Spider-Man 3: The Continuity Cut

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Original Release Date:
2007
Original Running Time:
148
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Fanedit Running Time:
114
Time Cut:
34
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Brief Synopsis:
So again as always people who are familiar with my edits know what's coming: A streamlines version of Spider-Man 3 that tries it's best to fit in with the previous two films. No Uncle Ben plot, Harry fakes his insomnia, Mary Jane isn't forced to break up are the biggest changes. It has only streamlined cuts that are seamless.

Warning: If you absolutely hate everything about the original, odds are you won't like this. That said, this is easily my most intrusive edit yet, with huge parts of the story flipped around.
Intention:
I made this edit to see if SpiderMan 3 could be saved (no offense if you like the original, that's cool). It is bloated, messy but it does have a lot of heart. So I went to the cutting room and I believe I have managed to make the movie far more managable and streamlined!
Other Sources:
Spider-Man 3 and the Editor's cut were both used.
Special Thanks:
ArtisDead as always for the awesome poster! My personal hero. Spider-Man doesn't even come close.
Release Information:
Blu-Ray
Editing Details:
I felt the movie had some continuity errors when watching them back to back with part one and two (uncle ben's new killer lol) so I set out to make a version that feels more in line with those movies. I tried to balance the movies camp, because even though some people hate him dancing I think the editor's cut putting it right after he almost kills Harry makes it work soooo well.
Cuts and Additions:
- Only seamless cuts. Show this to someone who hasn't seen the original and they won't be able to tell it isn't the original movie.
- Removed the entire early Harry/Peter fight. I feel the original fight scene drags on and has very dated CGI. Although some shots were great. The story starts with Norman tormenting Harry psychologically after the singing scene to continue the story set at the end of part two. The pacing is the most important thing. There are also like 6 fight scenes already in this movie so cutting this loses absolutely nothing of importance, because in my cut Harry is made to be more cunning and attacks Peter's heart instead of facing him head-on.
- The police call Peter to inform him of Harry's mysterious off-screen accident. He fakes insomnia.
- M.J Breaks up with Peter voluntarily after the kiss, the breakup, losing her job and the general shitty behaviour or Peter.
- Reduced the parts I found too campy, like when Betty tells Peter his shots are so good and he would love to shoot her sometime.
- Every mention of Uncle Ben is removed
- The first half about the movie is about Peter's relationship with MJ as Spiderman. The second half is about his breakup and his coping with the black suit. This helps the pacing a LOT.
- Removed other lines I found a bit too lame, like the 'tell me you love me' and the 'I thought it was the sun' lines.
- Altered the dialogue with Peter and M.J. on the phone. The first one now refers to his messed up proposal night, the second one refers to the bar dance.
- Speaking of the bar dance, Peter now doesnt harass the first employee he sees and doesnt do crazy acrobatics.
- Sandman returns as a sandcastle for his daughter. Removed the scene where he reforms after going out of the drainpipe. It's an ugly scene imo and the sandcastle scene already tells you he survived.
- Harry decides to help Peter
- Peter doesn't know Sandman is working with Peter, because I removed this from the news report. I like the idea of Peter not knowing what he's getting into.
- Included the May scene telling Peter to forgive himself
- Removed Venom mentioning Sandman's daughter, because he cannot know this about Sandman. Also modified his voice, and he says 'we' one time instead of 'I'.
- Some minor other tweaks you won't even know are changed unless you religiously watch the movie
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A great edit that gives the movie a very different narrative compared to the original, and achieves what it set out to do in streamlining the plot and restoring continuity with the earlier movies in the series.

The edits are of a very high technical standard, and extremely impressive considering that DonkeyKonga only had the retail material to work with.

The only scene that didn’t work for me was the final interaction between Sandman and Spider-man. With the uncle Ben plot now gone, the viewer is left wondering why Spider-man is so emotional and ignoring Harry’s predicament, while the whole forgiveness aspect is now out of context.

I had hoped the edit would cut out the silly dance in the street scene, but alas it survived. In my opinion, we don’t need Dr Conners to spell out the obvious about the symbiote’s nature – it’s clear for all to see! So for me, it makes that whole segment with the dance, Dr Conners phone call and Ursula’s cookies an easy choice for removal. Anyhow, it’s not a deal breaker, as I removed it myself. So, now it goes from the fade out following the explosion on Harry, to Sandman’s daughter on the bench.

