Star Wars - Rogue One: Where Rebels DareFeatured
- Star Wars (Harmy's Despecialized Edition)
- Prometheus Blu-Ray
- Rogue One Soundtrack
- Attack of the Clones Soundtrack
- Return of the Jedi Soundtrack
Thanks to the following for their help draughting the crawl text: DigModiFicaTion, Canon Editor, DSM2337, darthrush, SkywalkerFan01, Moe_Syzlak, addiesin, theryaney, Flubly and Garp.
Thanks to theryaney and jswert123456 for their awesome alternate DVD/Blu-Rays covers.
Thanks also to everybody who offered feedback and encouragement in the project thread: The Scribbling Man, Zarius, darksteel1335, ThrowgnCpr, Nic, ssj, DominicCobb, thecuddlyninja, Last Impressions, lapis molari, Detective, octoroxx, Nerdman3000, Kal-El, dkerin and Weekly Wackadadoo.
- Blu-Ray (BD-25)
- 1920x800p MKV - 12GB - AC3 - 448kbs
- 1280x534p MP4 - 4GB - AC3 - 448kbs
(All formats include 6 short alternate scenes as a bonus)
- Added new custom-made traditional Star Wars style opening. Fox style fanfare, green Lucasfilm logo, SW logo, custom crawl, pan down etc.
- Reordered opening act, which I felt was choppy in the original version. Now we do not return to older Jyn until it's time for her to be rescued and time for her story to begin again. Death Star scene has also been brought forward to establish the threat, before we see how others are responding to that threat. I think these changes make things clearer.
- Reordered some parts of the final battle to help pacing and logic.
- Reordered a few other scenes throughout the edit in small ways to help the story.
- Added traditional style wipes to points where I felt it was appropriate. Large shifts in time, or in location etc.
- Removed all onscreen titles naming the various planets, as this is not something done in any other Star Wars film.
- Removed or altered a few distracting "fan service" moments including the Dr. Evazan/Ponda Baba cameo, Red-5's death and the entire encounter between Vader and Krennic.
00.00.32 - Added custom Disney/Fox titlecard, created by youtube's Timon Berkowitz. Trimmed to match Original-Trilogy (OT) timing, cropped to scope, added animated clouds and regraded to look more "vintage". Music from Harmy's Despecialized Edition (DE).
00.00.39 - Replaced modern Lucasfilm logo with custom-made old green 1977 style version.
00.00.49 - Replaced "A long time ago..." titlecard with custom-made one. Matched closer to style of original 1977 version but with clean blue to mirror closing Rogue One (R1) credits (which I've also recoloured).
00.00.56 - Added custom-made traditional Star Wars logo, timed to exactly match look and movement-speed of 1977 original but with a modern R1 starfield.
00.01.04 - Added custom-made crawl timed to match the crawls of the OT as closely as I could (thanks to DigModiFicaTion for his crawl text creation guide and helpful advice). Music from 'Attack of the Clones' opening as it segues smoothly into R1 existing score.
00.02.23 - Added pan-down timed frame-by-frame to the DE 1977 reference.
00.02.27 - Added custom-made pan-down establishing FXshot with Stardestroyer (SD), tiny moving Krennic shuttle and wide shot of Lah' Mu (ringed planet graphic created by deviantart.com's vissroid. Regraded and adjusted).
00.02.37 - Trimmed beginning of first shuttle shot to remove pan-up and added reverse angle of SD and rings overlay.
00.03.44 - Altered blue-milk shot so the camera pans with Lyra's movement across the kitchen, instead of zooming right in on the milk, which I found to be distracting.
00.09.25 - Trimmed Saw's lines and instead we fade from young Jyn gazing up to a starfield.
00.09.47 - Added custom-made pan-down FXshot featuring a new establishing shot of the completed Death Star (DS), with animated dish and SDs. Plus "13 years later...." title. SoundFX and music replaced with 'Krennic's Aspirations' from the R1 score (which is otherwise unused in this fanedit).
00.09.54 - Added another custom-made FXshot of the DS. Animated SDs, dish and shadow from the dish.
