You do like to play things pretty close to the chest!”. Previously this phrase was used between Wayne and Lucius, and it seems strange to hear it again in a totally unrelated context.
- Cut stupid police comments: "He's got some kind of contusion... Is that a phone?"
- Cut Alfred to Bruce, “Will you be wanting the batpod sir?” “Middle of the day Alfred? Not very subtle.” “The Lamborghini then. Much more subtle.”
- Cut Gordon’s, “It’s Mr.Wayne, isn’t it?”. He knows who Bruce Wayne is…
- Cut Lucius/Batman, “You’ve turned every cell phone in Gotham into a microphone.” “And a high frequency generator receiver.”
- Significantly cut down all scenes of Gotham citizens on the boats deciding whether to blow up the other boat.
- Cut most of Batman’s epilepsy inducing sonar night vision POV shots.
- Cut policeman’s “He’s out of the game!”.
- Cut Batman’s one liner, “No, but I know how you got these!”
- Cut "We'd better stop this fighting, or we'll miss the fireworks!" "There won't be any fireworks""
- Cut, "What were you trying to prove? that deep down, everyone's as ugly as you?"
- Cut batman’s, “You’re alone”, due to significant duck face.
- Cut Batman’s, “This city….Just showed you….That it’s full of people…ready to believe in goooood”. J: “Until their spirit breaks completely. Until they get a good look at the real Harvey Dent, and all the heroic things he’s done.” Good dialogue, but so strangely performed by Bale. It had to go… No more duck faced Batman.
- Cut Harvey’s “you thought we could be decent men in an indecent time, but you were wrong”.
- Cut Batman’s, “Because you were the best of us. He wanted to prove that even someone as good as you could fall.” H: And he was right.
- Cut out Gordon’s son’s, “Dad? Dad, is he ok?”
- Cut Batman’s “You either die a hero, or see yourself become the villain…” reprise.
- Cut Batman’s, “I can do those things. Because I’m not a hero, unlike Dent”. Serious duck face.
- Cut Batman running away awkwardly, and Gordon’s son’s “Batman! Why is he running dad?”. G: “Because we have to chase him.” Son: “He didn’t do anything wrong!" Gordon “He’s the hero Gotham deserves, but not the one it needs right now.”
- Cut Gordon’s, “because he’s not a hero.”
- Replaced ‘The Dark Knight' title card with Dark Knight Saga Recut – Part II.
- Added Bill Finger as co-creator of Batman in the end credits
Equally great editing in this the second part in The Dark Knight Saga. Just about everything suited me. A bit too quick in the beginning, though, with the van and Scarecrow. Otherwise I felt all the poor jokes and exposition were dealt with beautifully. Definitely an improvement from the original. Recommended!
Thank you NJVC! :]X
This edit is great. I agree with the changes because I feel its meant to be experienced in continuity with the previous and preceding films as one long epic. Great job njvc. Highly recommend all three of njvc's Dark Knight edits
I have mixed feelings about this edit. There are somethings that baffle me like the removal of the copycat's which makes Batman's appearance abrupt and some of the audio and visual cuts aren't that good. Batman having copycats siginifies that he is making a good impression on the city's populace like the Bay Harbor Butcher copycat in season 2 of Dexter (Dexter did it first). I don't like how you took Batman's dialogue out of his scene with Meroni. I know it was over the top, but it really feels like something is missing. You could have at least kept the "Where is he!?" line. When you took out the Batpod doing the cool reverse thing after Batman flipped the truck you made a continuity error. The scene where Joker says "you can't rely on anyone these days you gotta do everything yourself DONT WE!?" had a bunch of audio funkiness. Also, why did you take out the line "You thought we could be decent men in an indecent time!"? And Jim Gordon talking to himself was strange. Now for the good things. I like how you changed the line in The Joker's video to "Are you Batman?". The way you change Bruce and Rachel's fall out of Wayne Tower building was fantastic! Thank you for that. Among other line's and exposition you took out this was a pretty good edit, but I hope you made a v2.
A quicker and leaner Dark Knight.
Gone is the fluff of supporting expositions and narratives and what remains in the wake is a less nonsense action film that most people probably wanted from the Dark Knight.
Stand outs of this edit include the Swat Tower scene. This was my favorite scene in the original cut and I thought for sure I would not like the cuts made, BUT upon watching this sequence I was pleasantly surprised. This edit shows Batman's agility, dexterity, and brilliance in a way that the original edit was unable to convey. The shear speed at which Batman executes each decision is amazingly clever and brilliant in this edit.
I did feel a little rushed visually with Batman's introduction in this edit. The cuts to eliminate copy cats and the karate chopping of the van felt hard and too fast in pace, ultimately leaving me in catch up mode while moving into the next scene. This is, I'm sure, partly the result of my watching this movie WAY too many times :) Besides these few hard cuts, the video editing was near flawless.
The only things I didn't really care for were a few audio edits/cuts and the narrative at times. Audio editing is always a struggle when making significant cuts and some of these pulled me out of a couple of scenes especially at Batman's introduction where the horns swelled then swelled again as Batman walked to the ledge of the descending car park, and at the end when key moments of Hans Zimmer's score were cut out to omit Gordon's son and rearrange the ending(which is my favorite narrative part). This edit made me unsure as to who Gordon was talking to at the end.
I really enjoy the moral struggle and tension of the ferry scene, and while I agree it may be drawn out, I feel it is essential to the final conclusion of Batman and the Joker's confrontation. I've always felt the movie was analyzing whether or not humans are inherently good, and this scene is the thesis statement of the film. I really missed this part and felt the climax of the Tower scene fell a little flat in terms of conclusion and resolution because of these cuts.
Ultimately I really enjoyed the alternate take and speed of this edit as I feel I saw the story more in the immediate moment and through the hero's eyes. While I don't agree with many of the cuts made in this edit, I applaud NJVC for taking the risk to show us all a leaner Dark Knight and to give me a real sense of excitement and anticipation in waiting to watch this edit. Thank you NJVC