On the audio/visual side of things, the video quality is excellent and encoded at a high bitrate. The audio, however, was lacking for me. Being fortunate to have a high-end home cinema setup, I really missed the lossless soundtrack, especially with subwoofer activity. I realise licensing constraints mean encoding the audio in lossless Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD MA is not possible, but I’d happily take the lossless sound in raw PCM or FLAC format. It could even be offered as a standalone extra, requiring users to mux the audio themselves.

Overall, I really enjoyed this cut and was thoroughly impressed by its technical merits. Well done to DonkeyKonga and thank you very much for your efforts.

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This is a great edit of a very confused movie.
Rather than spend the entirety of this review etching out a lengthy diatribe against the original film and everything it stands for, I'm going to focus on the good that this edit does, and point out some of the bad.

First things first, this edit went a long way in fixing the films pacing, and it does so in a mostly natural way, which is par for the course from DonkeyKonga. Kudos to the editor, as he really has a keen sense of what is superfluous to the narrative, and what is necessary.
I've always thought that the new goblins amnesia was the dumbest part of the original film. From the get go, I always had the impression that Harry was faking his memory loss. This edit smartly excises the whole pointless rabbit chase and lets the audience know Harry is faking from the get go.
It's been a while since I've seen Spiderman 3 so I was amazed-absolutely amazed- at how well the Sandman being the murderer of Ben Parker subplot was removed. You legit cant tell it was ever in.
These two edits serve to really reduce the bloat on this mess of a movie.
The Peter Harry fight worked REMARKABLY well as the introductory scene for the new goblin. I was absolutely amazed by the way that worked, and it was the best part of the edit for me.

I really appreciate that DonkeyKonga kept the Bully Peter arc mostly in its entirety. A lot of editors take that out, in turn taking the heart out of the entire movie and making it an irredeemable piece of comic book pablum. To me, the Peter MJ stuff is the backbone of this movie, the shining diamond within the cow excrement which is everything else here.
I do wish he would have kept Pete playing the piano though. Its a climactic moment for the only story that matters here, come on!

Now, this leads me to the only issues I have with the edit, and they are marginal issues at worst.
We could benefit from a teeny tiny bit more implying that Harry is faking his amnesia. Dont get me wrong, its perfectly understandable here to a remarkable degree, but I cant help but think like two little things would highlight harry's deviousness more.

First off after Harrys scene at the opening of the film and during the transition to the night sky which MJ and Peter are staring at, it would be really cool if we heard some kind of scream from Harry, like hes faking an injury. As it stands, the audience has no hint as to what Harry did to get in the hospital. A scream from Harry when the scene transitions to the night sky would be perfect.

Second, when harry is in the hospital bed and we see him smile after Peter leaves it would really serve the scene if, for like 1 more second we freeze framed on harry's face and then cross-faded to the next scene. Add a foreboding string at his smile and it would improve the moment immensely. As it stands, it comes across as pointlessly subtle. We dont need subtlety there. The audience is in on harrys plot, and just one second longer on Harrys face with a foreboding sound would alert the audience to speculate as to what exactly his scheme is.

Another issue with the narrative as it stands, when watching this, I couldnt help but wonder where the symbiote is for the first half of the film. I would be very interested to see an edit where earlier in the film, Pete takes the symbiote to Dr Connors, then later in the film Pete adopts the symbiote after being rejected by MJ. The DR Connors sequence felt almost tacked on with how late it came into the film. It would be much more cohesive for the plot and effective at showing Peters state of mind if Pete takes the symbiote to Dr Connors shortly after the parade, and THEN later in the film, after MJ rejects him he succombs to it. This would show just how much Peter has lost it.

Finally, the one scene that felt awkward in the narrative as it stands is the part at the end with the Sandman. Nothing was truncated or poorly edited about it mind you. Mainly it just lasted WAY too long. Just 15 seconds being shaved off that sequence at the end would go a long way. As it stands, Peter spends more time with the Sandman, with whom he now has no narrative connection, than he does his best friend HARRY. