Hook - The way you (want to) remember it

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Faneditor Name:
Tagline:
"To live would be an awfully big adventure."
Original Movie Title:
Fanedit Type:
Original Release Date:
1991
Original Running Time:
142
Fanedit Release Date:
Fanedit Running Time:
109
Time Cut:
34
Time Added:
1
Subtitles Available?
Available in HD?
Brief Synopsis:
HOOK has enough flaws that it shouldn't work. But it does! The good parts pack enough emotional punch to carry the movie. This edit retains those good parts, cuts over half-an-hour of weak parts, tidies up much in between, and adds two deleted scenes. It keeps Peter's character development front and center, makes his and Hook's characters more consistent, and vastly improves the pacing.
Intention:
HOOK plucks my heart-strings every time, from seeing it in the cinema in '92 through making this fanedit. Yet it has so many flaws that I have a love-hate relationship with it.

My biggest issue is whether Peter is a big-shot lawyer who lacks imagination, or an insecure accountant who is worried to offend other people's sensibilities. I know what the script says, but I honestly can't tell from Williams' performance.

Next is Hook: Hoffman gives us moments of a pitch-perfect villain to be feared and taken serious, persuading us that the threat to Peter is real and dangerous. But those are mixed with a caricature of Disney's inept cartoon Hook, playing-for-laughs as the Hook & Smee comedic duo, and a depressed old man. Is Hook a villain I should love to hate, or one I should pity? The result is a little of both, but a lot of neither.

Then there's Spielberg. The man is brilliant at his trade, but here he seems distracted. Peter and Hook aren't the only uneven parts. He left in continuity errors (the kids' bedroom door has Hook's scratch, then doesn't, then does again), make-up mistakes (in two pick-up shots Thud Butt is clearly older), and odd time-management where some transitions take much longer than needed without pay-off, while others feel jumpy as if a cutaway shot was left out (the Mermaids under Hook's ship > Peter being hoisted up to the Lost Boys). Spielberg was possibly also distracted by his regret over not making this a musical (Williams’ gorgeous score certainly rises to that challenge).

