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I also disagreed with Batman's attitude towards killing and reduced this aggressively, while retaining a sense of brutality about this jaded veteran Dark Knight. Certain interactions between Superman and other characters are removed to make him seem less mopey and hopeless, and further depict Clark as the "other" in a world that cannot trust him. Strategic omissions place the emphasis more on Lex Luthor's misdeeds than his mannerisms. Visual filters reintroduce some of the lost colour to create a bolder, more comic book inspired image.
- Suicide Squad Comic-Con First Look Trailer: Jared Leto’s Joker laugh- used to evoke memories of Robin’s death
- Man of Steel (2013): Superman creates a sonic boom as he blasts into the atmosphere- used as a transition prior to the scene in Mexico. Martha Kent embraces a young Clark- intended to humanise him from Batman’s perspective
- The Siege (1998): “Excuse me, sir. I think you should see this.” [7:29]- used prior to the Congressional incident
- Final Official Trailer: Batman flings a goon into a stack of pallets- used to replace Batman’s grenade kill in the warehouse
- Official TV Spot #7: “It’s time you learned what it means to be a man.”- used to replace “I bet your parents taught you that you mean something.”
Characters cannot teleport from one location to another. It must be shown or implied how they got there, even if that seems dull. The brain subconsciously searches for logical flaws like this. The last thing you want is to distance the viewer through sloppy transitions or erratic pacing.
Foresight is essential. Unlike writing an original story, one must accept the movie can only ever be whittled down (unless it is a radical Fan Mix incorporating other source material). This will invariably limit your creative options. Map out the edit on paper or in your head in its entirety before commencement.
There are no shortcuts I can recommend. It’s all about commitment and patience. Your edit will evolve. Be prepared to watch it multiple times if you seek excellence in the end result. Recolouring your fan edit is an even greater time commitment.
Request the constructive feedback of your friends, family and online colleagues. Be patient with them; they aren’t trying to tear you down, but in fact build you up.
Professionally and concisely present your fan edit online. Why spend all that time to see your opus sink into the quagmire of Internet content? Sell it. Hit up related websites (e.g. Reddit’s fan edit sub), but get to the point. Create equally impressive miscellanea (artwork, trailers, screen caps etc). Create a search engine friendly website. Wix is free and looks great.
Take pride in what you are doing. You will likely be utilising powerful video editing software, so experiment and have fun!
- Nairomi: The photographer's introduction as Jimmy Olsen. Why? It was a universally unpopular decision to kill off one of Superman's most iconic allies so early.
- I saw him! I never saw him before: The artificial-looking crawl across the ceiling as Batman escapes from the shotgun-wielding cop. The two cops watching Football. Why? It adds nothing of substance to the narrative.
- Meeting at LexCorp: The "Metahuman Thesis" and Luthor's negotiations with Senator Barrows in regards to the Kryptonian ship.
- False God: The reaction scene inside the Daily Planet offices is tightened.
- Luthor's private meeting with Finch: Luthor's "One if by land, two if by air" comment. Why? For brevity. And Luthor is fairly annoying in this scene.
- Metropolis Library: Bruce imagines a subtle Joker laugh when he looks at Robin's suit. Clark does not ask a fellow journalist who Bruce Wayne is. Some of Luthor's speech omitted. Diana Prince omitted from this and all future scenes. Bruce's conversation with Clark is slightly tightened. Bruce leaves unhindered with the hacking device, while Clark flies to Mexico.
- Knightmare, Flash's warning: Omitted.
- Bruce's demon dream: Omitted. Why? It seemed like one "Martha" scene too many.
- Clark researches the 'Bat-brand': Omitted. Why? Batman is less culpable for the prison deaths if they are not yet a matter of public record, while Clark still learns about the consequences of the "mark" from Mrs. Santos.
- Batmobile: Batman tagging the cargo truck, only to pursue the vehicle anyway. By showing the tracking device on the truck afterwards, it can be inferred it was fired from the Batmobile at some point during the chase. The chase is tightened. None of Anatoli Knyazev’s men are killed as a direct result of Batman's actions. Batman's altercation with Superman is tightened.
- Congressional bombing: Senator Finch does not stutter prior to the explosion. Bruce's inquest about Keefe's disability checks is omitted, with Greg handing him the most recent envelope only. Why? Luthor had been intercepting Keefe's checks for upwards of eighteen months, marking them with anti-Bruce Wayne hate rhetoric / death threats, and returning them. There was not a single discerning employee at Wayne Enterprises who considered bringing this to Bruce's attention in a year-and-a-half, especially after Keefe's very public arrest for a hate crime? Had Bruce known sooner, he would have investigated Keefe, and subsequently Lex himself. This is a clear example of Deus ex machina driving Bruce's enmity of Superman forwards at the expense of his vaunted deductive reasoning.