00.09.57 - Reordered and trimmed shots of SDs to work better with the new music and sequence. Also ending on a SD close-up is more logical since that is where we next see Krennic and Tarkin.
00.10.07 - Adjusted shot of Tie flying over SD so the camera tracks the SD and not the little Tie
00.10.11 - Brought forward DS opening scene to be our new intro into the present-day and to establish the threat, before we see others react to that threat. This also serves to not interrupt the main Jyn plot later on.
00.11.42 - Added wipe to cropped shot of Jedha, with title removed (First Cassian scene moved to later).
00.12.57 - Added wipe to cropped shot of Kafrene
00.13.06 - Rescored and replaced soundFX to opening Kafrene shots.
00.15.04 - Rescored end of Cassian scene with 'Wobani Imperial Labor Camp' from the R1 score to increase the emotion as he murderes the Rebel spy and to have a dramatic music cue into the first scene with older Jyn. SoundFX also replaced.
00.15.21 - Added new establishing shot of Wobani terrain, taken from 'Prometheus'. Regraded and soundFX new added.
00.15.26 - Brought forward Jyn's flashback dream-sequence and mixed it over Jyn asleep in the prison.
00.16.12 - Replaced soundFX in prison waking scene and replaced music with 'Star-Dust' from the R1 score. Added Stormtrooper dialogue sample from '77 Star Wars.
00.16.52 - Cropped shot of labour camp to remove title. This the dream sequence and prison scene now form an uninterrupted and stronger re-introduction to older Jyn.
00.18.07 - Added wipe to shot of Yavin with title painted out.
00.19.05 - Moved shot of Cassian in the shadows from the random place it was at, to just before Mon Mothma introduces him. Minor remixing of audio to allow this change.
00.24.33 - Added wipe to shot of Saw walking.
00.26.16 - Added iris-wipe to shot of Jyn. Transition Rescored and soundFX replaced.
00.29.53 - Removed distracting fan-service cameo from Dr. Evazan and Ponda Baba.
00.41.06 - Brought forward scene where Bodi is discovered in the cell, to form one unbroken scene of the Rebels locked up. Added music from guards. This brings focus to the discussion between Cassian and Chirrut and means that the Bodi scene does not interupt the DS powering up threat later on.
00.41.56 - Removed a couple of lines between Cassian and Bodi and replaced it with SoundFX of Bodi breathing erratically, music and Cassian just smiling at having found the pilot.
00.45.35 - Removed a few shots and lines of the DS powering up to allow the move of the earlier Bodi scene. Music and SoundFX added.
00.53.28 - Brought forward short scene of Krennic leaving the DS, to just after he walks out on Tarkin, to make one longer scene. Replaced soundFX and rescored with more of the otherwise unused 'Krennic's Aspirations' piece.
00.53.45 - Added wipe to shot of Yavin.
00.54.17 - Added iris-wipe to shot of the U-Wing. Added a little more engine noise (from an X-Wing) to have more impact.
00.57.13 - Added wipe to cropped and flipped shot of Eadu. Camera adjusted so the ship tracks the speed of the wipe. Remixed sound.
00.57.20 - Flipped two shots of the U-Wing to match altered Eadu planet shot.
00.58.24 - Added more radio static to further blur the line between the impact sound and Rebel communicator.
00.58.40 - Brought forward scene of X-Wings launching to more believably give them time to arrive at Eadu. Added music.
00.58.49 - Added iris-wipe to shot of U-Wing. Added storm soundFX.
01.00.43 - Replaced all soundFX during this Chirrut transition to cover the move of the music-heavy X-Wing launch scene.
01.13.43 - Removed the whole Vader/Krennic encounter sequence (one part retained for later). I found it annoying and fan-servicey. The suit doesn't look right, the dialogue is laughable, it distracts from the main plot and it serves zero narrative purpose. Also it furthers the diminishing of Krennic's character if both Tarkin and Vader are belittling him.
