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I have to say first of all this edit is superb. I would highly recommend it to every Superman fan. The pace is wonderful and the visuals are lovely. My nephew is a comic book fanatic and absolutely loved this. He told me he enjoyed it so much that he'd rather throw out his Superman blu ray and just watch this. Very well done.

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hi i saw your edit and thought it was great ,the edit was coherent ,quality was great and love how you used the best of both versions ,i love how you used care to step outside,and toned down some od the silly scenes and lois got to remember everything ,youre a great editor!it was a great edit ,really cool and how superman should have been released!

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I’ve watched several Superman 1 + 2 edits now and this is one of the strongest - I had no issues with the audio/visual quality and I think the editing makes for a cohesive whole. I’ve docked points for narrative and subsequently enjoyment due to the end scenes with Lois; the fan editor has explained well their reasoning for the scene, but it just doesn’t work for me. I’d have to have the magic kiss or back-in-time flight as an explanation :)
Apart from that I think it’s well worth watching, and I’m glad I was given the chance to do so.

(Watched on a virtual reality cinema screen via Skybox on Quest 3, stereo sound only)

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Owner's reply March 17, 2024

Thank you for taking the time to leave a nice review. Your criticism is both fair and expected. So far about half of the feedback I've gotten was people embracing this ending (more than I expected) and the other half was people strongly disliking it (which I anticipated). I wasn't originally going to say anything but at this point the cat is out of the bag so to anyone interested in my SUPERMAN EPIC the only big controversial decision I made that may be a deal breaker for some potential viewers is my choice to use the final Daily Planet scene from Donner's Superman II. The main issue being Lois' line of "I FEEL LIKE I'M SITTING ON THE BIGGEST STORY OF MY CAREER, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT IS.." I may even make a whole video explaining why I made this decision but here I'll just run over a few quick points.

1. Technically in my cut I made sure to prove that Lois does in fact remember because she ends the scene typing "Superman saves humanity from eternal damnation" rather than "Superman takes the day off." So right there we have confirmation that Lois did not "forget" any events. 2. Now the issue w/ the scene is the use of the word "Forget." That's really the only problem (and they blow right past it anyway). I look at this scene now, the way I repurposed it, as a continuation of the banter between the two of them at the beginning of the Donner Cut only now Clark can play along, which he does. it's a glimpse into how their relationship would have been going forward which I really truly love. We have a stronger Lois that got all her crying out of her system the night before (in previous scene) that shows up to work where we get "the same old clark and same old Lois" (as promised in the previous scene). So Lois is rejuvenated but she has a problem, she is in fact going to be forced to sit on the greatest story of her career. She can't write about the fact that she knows Superman's true identity. She can't write about the fact that she knows Superman gave up his powers etc. So she is in fact sitting on the biggest story of her career and may in fact have to bend the truth to write about what happened. There's no debating that. Additionally neither Clark nor Lois should be talking openly about their situation (nor should they be kissing really) at the Daily Planet. So what we end up with is the first scene/interaction with the two of them both in on Clark's little super-secret. 3 Using this scene also brings consistency to the finale/whole film. 4. The scene features better writing, a better set, better cinematography AND SIGNIFICANTLY better performances from Margot Kidder and Christopher Reeve (I don't even think it's close. Margot was 10x better under Donner's directing). 5 For me, to see Chris Reeve end this movie joking about how Superman "saved the city or saved the world or saved the universe as a little inside joke w/Lois was extremely entertaining and may even be my favorite scene in the whole Epic. I love it. I also love that it ends with Lois saying "You know you're really SUPER" which to me actually works better the way I have it, as an inside joke between the two of them, then the way it was originally written, as an inside joke for the audience. 6. Finally I think it's redundant to have Lois crying at the Daily planet after the two absolutely EXCELLENT previous break up scenes (Fortress and Lois' apartment). There's much more to say but this is already very long. So that's a little glimpse into why I made the decision I did, why I feel it's the right scene to use for this version and how I think it actually works better than the alternatives. Additionally I will be looking into a slight update with tweaked dialogue from A.I. for a future RE-RELEASE. In the meantime for anyone interested in this edit that has now been turned off by this ending decision I made, there will be two additional versions of my this edit released later this year (Superman Epic as ORIGINALLY INTENDED and Superman Epic Alternate Cut which is more for the Lester fans). Both upcoming versions have different endings that I decided on years ago as my plan all along was to give viewers options by releasing THREE different versions rather than forcing everything into a hybrid cut. Thanks for reading.

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I really loved this superman edit !! Wow! Everything was just great!! The editing pace were just fantastic!! I highly recommend this edit to anyone out there who is a superman movies fan!!!!!!!!! Great work!!

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As a die-hard Reeve Supes fan, I must say that this was a solid edit by PanteraSteel.

Nothing too drastic changed nor any major scenes removed. This is simply two great films blended together back-to-back, with a few extra scenes that weren't present in the Donner Cut of II. And the transition between I and II was pretty darn seamless that I actually couldn't tell at first.

If I had one criticism it would be that the overall ending was a tad confusing. I totally get not wanting to include the magic amnesia kiss or Supes reversing time (as it already happened halfway through the edit, and even removing that scene wouldn't have helped), but it didn't really make much sense to me that Lois would act like she forgot about Clark's identity, and Clark being "jealous" of Superman. Maybe it was an act, and she was keeping her promise from the scene before. I'm not sure, it just didn't seem clear to me.

But aside from that, this version pretty much demonstrates what the original plan for the story would have been if Donner wasn't fired in the first place. It may not be accurate, but it's pretty close. Great to watch if you're feeling nostalgic.

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