Groucho Marxist

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Groucho Marxist
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A Vaudeville Tragicomedy in 45 minutes,
"all that is solid melts into air"
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Original Release Date:
2019
Original Running Time:
122
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Fanedit Running Time:
46
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Brief Synopsis:
This edit aims to streamline Joker into a story of class struggle (though a bit of a tongue in cheek one) and less of a Scorsese pastiche superimposed on the Batman universe.
Intention:
Todd Phillip's original film touches on but never fully addresses a variety of concepts (daddy issues, what is comedy, romantic delusions about your neighbor, etc.). By refocusing on class themes and redirecting the use of violence/humor (such as motivations for violence), this edit hopes to present a clearer and less pitiful narrative arc for Arthur, as well as provide more room to laugh in the process.
Additional Notes:
I made most of this edit in about a day cause I thought Groucho Marxist was a funny name. I hope you enjoy watching as much as I did editing.
Special Thanks:
jrWHAG42 for the initial feedback that really helped refine the final cut.
Release Information:
Digital
Cuts and Additions:
- Added opening prologue of Groucho Marx from an interview on Firing Line with William F. Buckley Jr.: Is the World Funny?
- Removed romantic subplot with Sophie neighbor entirely.
- Moved Arthur’s stand up routine (originally after first murder) near the beginning of the film. This now serves to introduce his anxious laughing tick. Cut around Sophie as this was part of their date sequence.
- Removed subplot regarding Arthur’s quest for a father figure (i.e. fantasy scene with Murray, whole Thomas Wayne/adoption storyline)
- Cut social worker/Arthur relationship to only their last session. Removed on-the-nose line “They don’t care about people like you, Arthur… or people like me for that matter”
- Re-arranged order of mother’s death and Arthur’s first murder. Originally, the murders occur before his mom is hospitalized - now her death acts as part of the catalyst to Arthur’s subway murders.
- Cut around Arthur suffocating his mother with pillow as result of the Thomas Wayne/adoption storyline. Her death is now ambiguous and occurs the night she’s hospitalized/Arthur is mocked on Murray.
- Removed instances of inter-violence among lower class characters (Opening assault over sign, Arthur murdering his co-worker). We still elude to Arthur getting jumped, but it’s only referenced by his bruises, his co-worker, or Arthur to his boss. The first time we see Arthur physically beaten is by the Wall Street Boys (this keeps the focus on class)
- Cut around his mother when Arthur is watching the news about the murders (since this now occurs after his mother’s death)
- Added reprisal of Claude Boiling’s Temptation Rag to the cop chase bit.
- Trimmed Murray scenes (removed pre-show introductions, re-cut interview to be less of a film “thesis” and feel more in line with narrative) Removed dialogue like “you decide what’s right or wrong the same way you decide what’s funny and not”
- Added new ending track, Joy by Satellite Orchestra. Thought it brought some humor to the end and tied the character arc of Arthur finally finding acceptance in class solidarity.
- For sake of bookending Groucho Marx opener, added Karl Marx quote to close the film.
- Removed psychiatric hospital ending.
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Simply amazing. Brilliant editing. All the other reviewers have pretty much summed up basically what I thought as well. I was honestly so surprised and blown away with how well it works with most stuff taken out in the original and overall its just brilliant.

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Allow me to preface with the fact that I love the original. I wouldn't want them to have delivered The Joker in any other way.... at least at the time of initial viewing. I was mostly drawn to this one because the title is hilarious.

That being said - this is absolutely a worthwhile watch and it is amazing how you can encapsulate the feeling of the entire film in 45 minutes without feeling like anything was lost. Kudos for having the vision, because as stated I watched The Joker and didn't notice anything I would have done differently.

I think most of these fan fixes take movies that are objectively bad because of the addition of certain storylines that never affect the movie in any one way or another and essentially they are removing fluff to realign the movie and 9 times out of 10 the only way to make a bad movie less bad is to take some of the bad out. Usually a fan fix of a good movie improves it by adding in deleted scenes and shifting the narrative in a way that keeps the deleted scenes from feeling out of place.

This takes a good movie, removes good scenes, and somehow makes it better (or at the very least as good). Wild!

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While I enjoyed the original film, I felt while watching it that it was a tad meandering and didn't always know what it wanted to say. This edit, on the other hand, has a clear vision and gets its point across without sacrificing character development or plot. Would definitely recommend.

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Wow. I hope this doesn't sound pessimistic, but I didn't expect to like this so much. I actually liked Joker a lot, and didn't really believe a 45min edit could produce anything solid when this first came out. But after such great reviews, I had to at least SEE it. Boy am I glad I did.

I'm still kinda stunned by it. Its simply amazing. I am shocked at how much stuff was taken out, and even more stunned at how the film was actually better for it. It feels less preachy about SO MANY THNGS, and shows a solid origin story that felt longer than it was, in the best way. This is what GREAT fanediting looks like.

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There is not much i can add that other reviewers have not already stated.
So in the vein of the edit its self here is a review with all the fat cut out of it.
the Groucho Marxist edit of the Joker gets straight to the point with out compromising the over all plot of the original film, with a break neck pace replacing most of the drawn out build up and character study.

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