HOOK, THE WAY YOU (WANT TO) REMEMBER IT excises most of these frustrating parts. The narrative is tighter, the pacing improved, the characters less ambivalent.
Other Sources:
- Teaser sourced from 35mm scan posted by Hook-Movie.com.
- Some musical transitions from the soundtrack CD (Expanded La-La-Land edition).
Special Thanks:
Everyone on Hook's forum thread, especially Dwight Fry and DigModiFicaTion, for their suggestions and feedback.
Release Information:
Digital
Special Features
1080p (2.40:1)
5.1 AC3
English subtitles
Cuts and Additions:
- Use the original Teaser as opening credits (the magnifying glass gliding over the map).
- Cut opening shots of school audience so the film opens on stage.
- Cut baseball game and Peter's office.
- Trim airplane, to make Peter less scared, remove reference to (now cut) videotape, and improve pacing. The airplane captain's announcement (voiced by Hook!) is mostly retained.
- Mute/trim part of Peter's grumbling on snowy steps at Wendy's house.
- Trim Jack telling Wendy what work Peter does, for pacing.
- Cut Peter going into empty kids room, for pacing. Put Moira line over exterior shot.
- Trim Peter-Moira dialog before she throws out his phone, for pacing.
- Trim to Wendy telling her bedtime story, for pacing.
- Trims when putting kids to bed, for pacing and to make Peter a little less frantic.
- Mute Wendy's prayer to keep the kids safe that night, too obvious.
- Cut scarily lit shots when kids get kidnapped. Instead, the only foreboding shot that's retained during the gala dinner is the dog barking.
- Cut Peter making fun of driver's name.
- Trim / mute a few pointless lines in Wendy's bedroom.
- Trim Peter in kids room, for pacing.
- Trim some weak Peter shots on Hook's deck.
- Add cutaway shot between the Mermaids and Peter being hoisted up to the Lost Boys (using later cut shots of Tinkerbell and a Lost Boy).
- Many cuts and trims in Lost Boys home. Less clueless sniveling (see the pattern?), no skateboards, tighter pacing.
- Cut Hook's plea-for-attention from Smee, and trim remainder of scene for pacing.
- Add deleted scene of Lost Boys introducing themselves to Peter, trim part of the original exchange, to make Peter look less scared and Rufio less insecure.
- Trim Hook's school lesson.
- Cut Maggie telling Jack that Neverland makes you forget, because she's wrong! It makes you forget (track of) time, not memories. E.g. Thud Butt remembers his mom, Tink and Hook remember Pan as a kid. If Neverland is an escapism construct, then it makes sense why Hook wants no clocks on the island: he wants you to lose track of time so that you'll stay in Neverland!
- Small trims to Neverfeast dinner, for pacing and to reduce Rufio's jealousy.
- Cut young Wendy's song: wrong sentiment here, song is placed over second half of end credits.
- Cut 'mom' mention from Peter / Thud Butt talk, because she's no longer shown in the flashback.
- Cut ticking clocks in Hook's clock museum, making Hook less silly.
- Cut pirate killed at baseball game: it's funny but Jack doesn't react to it at all, that's just not right! Trim more bits of the baseball game for pacing.
- Cut mom and jealous Tink from Peter's flashback, to tighten the narrative.
- Cut flying Peter undoing Rufio's pants.
- Cut kid 'surfing' past at end of Peter getting sword back.
- Cut big Tink, including Peter forgetting about his kids immediately after he rediscovers that they're his happy thought. Feels inconsistent: if Neverland makes you forget such important stuff that quickly, how could anyone remember their name?
- Cut the shorter of two times fat boy rolls down stairs.
- Cut Rufio saying he wanted a daddy. It detracted from his death being the inspirational moment.
- Mute Hook's "Where are you going?". Twice, to make Hook less baffled.
- Mute Croc's growl and burp. I prefer to think that Hook ceased to exist because everyone stopped believing in him. Like the Neverfeast food: if you don't believe, it doesn't exist.
- Mute Peter's 'thank you for believing' as he leaves Neverland.
- Trim kids returning to their bedroom.
- Add very short deleted scene of Peter returning to London, to replace the scene with Smee as a street sweeper (that raised so many questions, it distracted from the story).
- Small trims when Toodles gets his marbles, for pacing.
- Replaced the second part of the end credits music with "When You're Alone". Replaced non-scrolling part of the credits to fit the new length of the music.
- Use AC3 audio track from the 4K disc because I find the sound stage a bit cleaner than the 1080p blu-ray's DTS track (from an editing perspective it makes no difference: neither has a clean center channel).
- Add English subtitles. Note: The blu-ray's subtitles were a lazy/cheap job with style inconsistencies. It missed small bits of dialog that aren't essential to the story but add flavor to the characters.
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(Updated: April 02, 2022)
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Would be difficult to believe that more than half an hour has been removed from this film, no loss at all of narrative coherence. Since I only saw it once (and at least fifteen years ago) just a few absences stuck out immediately, big Tinkerbell, the baseball game at the beginning and the "scarily lit shots when kids get kidnapped". I was surprised when my first reaction to the latter was of disappointment, I suppose that this particular sequence left a greater impression on a young me than I thought, but on reflection and comparison I think that it rather does give away a bit too much and dilute the suspense.

Otherwise this edit lives up to its title and was a nice revisit, only just realised that this film contains the embodiment of Prince Zuko while the 2004 live-action "proper" adaptation of Peter Pan (the one I grew up with) stars Admiral Zhao as Hook himself! The purist in me wonders though if there could be a way of altering Tinkerbell's statement about the way to Neverland back to "Second to the right and straight on till morning." (is it a coincidence that Star Trek VI from the same year features the same "incorrect" line?), never saw the Disney animated version this references and the modification from the original irrationally irks me!

Technically excellent, only issues I noticed were a couple of audio cuts (80 mins in, bookending the shot of Peter looking over the cliff where he says "I have a plan") sounding a little abrupt. Thank you lapis molari for sharing your work!