- Clark's self-exile: Clark questioning the validity of his actions, and climbing the mountain to speak to his father. Why? Both heroes were at peak-mopiness by this point. Pa Kent's return to reiterate established themes is redundant, and the "She was my world" idea is not relevant to No Justice.
- Luthor and the Kryptonian ship: All scenes omitted.
- Bruce's training montage: The revelation of Kryptonite gas deferred until the fight itself. Why? To surprise the audience.
- Luthor's contractors kidnap Martha: Deferred until Luthor reveals it to Superman. Why? To give Luthor an ace in the hole.
- Superman saves Lois: Luthor's insistence that Lois' proof of his illegal activities will blow over. Superman’s uncharacteristic “No one stays good in this world” line. "What have you done?" (in reference to Doomsday). Luthor's instruction for Superman to go to the Kryptonian ship after killing Batman. Luthor spoon-feeding us his manipulation of Bruce. Why? It's clear from previous scenes that Luthor was responsible for the bombing, not Keefe.
- Batman v. Superman: Bruce's reference to Clark’s parents. Why? By acknowledging he has parents- even Kryptonians, Bruce unwittingly humanises Clark, which in turns lessens the impact of the next scene. The line is replaced with, "It's time you learned what it means to be a man." from TV Spot 7, which never made it into the final cut.
- "Martha": When it hits home to Bruce, we see a few frames of Martha hugging a young Clark. Why? I wanted to emphasise that Bruce is about to murder someone who is for all intents and purposes human, and become no better than the scum that killed his own mother.
- Batman rescues Martha Kent: There is a tighter transition between the two combat scenes to maintain a sense of climax. By Batman simply leaving to save Martha, it can be inferred Superman is too weak from Kryptonite poisoning to act, and that Batman has vowed to atone for his wrong. Batman killing Knyazev’s men inside the Batwing omitted. The grenade kill is replaced with an unused moment from the final trailer (Batman man-handling a thug into a stack of pallets). When Batman is primed to kill Knyazev, we see a brief reminder of his own mother dying, giving Batman stronger motive to pull the trigger and rescue Martha from the same fate.
- Luthor's Abomination / the Trinity / Death of Superman: Omitted.
- Lois and Clark in the tub: Relocated to after Luthor’s arrest, with all references to the incident in Nairomi excluded. Why? It was the most appropriate scene to complete Lois and Clark's stories in the absence of the original ending.
- Batman threatens Luthor: Luthor's reference to Superman's death and the imminent arrival of Darkseid.
- Superman’s funeral: Omitted, leaving the rotated painting in Luthor's study as the movie's final shot. Why? It's the obvious ending point in the absence of Doomsday. This, with the amended musical cue, shifts the emphasis away from Darkseid's arrival to Batman's (a mere mortal) own capacity for devilry.
Really impressed with this fan edit. The final product is still not a good film, but certainly a better one. There are still plotholes and extraneous details here and there. I agree that completely removing Wonder Woman is a bit jarring. I would have prefered if the editor at least left the scene in the server room. That way Bruce has a reason to be staring at her when he meets Clark at the party. A cute little easter egg for the fans.
Lex has been toned down and that's a good thing. You can kinda see what Jesse Eisenberg was going for. I actually don't mind the rather abrupt cut from Batman saving Martha to Lex in jaill. I personally don't care about keeping continuity with other movies.
Honestly, this might be the best someone can do with BvS with the available footage.
Great work, reeseevans!
I think this is a good proof-of-concept fan edit, meaning that if you cut out all of the Justice League stuff, you really do get a much better movie. The problem is, however, you're still not getting the best possible edit of BvS.
What I like is that, once it hits its stride, the film has a much better pace and tone. With all the attempts at building shared universe jettisoned, it doesn't have that all-over-the-place feel that the original cut had. It is very focused on Batman and Superman, Lex's machinations, and Lois' journalistic work, and that is this edit's greatest strength.
Also good is the fact that Lex is far less irritating and as a result much more menacing and even frightening. His motives are also much clearer, and this fan edit basically redeems Lex and Jesse Eisenberg's protrayal of him.
