Captain Jack Sparrow and The Heart of Davy Jones
Dead Man's Chest CD
- PAL DVD-5
- Blackspot subplot removed
- Elizabeth temporarily loving Jack removed so she stay faithful to Will...
- As a result, all footage of Will and Elizabeth falling out removed from this and the next film
- All scenes of Jack before Will locates him removed to move the film along 12.5 minutes quicker and to help us engage with Will's quest
- Where possible, relevant scenes grouped together so they flow from one to the other instead of jumping from place to place and character to character
00.52.02 Removed original title
00.02.15 Removed wedding exposition line (We've got eyes)
00.03.01 Removed reference to Norrington (To early to be reminding the audience about an old character we don't meet again for about an hour)
00.03.40 Removed slow 6 minute 'key capture' exposition sequence. Again the key-drawing information isn't important for another 30 minutes
00.03.41 Added new 'The Heart of Davy Jones' title over map shot
00.04.14 Removed Will's line about him not being friends with Jack (Stop the movie there shall we! If our heroes don't even care about each other, why should we?)
00.05.59 Removed 6.5 minute 'Bootstrap visitation' exposition scene. Once again we don't need this information for about the first half hour
00.13.02 Moved Elizabeth's escape to after Will and Jack have escaped on the Pearl (As that is a natural place for the 2nd act to begin)
00.16.30 Removed Jack's failed 'Paprika' escape
00.27.20 Trimmed Jack's line about Elizabeth, so his last words are "How much do you know about Davy Jones?" leading into the narrative thrust of the 2nd act
00.27.52 Added back deleted scene of Gov. Swann giving Elizabeth a pistol
00.3.26 Brought 2nd Elizabeth scene forward so it now flows from the first removing the brief visual confusion created by the original placement
00.39.40 Removed 'blackspot' dialogue
00.42.09 Brought 3rd Elizabeth scene forward
00.43.46 Removed shot of Will rowing over to the wreck
00.47.19 Removed shot of Jones watching the man's throat being cut (I felt it was too violent for a fun family film)
00.48.15 Will now only mentions Jack's debt once
00.51.14 Removed shot of the blackspot
00.55.47 Two shots of Beckett's magic travelling henchman removed
00.56.46 Removed shot of bootstrap responding to his name
01.05.28 Removed Gov. Swann agreeing to help Beckett so the last we see of him alive is disheveled, beaten and in chains being threatened (He will not be alive in the next film)
01.05.32 Black Pearl deck scene discussing Beckett brought forward so it links with the last one
01.06.57 Removed end of deck scene where Elizabeth is shown to be in love with Jack
01.13.06 Removed Will banging Organ as it was ludicrously loud
01.20.40 Removed 1st shot of Will climbing onto the Dutchman
01.20.53 Removed 2nd shot of Will climbing onto the Dutchman
01.21.42 Removed Elizabeth's "I'm so ready to be married" line as it felt odd to me given her tom-boy character
01.22.37 New match cut created removing all footage of Elizabeth being flattered by Jack's advances, so now her insulting him reads as genuine
01.23.14 Removed footage of Elizabeth flirting and teasing Jack (As nice as it was)
01.23.15 Removed blackspot being shown again
01.24.24 Removed shots showing Elizabeth's compass pointing at Jack
01.24.29 Removed lizabeth dialogue about the compass
01.38.23 Removed shots of Norrington obviously taking the heart so it later comes as a surprise. Plus we now also think Norrington is genuinely being a hero by escaping with the chest
01.48.00 Removed shot of Jack having second thoughts about fleeing so it's a surprise when he later comes back
01.49.50 Recut 'shooting the gunpowder' scene so it no longer appears that Jack is trying to kill Will
01.51.52 Radicaly recut and reduced kissing scene so Will doesn't see it and Elizabeth only kisses Jack just long enough to trap him
