Dark Knight Saga Recut, The - Part I

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(Updated: August 21, 2014)
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An excellent fanedit! Fans of Nolan's Bat Trilogy will love this cut, much tighter and less groan-worthy. I didn't "agree" with every cut, but no major harm was done. The only nitpick is (as others have mentioned also) the de-emphasis on "It's not who you are underneath..." Mainly because now Rachel realizes he's Batman because "oh, he said 5 short words in an ungravelly voice."

Other than that, this was super-groovy!

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Owner's reply August 20, 2014

Thanks Neg! Less groan worthy was certainly the intention, so that is a great outcome. Your comment about Rachel/Bruce's dialogue makes it 3 mentions among the reviews, so certainly close to earning a slightly modified version for a few viewers. Again, I'd be happy to do that, as it would be a five minute adjustment. Personally, I can't handle the "it's what I doooo that defines me". Talk about groan worthy, for me that's near the top of the list. Let me know if you'd be interested in a v2 with those bits back in, or if you're content with v1 as is.

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This one does replace the original for me. I had read the previous reviews before watching this edit and was prepared for feeling like something would be missing from the Rachel and Bruce relationship, but for me, those fears were totally unfounded.
There were exactly 2 things in this edit that felt the tiniest bit off and they were: I was slightly thrown by Bruce being in jail and then suddenly being tossed out of a truck at the bottom of a mountain. (It has been a while since I watched the original, so for all I remember, this is what happened in the original as well). And the other, was Rachel apologizes for saying some "terrible things" to Bruce at the very end, but I don't recall her doing that. But in this watching experience it is easy to assume whatever it was was off screen and in their past.
Other than that, this is a pretty damned flawless edit and was a much more fun movie to watch than it was originally. An easy recommendation from me!

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Owner's reply August 19, 2014

Thanks for the review anarchemist, great to hear such positive feedback. You're right about the transition from the prison to the road, that is unedited from the original, and I agree it is a little sudden. As for Rachel's, "I said terrible things", she is referring to their conversation in the car after Joe Chill is murdered. She tells him that his father would be ashamed of him, and that he should look beyond his own pain. This is why she acknowledges at the end of the film that she was wrong, and that Bruce's father would indeed be very proud of him. Cheers for watching and reviewing!

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Audio/Video quality was top notch, I didn't see any issues

I agree with dangermouse for the most part. I don't agree with your cutting most of Rachel and Bruce's dialog, since while it was a little awkward and clumsy, it was also very important to the story and establishes the theme of "the Bat or the Man". I also am a fan of the hallucination scenes, so I personally would like to see them here. Also, SWEAR TO ME is a classic line. That needs to come back.

Much like dangermouse I can't say this will replace Batman Begins for me, if you have a second version that addresses his complaints, then absolutely it would. However, I still recommend this cut, because it really does go a long way to addressing a lot of the issues the original had.

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Owner's reply August 19, 2014

Hey soufihadi, thank you for your review :) Putting back in the scene with Rachel and Bruce and the "Swear to Me" line would be pretty easy. If there's enough interest in that, I'll put out another version in the future. I can guarantee I won't be putting the CGI hallucinations back in though! You'll have to go back to the original for that... ;)

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This won't be a long review. I watched the entire trilogy this weekend and thought that NJVC made all the right cuts from all three.

Audio / Video quality was superb and I detected no problem cuts whatsoever.

When I'm itchin' for some Dark Knight this is what I will watch.

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Owner's reply August 18, 2014

Thank you for the short and sweet review Fanedit! Glad you enjoyed it.

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It was a solid cut, to be sure, but I'd have to say I liked the original better. I watched this cut because although I loved Batman Begins and The Dark Knight, I feel that the trilogy as a whole does not feel like one cohesive work (and also, I'd love to see a cleaned-up version of The Dark Knight Rises, which I feel was the weakest of the trilogy). So I'm still planning on watching the rest of The Dark Knight Saga Recut and seeing what I think of it, but I'll definitely be going back to the theatrical cut next time I want to watch Batman Begins. I felt that a lot of the things NJVC cut made the narrative more confusing. I remembered why Batman was trying to stop the train at the end from the theatrical cut, but my wife was confused. All of the explanation for why the train needed to be stopped was cut out (unless I missed something, but reading through the cutlist afterwards, it seems that it was indeed all cut out). Additionally, I think that a lot of the humor that was cut really added to the movie, but that's definitely a matter of opinion and I can understand why NJVC cut it. But I personally missed it.
I will say that I did appreciate the color correction. This does look better than the original. And the edit was very professionally done. As I said, solid edit, it's just not for me.

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Owner's reply October 12, 2015

Thanks for the review Son of Suns, sorry to hear it wasn't for you. Just a quick note on the train explanation, Batman does indeed explain the need to stop the train in this cut, when he first arrives in The Narrows. He explains to Gordon that they'll be using the train to disperse the water supply and that he'll stop the train, but needs Gordon's help.

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