Dark Knight Saga Recut, The - Part I

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This one does replace the original for me. I had read the previous reviews before watching this edit and was prepared for feeling like something would be missing from the Rachel and Bruce relationship, but for me, those fears were totally unfounded.
There were exactly 2 things in this edit that felt the tiniest bit off and they were: I was slightly thrown by Bruce being in jail and then suddenly being tossed out of a truck at the bottom of a mountain. (It has been a while since I watched the original, so for all I remember, this is what happened in the original as well). And the other, was Rachel apologizes for saying some "terrible things" to Bruce at the very end, but I don't recall her doing that. But in this watching experience it is easy to assume whatever it was was off screen and in their past.
Other than that, this is a pretty damned flawless edit and was a much more fun movie to watch than it was originally. An easy recommendation from me!

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Owner's reply August 19, 2014

Thanks for the review anarchemist, great to hear such positive feedback. You're right about the transition from the prison to the road, that is unedited from the original, and I agree it is a little sudden. As for Rachel's, "I said terrible things", she is referring to their conversation in the car after Joe Chill is murdered. She tells him that his father would be ashamed of him, and that he should look beyond his own pain. This is why she acknowledges at the end of the film that she was wrong, and that Bruce's father would indeed be very proud of him. Cheers for watching and reviewing!

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Audio/Video quality was top notch, I didn't see any issues

I agree with dangermouse for the most part. I don't agree with your cutting most of Rachel and Bruce's dialog, since while it was a little awkward and clumsy, it was also very important to the story and establishes the theme of "the Bat or the Man". I also am a fan of the hallucination scenes, so I personally would like to see them here. Also, SWEAR TO ME is a classic line. That needs to come back.

Much like dangermouse I can't say this will replace Batman Begins for me, if you have a second version that addresses his complaints, then absolutely it would. However, I still recommend this cut, because it really does go a long way to addressing a lot of the issues the original had.

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Owner's reply August 19, 2014

Hey soufihadi, thank you for your review :) Putting back in the scene with Rachel and Bruce and the "Swear to Me" line would be pretty easy. If there's enough interest in that, I'll put out another version in the future. I can guarantee I won't be putting the CGI hallucinations back in though! You'll have to go back to the original for that... ;)

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This won't be a long review. I watched the entire trilogy this weekend and thought that NJVC made all the right cuts from all three.

Audio / Video quality was superb and I detected no problem cuts whatsoever.

When I'm itchin' for some Dark Knight this is what I will watch.

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Owner's reply August 18, 2014

Thank you for the short and sweet review Fanedit! Glad you enjoyed it.

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This is a tough one. Batman Begins is, I think, the best movie of the three: coherent, tightly edited, with heart.
But njvc showss that BB can be tweaked. No major cuts here, just little nips and tucks everywhere which, for the most part, greatly improve the film.

First, the negatives:
I missed "SWEAR TO ME!" - I think it's funny, but no biggie.

But these next cuts make the edit a companion piece rather than a replacement to the original:
Cutting Bruce's hesitant response to Rachel and de-emphasising the "it's what you dooo" weakens the link they have. His soul is laid bare in the "it's not what you see, it's underneath" - you see the deep connection Rachel has for him - she is his link to normalcy. Removing it removes his link to normalcy, which considerably weakens not just this film but the next two as well.
It also makes her realisation that he's Batman really random. In the original their interaction sticks out in your mind - his vulnerability is so unusual. In the edit the scene is forgotten - so much so that at the kiss at the well I thought "huh? how did she know he's Batman!"
The kiss is also very weird. I know Holmes delivery is iffy, but without the dialogue their reactions are just extremely odd. She needs to tell him that his mask is his normal face - because that's a major theme (will the Bat consume the Man?), which is also a callback to "hwo I am underneath" (which is probably why you removed it?)-
A v2 re-inserting all three scenes "it's me underneath" "it's what I dooo" and stregnthens the characters immensely and would replace BB (for me, at least!).
I'd also either cut Flass threatening the kids or put back the voodoo-vision for him - at the moment it just seems that he's going to randomly murder some kids. I know he's an ass, but he wasn't THAT bad!

Then the positives:
Wow. Just wow. Nipped and tucked and tweaked - this edit is amazing. Lots of tiny, flawless trims to dialogue.
The Mr Earl sideplot, although amusing, is easily disposed of and strengthen the movie.
Ra's is more threatening with the removal of acres of exposition. Now he's focussed, brutal, to the point.
The weird voodoovision is flawlessly removed - and the movie is SO much better for it.
The editing is amazing!

Audio: There was one point when I noticed a flutter in the music (the 10,000 cowl's scene), otherwise flawless to my ears. Impressive.
Video quality is superb (watched HD mkv).

I rated BB a 8/9 originally. This edit is better in so many ways, but because of the Rachel /Bruce scenes mentioned above I can't replace BB. So it comes in as a solid 8.
For those who aren't bothered by those scenes- you will never watch the original again.
Outstanding work njvc.

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Owner's reply August 18, 2014

Thanks for the review dangermouse. I can understand your feelings around the Bruce/Rachel dialogue. Personally, I found the sentiment in those scenes a bit on the nose, and preferred a more subtle approach to their interactions. Likewise with "Swear to Me!", I realise many fans enjoy that line. For me, it is an example of the OTT shouty voice that doesn't fit with my preferred version of the character. Regardless of these points, I was pleased to read that you enjoyed the edit overall!

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