01.13.44 - Added wipe to shot of Yavin. Replaced all soundFX and music
01.13.47 - Removed first 30-seconds of Rebel meeting. The Rebel leaders were shown being defeatist to a silly extreme. The scene now begins with Radus saying "If she's telling the truth, we need to act now!", then we hear more reasoned arguments for inaction. Added background arguing soundFX.
01.19.03 - Removed a few seconds of Bodi dithering too long over the 'Rogue One' call sign.
01.20.11 - Added wipe to shot of transport in Hyperspace. Added extra soundFX.
01.20.13 - Cropped shot of Scarif to remove onscreen title.
01.23.06 - Removed unearned reference to Saw during Jyn's motivational speech. This also helps Jyn's speech be more low-key and believable.
01.30.31 - Brought forward scene of K-2S0 hitting the Imperial guy. Added more door soundFX.
01.30.43 - Removed a couple of shots of Bodi and replaced soundFX and music.
01.31.29 - Added completely recut brief version of the earlier Vader/Bacta scene to sit just after Tarkin says "...inform Lord Vader". So this is him being informed. This way he naturally enters the film at a point where he becomes important to the plot. Recut shots to remove dialogue. Almost totally replaced soundFX and music with the opening Imperial March from 'Return of the Jedi'.
01.31.59 - Replaced radio-static soundFX and music leading into Yavin scene.
01.33.06 - Replaced all soundFX and music during the cameo shot of R2 and Threepio. Replaced 2016 Anthony Daniels screaming "Scarif!" (which I never liked) with typical vintage Droid bickering sourced from the 1978 Oscars Ceremony. So Threepio now says "Behave yourself R2. Of course. I'm just as excited as you are. Now do be quiet" with R2 making beeps in response.
01.35.41 - Added anti-clockwise rotation to camera for two pilot shots just before they go into a roll to their right.
01.35.43 - Removed pilot saying "We won't have long" because the actor delivers it with zero emotion. Added soundFX
01.36.14 - Removed a few seconds of X-Wings flying about and brought forward X-Wings attacking the Imperial walkers. This way they arrive to the rescue less than a minute after they enter the shield gate (originally the gap was over 2-minutes which felt odd). Added soundFX.
01.37.01 - Rescored new transition to K-2S0 saying "The fleet has arrived". This is another benefit of having the X-Wings arrive earlier because now this line from K isn't quite as random and omnipresent.
01.37.08 - Removed Jyn saying "What does that mean?" because she answers her own question a second later and it was silly thing to say.
01.38.10 - Rescored and replaced soundFX across new transition from Jyn to Bodi.
01.40.41 - Brought forward scenes of U-Wings deploying troops. Added soundFX and music.
01.41.18 - Removed 30-second chunk from the space battle for three reasons. 1. It contained footage of the x-wings bombing the actual shield (rather than the shield generators) and expressing surprise at it's lack of effectiveness (which seemed silly to me). 2. The "How much more can that thing take?" line is very poorly delivered. 3. The whole fan-servicey Red5's death bit.
01.44.16 - Added glitchy "Cas...si...an" line to final shot of K-2S0 as I always felt it was missing from the moment after he says "Goodbye". If I could have changed it to "I love you Cas...si...an" I would have LOL. "Goodbye" was too short for what felt like strong friendship.
01.48.42 - Removed a couple of seconds of Chirrut fumbling for the switch. It stretched credibility that he could use the force to survive intense crossfire and locate a panel across a battlefield but then not to find a switch right in front of him.
01.52.19 - Removed silly 20-second scene of Jyn climbing through a giant Cigar cutter. It smacked of that "choppy-crushy things" scene from Galaxy Quest. Now we just see her starting to climb up the tower, then we see her as she finishes climbing the tower. It's hardly a stretch to imagine how she got there.
01.54.51 - Removed Jyn saying "You know who I am" because it's cliched, undeserved and Krennic genuinely doesn't know who she is, having never met Jyn before (maybe he met her as a kid but it's not shown). Remixed music.
02.01.21 - Graded final Tantive IV scenes to look as close to the 1977 opening as possible.
02.01.46 - Retimed iris-wipe to credits to time with the Tantive IV going to hyperspace and not a few seconds after.
02.09.52 - Replaced end Lucasfilm logo with same vintage green style one from the start.
02.10.02 - Added animated thank you fanedit titles with DS plan graphics. Added DS computer soundFX.
- 3rd act is the best part of the film, and it is mostly intact from the original.
- Boring character stories and arcs left intact.
- Saw Gerrera... just his character... ugh!
- The Rebellion/Resistance comes over as a bunch of whiners.
In my honest opinion, the Fan Edit "The Battle of Scarif" is a better fit for this movie. I just can't get through the first 2 acts of this movie. This is not the fault of the Editor, but of the Creators of the movie itself. The characters are bland and boring, the story is to convenient and nonsensical, and last but not least, this movie didn't need to exist. It's a badly explained plot that just derails the Epic Battle in the final act. The editor did his best to make the movie watchable, and for some it has become just that... watchable. That is not enough for me.
Overview - The Rebel Alliance (without any Bothans), pursues a trail as thin as a spider’s thread.
The Empire has a purported “planet killer,” though a rumor whispers there may be a design flaw.
“Rogue” is better than “Farce Awakens,” but I couldn’t like it. The story was clunky, characters were self-absorbed stiffs, and the script seems to idle for an hour before kicking into overdrive.
Still, I had faith in TM2YC. If anyone could redeem this almost gem, I thought he could.
Video - 1280 X 534p AVC. Editing and rearranging is first rate. I rarely noticed changes, and when I did they definitely seemed to tighten the story, improve the pace, or cut the nonsense. I liked what was done here.
Audio - 448 kbps AC-3. 2 Channel stereo. No subs. Dialogue is murky throughout. Whether on Lah'mu, Jedha or Eadu, conversations are a hit n miss affair. Galen Erso, in particular, is seldom the most clear. Events that occur on Yavin or Scarif, however, are generally well miked.
Being a Star Wars tentpole, 5.1 sound would be particularly welcome. I’ll get back to that.
Neither her nor there, an audio commentary could have useful to aspiring editors, explaining work processes.
Narrative - This is a tremendous improvement! The story is unchanged, though considerably tighter. From the opening crawl to delaying Vader’s arrival, all changes strike me as for the better. I found the original fan-service moments patronizing and applaud any removal. I still see a continuity problem of C3PO and R2D2 chilling on Yavin while the Alliance fleet deploys. When did they board Tantive IV?
Enjoyment - The full file included a cutlist (thanks) as well as alternate scenes (most generous). I really like this edit. A lot. The 2.0 stereo left a lot to be desired. TM2YC is one of the site’s best editors, I am certain this is in his skill sets. Moreover, this is Star Wars. I am watching at home on a large set with surround speakers and sub woofer, not on my phone with earbuds. Improve the audio and this would displace my Disney version of “Rogue One.”
Any Rogue One fan-edit that manages to give it more of a classic Star Wars-esque feel while still flawlessly showing how this is much more of a straight-up war film than the other installments in the franchise can't be that bad, can it? As much as I adore the original Rogue One, I do think this edit flows better in terms of plot and story and the altered scene order allows you to care about the characters more than in the theatrical cut. As usual with a TM2YC edit, the audio and video editing are absolutely seamless. If you're a Rogue One fan, you'll love this. If you're not a fan, I still recommend giving this a chance.
This is another strong Rogue One edition.
I personally simply like the original Rogue One THAT much so it's almost impossible to improve it for me. I don't think any of these Rogue One edits actually really improve the film (for me) but they have slightly different takes on the movie.
This one changes Rogue One quite a bit. I really liked how the Empire fleet is presented in the early stage of the movies. Great job there. Majority of the other changes were good as well but I personally didn't care how Darth Vader was presented. Something about it felt a bit odd. Maybe because it was in the middle of the battle. No big deal though. Bor Gullet should have been cut.
Very good job on this one.
I hate to give 10 stars for visual editing nowadays after the Adywan's Empire Strikes Back fanedit because it was a true masterpiece but there you go.
Really, really enjoyed this. Looks and sounds great. Highly recommend. Thanks for taking the time to make it!