In The Mouth Of Event Horizon
- NTSC DVD-5
- Blu-Ray (BD-25)
1. A shift between the movies. Generally, anytime Trent falls asleep, has a delusion, or is otherwise mentally overwhelmed, he transitions from one movie into the other for a brief period of time.
2. Many individual horror elements are replaced using a variety of special effects techniques in order to have the 'Event Horizon' world invade the world of 'In the Mouth of Madness'.
-Inserted new on-screen text
-Inserted Event Horizon core clips
-Cut closeups of “Coming Soon: In the Mouth of Madness” on book jacket
-Edited “you haven’t read it yet” montage to include EH frames
-Inserted a trimmed version of Sam Neill exiting the stasis tank on EH
-Cut a scene before this scene with Neill investigating another unrelated case
-Cut newscaster referencing “In the Mouth of Madness”
-Cut unnecessary tv background talk at end of scene
-Cut some closeups of the coffee cup that are too easily readible.
-Shortened scene to remove the cop beating the bum, which is no longer needed due to edits to next scene.
-Replaced dream sequences with EH clips
-Removed the double wake up jump scare
-Inserted/Edited the falling asleep and waking up audio cues
-This scene was previously very long with ~6 different weird or scary things happening which was far more than needed. The number and length were cut in half to move the story along faster.
-Replaced the cyclist with the EH spaceship in windshield, side window, and rear view mirror
-Removed the crash since it’s too early for Trent to start seeing weird things, better if it’s only Stiles for awhile.
-Edited bridge montage to include the EH engine room tunnel
-Replaced painting using masks, motion tracking, and various color/effects to make it look like a painting and not just screenshots.
-Rotoscoped EH’s Justin (who was captured in the opening credits) in place of little Johnny (the dad’s look of confusion is admittedly justifiable, it’s a pretty weird sight.)
-More artwork special effects, painting moved off the wall.
-I did nothing to this scene because “today is mommy’s day” is the corniest, most stereotypical horror line in the whole movie...so it had to stay.
Trent reading in bed:
-trimmed scene to remove legible ItMoM text.
-edit Linda in church to remove an out of place sound effect from source material.
-Edited first page text to show correct title, motion tracked for camera motion.
-Edited montage to instead show the fate of the Event Horizon’s original crew
-Removed rescue crew footage and dialogue from the EH clips
-More artwork special effects
-replaced the old lady as a monster in the basement with the surgical room of Event Horizon, and associated gore.
-Mixed in footage of Trent using EH as an escape from unbearable parts of this reality.
Car ride out of town:
-Inserted to EH clips of Neill’s internal monologue, being trapped. Glow matching between the 2 films..
-Edited the montage to insert scenes of his dead wife from EH, foreshadowing her importance, and suggesting he’s “not seeing” or blocking something out of his memory.
-Shortly after “All done”, removed Sutter Cane saying ItMoM.
-Interspersed the escape through the tunnel with the EH tunnel escape
-Edited book title, tracked with camera bouncing
-replaced blue bus false wakeup with the EH maintenance tunnels, which were retinted from green to blue
-This EH clip is made much scarier by using some ItMoM background surround sound instead of the EH music.
-replaced the background poster, rotoscope/motion tracking
-Cropped frames where ItMoM was easily readable
-Cropped frames where ItMoM was easily readable
-Cut audio of announcers mentioning ItMoM.
-Inserted the source of Trent’s torment, his wife’s suicide from EH, which he finally remembers/unblocks.
-Right when he think’s he’s gonna be ok, combined and inserted Neill’s EH declaration of going to hell
-Note - Left a clear image of Laurence Fishburne that is out of place and potentially confusing for a viewer, who’s this guy, why’s he there. This is purely an easter egg. He’s a co-star and deserved to be in this movie somewhere, even though his character was cut.
-trimmed the beginning of this scene to avoid showing the huge curved marquee which had a very difficult to remove ItMoM sign.
-Inserted 3 different posters and banners using motion tracking, masks, and rotoscoping. In the Mouth of Event Horizon blu-ray cover is used as basis for a poster, the Fanedit.org banner is used as a marquee banner, and my previous edit The West Wing: The 25th Amendment also has its poster in the background.
-Edited montage to include EH clips
-Changed final seconds to end the movie in EH instead of ItMoM.
-Inserted “Fanedited by RollWave” scrolling credit
This is an inspired fanedit! "In The Mouth of Madness" is a wonderful film, Carpenter's last great movie, and while this edit doesn't try to replace it, it gives it a fun new twist. There are a couple niggles, points that the rotoscoping/motion-tracking looked too obvious or slightly twitchy, but the majority of the work is solid and impressive. Recommended for horror fans.
The idea of In the Mouth of Event Horizon, I think, sounds good on paper but in practice didn't work as well as I'd hoped. Both films star Sam Neill, and both movies focus on his characters descent into madness, but that's where the similarities end.
It was basically watching In the Mouth of Madness with bits of Event Horizon sprinkled in. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but it begs the question as to why? If it doesn't improve and/or change the narrative I'm not sure what the point was, and this edit accomplishes neither. The shots from Event Horizon don't add anything to Carpenter's film.
That's not to say this is a bad edit. The video and audio quality are fine and I didn't notice any cuts. The special effect changes were really well done and to be honest I was quite impressed by them. That said, I didn't feel like I was watching anything different than "In the Mouth of Madness".
I'm happy I watched this fanedit, I enjoyed it, though I feel the narrative suffered from the inclusion of "Event Horizon" since it didn't really add anything.
Do I recommend the edit? Sure. Why not? But I don't think it's one I need to see again.
Overview - An inspired concept here. Editing In The Mouth Of Madness, and adding sequences from Event Horizon. At first thought, one would doubt this would be a wise combination. Yet both films are major reality disconnects, and the linking device is focusing primarily on Sam Neill’s characters. Turns out RollWave is onto something.
Video - From smooth transitions to jarring, hard cuts, everything works. A few of the edits were diabolically clever, passageways in particular. Near the end, watch for visual easter eggs. Brilliant.
Audio - Very good work combining two different sound designs. I watched the mkv file and the sound was a detailed 5.1. Only problem I had was with sections of dialogue, particularly Jürgen Prochnow’s mumbling. I dialed the volume up, invariably just before an avalanche of sound. Can’t fault RollWave for this, but for those with sensitive eared roommates, be forewarned.
Narrative - This is not an equal sharing of movies. The burden of the edit is in Carpenter’s film, which is the far stronger film, in intelligence, in plot, in acting. All to the good. The additional scenes from Event Horizon enhance the breakdowns of characters. These are often hard cuts, but character reactions sync perfectly. The story of spiraling descent into derangement, individual and societal, stays on track throughout.
Enjoyment - I did not think I would like this. Wasn’t until I scanned favorable and insightful reviews that I took the plunge. This is not a replacement for Carpenter’s original film, but it is an astounding parallel version. For those who may be turned off by Event Horizon, the best scenes seemed to have been used, and inserted judiciously.
Most entertaining, intelligent Horror labyrinth. Superlative effort.
This edit is an absolute blast! This is best seen without spoilers so I'll keep this review brief...
The blend of the two horror-movies is freaky as hell but never feels illogical. The FX shots are astounding, you would never know anything had been changed.
The altered painting and the intercutting of the corridor are jaw dropping. Plus it's always a total fanediting thrill to make a character from one movie, look at something from another movie... and this has that in spades!
One small negative would be the narrative, which is sometimes a bit hard to follow but I'm sure this is mostly down to the source movie (And probably deliberate, given the subject of insanity). Lastly, the editing of the visuals and the audio is both technically and creatively perfect.
Combining two different films to make a new viewing experience is nothing new in the fanediting world. We’re not talking using different entries of the same franchise here (ala Jaws 1 and Jaws 2 for example), but actually two entirely different movies. It’s no easy task as more often than not, whilst the final product can be fun and engaging it can suffer from a lack of narrative structure which ultimately makes the experiment an unsuccessful one.
As I approached Rollwave’s intriguing pairing of Paul Anderson’s Event Horizon with John Carpenter’s In the Mouth of Madness, I was therefore hoping this would be one of the few exceptions. I’d already been impressed by the trailer, which showed off some nifty after effects work to replace paintings and posters to help tie the films closer together, so I was pretty excited when I settled down to watch this with the missus.
Firstly, the quality of the picture on show here (I watched the DVD version) is top notch. The film stock used for both films seems similar enough that nothing stands out as odd or ill-fitting, and the audio levels between the footage used is nicely balanced and never draws attention to itself. I did notice a very slight glitch in the picture during the scene where one of Sutter Cane’s disciples (his agent I believe) breaks through the window, but I can’t be sure if this was due to a disc error of some kind, rather than the rendered video file itself. Otherwise, on the technical front this is a great looking and sounding edit.
On the narrative front, I was really impressed with how rollwave combined elements from Event Horizon into the visions which Trent sees during In the Mouth of Madness. Remarkably, by the time the film reaches its conclusion, I was suitably convinced that what I had witnessed was some weird director’s cut of the movie and you can’t really ask for more praise than that. Quite simply, it works.
If there is a slight criticism, I would say it’s the way the edit is presented in its DVD form. No menu of any kind, something which I do feel is important if you’re going to present a DVD version, and secondly having the fanedit credit “directed by John Carpenter and Paul Anderson”, and then leaving the actual film credit of “directed by John Carpenter” is just a little lazy in my opinion. Also, I would have liked some fan-made end credits for a project such as this.
That said, this is still a top notch fanedit and comes highly recommended. I look forward to see
what Rollwave hits us with next.