However, the fan edit suffers primarily because the end feels very truncated. There is no showdown with Doomsday, and there is no death of Superman. Yes, we all hated the inclusion of Doomsday in BvS, but without it, the film just seems to end in the middle despite the faneditor's best efforts at a resolution.
Also, while I understand the purpose of the fan edit was to remove the Justice League stuff, most people who watched the film actually liked the inclusion of Wonder Woman. The larger problem, however, is that the faneditor didn't actually fully remove her from the movie. It is very jarring to see her walking around in the background yet not have her be acknowledged.
These editing decisions ultimately take this fan edit of BvS out of continuity with the critically acclaimed Wonder Woman film, the upcoming Justice League film, and future DC films. I think if one were to maintain continuity with existing and upcoming films, they would have to grudgingly include Wonder Woman and Doomsday and Superman's death, even if they pushed them to the background. What really needs to be in the foreground is the conflict--might I add the ideological conflict--between Batman and Superman. As much as I appreciated what the faneditor did to drastically improve Lex, the problem is that the more involved Lex is with his behind-the-scenes manipulations, the weaker and more pathetic it makes Batman and Superman look. I think this fact was a huge let down for audiences, i.e., that Batman and Superman were played by this total loser, and I think it is at the core of what's wrong with this movie.
So Lex is also something I would push to the background. And along with that, I would diminish if not completely eliminate the Lois subplot. It was convoluted and boring. Batman has enough motivation to take out Superman without Lex's meddling, and while Superman may need that extra push that Lex provides, Lex's involvement doesn't need to be overly complicated.
A better vision for a fan edit would be one that cuts out non-essential plot elements, focuses on and empowers Batman and Superman, and eliminates the Justice League stuff ONLY insofar that it doesn't break continuity with other DC films. That said, I still highly recommend this fan edit. It succeeds in what it set out to do, and it is by far more enjoyable than the original cut.
I heard about this edit and I was glad to find it. Glad it didn't have some of the things that I found strayed from the main story such as Doomsday, The Justice League teaser trailer among other things. Plus the spoiler was asinine in the original/director's cut and I'm glad that is also gone.
reeseevans took what is in my opinion one of the worst superhero movies ever made and made it watchable.
He boiled down the concept to what was sold in the title, a Batman vs Superman sorta kinda sequel to Man of Steel (which I very much enjoyed btw) and introduces Batman to this new era of Warner attempting to imitate Marvel with their shared movie universe.
Instead of a "look we are bringing the Justice League up next" this movie works as a standalone film with a reasonable runtime in which Bats and Supes disagree for the most part and Lex Luthor plays the man behind the strings that ultimately makes them see eye to eye.
No "Doomsday". no shoehorned in Wonder Woman, no bat nightmares that make no sense including no prematurely introduced Flash, no gratuitous Aquaman. All great things.
Unfortunately, yet another 2.0 audio track is offerec; so my usual A/V quality penalty points apply.
The Audio and Video editing are 100% seamless, so full scores there.
Finally, also unfortunately; it is Martha who resolves the main conflict. A major issue I have with this film which I hoped would be worked around; therefore enjoyment point deducted.
Overall, a huge improvement; specially over the theatrical release.
So I was not a fan of Batman v Superman, both the original and the "Ultimate" edition. Both were bloated, excessively busy, and often incoherent. So I was pretty interested in watching this version. Overall, it's a definite improvement as a sequel to Man of Steel, and as a film about Batman and Superman.
First and foremost, all sequel-bait is gone. No visit from the Flash, no email about the other metahumans, and no warning from Lex Luthor about Darkseid or any of that. Even Wonder Woman completely gone (you'll only spot her in the background at Lex's party). Though that does make seeing her name in the opening credits a little strange.
Also, Lex Luthor is much less cartoony, mostly just by cutting out eighty percent of his stutters and verbal tics. He's much more tolerable when he can get through a sentence without going "Ah!" or "Oop!"
This version is less than two hours long, and most of that comes from removing the entire Doomsday fight and Superman's death, which itself lasted about half an hour. The final action scene is Batman saving Martha, and while that's a bit anticlimactic, it's a much better finale than Superman's death.
The main disadvantage is that this film isn't watchable as a DCEU film. While it's a good Man of Steel sequel, since it actually focuses on the Man of Steel, it's completely self-contained, and after Wonder Woman has come out, it definitely isn't canon to the DCEU. However, it succeeds where it counts, as I didn't even miss most of the scenes of the main characters sulking and monologuing their way through the story.
Overall, I would recommend as a completely stripped-down version of the film I was hoping to see. Only what's important to the title conflict remains, and I was satisfied enough with that.