01.52.01 Removed most of Elizabeth's dialogue during this scene
01.52.26 Removed Will's bitter looks at Elizabeth and remixed music and audio
01.53.45 Reduced length of rare dodgy CGI shot of the Kraken roaring
01.54.17 New match cut so Jack no longer runs at the Kraken but just holds his ground
01.55.44 Moved Norrington/Beckett encounter to final scene
01.55.45 Removed start of swamp montage
01.57.27 Removed shot of Will looking angrily at Elizabeth
02.00.03 Remixed ending music and dialogue audio to end the film on Norrington's line "The Heart of Davy Jones"
02.09.04 Added thankyou titlecard for thread contributers
02.09.10 Removed 'Dog diety' post credits scene and replaced it with...
02.09.11 'Alternate Ending' deleted scene radically recut into new brief post credits scene forshadowing the opening to the next film. Norrington has been removed, as by this time he is probably having a bath and a shave
FanEdit Length - 129 Minutes
Original Length - 150 Minutes
Time Added - 1 Minute
Time Removed - 22 Minutes
It's been a few years since I saw the original, but it's testament to how well TM2YC has edited this film that I didn't notice anything missing. In fact, I was nearly at the end when I suddenly remembered "oh yeah, the love triangle is gone." If that's not a statement on a) how well the Editor has structured this and b) how unnecessary that was in the original script, then nothing is.
The edit works excellently, with a stirring Indiana Jones-esque feel (especially with the title card overlaying a man painting a map), and the ending is much stronger. By removing certain elements (esp. the aforementioned love triangle; and Jack's "Black Spot" subplot at the start) the story gets going much more quickly, and the characters develop much more strongly here.
That being said... the film still isn't a patch on the original, even with TM2YC's excellent work. Unfortunately, this is due to the weaknesses of the script itself. The decision to make two sequels back-to-back means that this film essentially ends halfway through it's second act. There is no meaningful resolution for anyone, and if anything this kind of film might very nicely be turned into a four-part Mini-Series (something to consider...) I think the structure of the plot would suit that much more nicely. But this is a creative thought, nothing to do with TM2YC's edit, which improves on a flawed film as much as possible. As said, any flaws are with the source material, not the Editor's work.
I am excited to watch the third episode, which dragged horrifically in the theatrical version.
This would easily be a replacement on the original.
Dead Man's Chest is a movie that I feel is underrated. It's not as good as the first one, but its better than the mediocre 4 and the terribly disappointing 3.
After hearing about these edits, as a POTC fan I quickly downloaded it. Can't say I quickly watched it but after a while I did watch it, and I can say that this is a pretty good alternative.
First off, I liked the new color correction, however the sky and sea was too green that it distracted me. While the original was mostly green it wasn't distracting, here it was because I guess getting rid of the other greens higlighted the rest. That being said, it's not terrible. It is good. The quality was great, the editing was flawless.
About the narrative, not much is changed, except the 12 minute deleted sequence. I understand why it was cut but in my first time viewer eyes I had many questione in my head like "How did Bootstrap end up in the Flying Dutchman?" or "Where is Jack's hat?" or after the Kraken spits it, "When and how did Jack lose his hat?"
The only problem I had with the movie was the love triangle, and how it's gone here is great.
Watching the 12 minute sequence is necessary for me. Then the problem I had is gone, but then it's replaced with; "What happened to the black spot?" I know this may be a nitpick to some audiences, but to me it's important. The black spot is for the Kraken, as explained in the sequence. When it is gone after the deleted sequence, it's unsatisfying.
So basically my feelings with the edit is the same with the theatrical. My choice of which version will be on my shelf depends on The Song of the Brethren Court. If that edit is as good as I hope, then The Heart of Davy Jones and The Song of the Brethren Court will replace Dead Man's Chest and At World's End on my shelf. Otherwise Dead Man's Chest will remain and I will have to do my own edit of At World's End ;)
SIDE NOTE: I won't be doing an edit of Dead Man's Chest if the above circumstance is the case. With only 10 minutes cut it would be pointless to cut, export, upload, submit etc.. Some things, you just gotta force yourself to bear. (This is why Dead Man's Chest Shaved is unnoticed and the only person who did see it rated it low)
Gosh, this was terrific! I never cared much for any of the "Pirates" movies past the first one due to them being over-long, unpleasant to look at, and damn near incomprehensible. I'm happy to say that TM2YC has redeemed this one for me in a big way. The color correction? Perfect. The restructuring and simplification of the plot? Inspired. And it's funny, while one of my major complaints about the theatrical cut of Dead Man's Chest was the preponderance of lengthy, ridiculous action sequences, here they didn't bother me at all! Even though the editor left all of these scenes relatively untouched, the length of these scenes doesn't grate in the same way (at least for me). I think the reason for this is the improved pacing. Since it now doesn't take forever to get through every single scene, and since the plot is so streamlined, these sequences now feel like logically-placed, epic set-pieces instead of just one more thing that's getting in the way and slowing the narrative down.
I only have a couple of negative things to say, and they are very minor. Firstly, for a movie called "Captain Jack Sparrow and the Heart of Davy Jones" the titular pirate feels awfully sidelined. It's not a criticism of the cuts, as they were all well chosen, but since the movie focuses much more on Will and Elizabeth, it's hard to really see this as Jack's adventure. And lastly (yes this really is it), I will echo the sentiment of other reviewers that, while I like the new ending, it does end rather abruptly, meaning the final moment doesn't land properly.
All in all, though, this is a very professional and enjoyable edit and a much more worthy follow-up to the first film. I highly recommend watching it, and in the best possible quality for your setup.
Let me come right out and say it: POTC 2 and 3 were huge disappointments to me. The first POTC was a great adventure and a fun ride. The following 2 films were stuffed full of pointless and unnecessary action, convoluted, confusing character motivations, and over-the-top visuals and plot lines. What started the series as a "realistic" setting - putting aside cursed gold - quickly turned into a mythological, epic behemoth... of a let down... Why do film-makers think sequels need to be bigger to be better?
On to this edit: let's start with the good stuff. Not just good - but great! The audio/video quality was simply outstanding. I forgot how beautiful some of the cinematography was in this film... probably because it wasn't so beautiful until TM2YC color-corrected it! The picture quality was immaculate.
I watched this edit with a friend - we both agreed that in terms of editing/cuts, neither one of us could tell this wasn't a theatrical release. No noticeable edit or transition. (from a quality perspective) Quite impressive!
Now on to the narrative... I was hoping that TM2YC could make me enjoy this film... but I was disappointed. I probably went in expecting too much, which left my ending opinion sullied.
Is this an improved version? Absolutely, no question - but I feel like not enough was cut, as the running time could still allow for a LOT more... Especially in the action sequences that plague this film...
Would I recommend this edit as an alternative? Absolutely. This has replaced my copy on the shelf - but I don't foresee wanting to watch either version again...
Would it bring someone around that didn't like Dead Man's Chest? Possible... but don't get your hopes up.
There are two reasons I didn't really notice that there had been things removed from this edit: I haven't watched "Dead Man's Chest" in full for a number of years, and TM2YC's editing was that great. Watching this edit, it was readily apparent just how bloated the original film is. Nothing that was cut I especially noticed or missed, minus the scenes involving the black spot and Jack's first meeting with Bootstrap Bill, plus the whole process of getting the drawing the key. That said, I only noticed after they would have already transpired, so no loss there.
However, I did have a thought as to the appropriateness of the title "The Adventures of Jack Sparrow." Seeing as this is supposed to be a series about Jack, it would seem appropriate that there would be more scenes concerning him and perhaps fewer concerning other characters. It's not really until "On Stranger Tides" that Jack really takes center stage. A minor quibble about something that is on screen for ten seconds, but hey, I have to say something critical right?
The editing was incredibly well done, save for two moments: the transition from "DAMN YOU JACK SPARROW!" to Tia Dalma's hut didn't quite work, and as was mentioned previously, the final cut to the credits was a little quick. There could have been an extra shot of Beckett looking smug or maybe the heart beating on his desk.
That said, I thoroughly enjoyed this edit. It was a fun adventure romp that the films have tried to be but failed at due to their bloated running times. The quality of the MKV I watched was very good, but I would certainly love a version of this mastered for Blu-ray. You know, for science. I heartily recommend this edit and I'm really looking forward to the next installment!