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I live in a household divided on the subject of Hook, as I don't have the love for it that a lot of my generational cohort does (although weirdly, I remember liking the comic adaptation a lot), and my partner counts it as one of her favourite childhood films. Well, I came away really impressed by how coherent and streamlined lapis managed to make the character arcs in the film, although Julia Roberts' Tinkerbell gets shortchanged a bit, I'm OK with that as her crush on Peter was nonsensical and slightly off-putting anyway. Nevertheless, she does seem rather surplus to the film now. Anyway, Dustin Hoffman gets to shine as the good captain, Robin Williams is less pathetic and more just a beleaguered but likeable yuppie dad, and Bob Hoskins' Smee steals the show, as he should. The title sequence lifted from a trailer is a vast improvement as well.

And ultimately my ladyfriend, as expected by the title, found Hook every bit as good as she remembered -- if not better.

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Enjoyed this edit greatly!

Lapis got rid of the bloat and some of the goofiness to the film. Like the daughters song, bloated baseball scenes, and the jealous tink subplot.

Only issue would be to let the Rufio death scene go the full length.

Excellent cut!

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Audio/Video Quality: 9/10
The video looks great and completely what you would expect from the file size. I know you said you used the AC3 from the 4k and mentioned that it was the soundstage audio. I've never heard this mix and it's pretty different than the DTS that I'm used to I guess. It's not an audio issue, but I definitely prefer the other mix as it feels like it has a bit more life as well as softness to it.

Visual Editing:
There are moments where the cuts didn't quite work for me as some scenes felt like they were a bit too tightly packed together and needed some breathing room. The deleted scene was fun to see. It didn't quite match the coloring and contrast of the movie, but it did add a bit of Neverland nostalgia.
I like the faster pace of the final battle, but there was a bit of feeling like it was edited due to some audio edits that gave away some of the visual cuts.
The ending deleted scene of Peter somersaulting over the car was something I'd never seen before. Like the other one, I think the color was slightly over saturated. The visual editing to remove Peter's hesitation/focus on his job were executed well and helped move the scenes forward and focus more on Peter's potential to become Pan as there is still hope that he hasn't fully grown up. 8/10

Audio Editing:
Most all of the visual cuts worked well and those that didn't often were a case of the audio betraying that something was changed. There were also some drastic changes in intensity of scenes and music that perhaps could be smoothed out a bit more. 6.5/10

Narrative:
The only real issue I had with the narrative of this is the omission of the baseball game. I get the intention to remove it, but removing it left it feeling like something was missing for me. I think there is possibly a way to abbreviate the scene to get through it a bit faster. It doesn't disrupt the narrative flow as there is no mention by Jack or Hook that Peter missed Jack's baseball game later in the movie. This is an excellent example of show don't tell during the scene in the museum by Lapis Molari to make this edit choice work.
The removal of the abduction scene worked fantastically. I really liked the mystery it creates and the increased sinister disturbance not knowing it was magical/ridiculous looking when they were abucted. Great work here! I wasn't too sure about the removal, but it improved the scene :)
The removal of Big Tink, but the retaining of "I have a plan" felt jarring narratively. I think it would work to jump from Rufio acknowledging Peter is the Pan straight over to the lost boys prepping for war.
The removal of Tink and Smee in the real world was a GREAT idea and executed very well :)
I liked most of the narrative changes, but missed others 8/10

Enjoyment:
Some scenes feel a bit rushed, but that's most likely because I've memorized this movie from watching it so much. When I read "the way you want to remember it" for me that means from the eyes of a child. I ate up all the ridiculousness. This being one of my favoirte movies, I know that I'm majorly biased against doign anythign to it, but I love to have my perceptions challenged. For the most part this edit accomplished things that I didn't think were going to work. I did miss Maggie's song as the music uses that cue throughout to bridge the gap between Neverland and home for the kids.
I still teared up at the end so ofcourse I enjoyed this :)
Due to some editing choices that I personally would have liked to see stay and some audio cuts that stick out to my ears, my enjoyment score is currently a 7/10. With some adjustments to the audio this would easily raise to an 8/10.
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A wonderful bloat-free edit of a Spielberg classic.
This edit is a major improvement over the original, and removes almost all of the cringe from it. The trims are seamless and added deleted scenes are integrated well. The all-in-all result is a fun adventure film for the entire family.
I personally would have preferred an edit which will further trim the mermaids kissing Peter and reintegrate some of Rufio's scenes, but that's me.
To sum - a highly recommended edit.

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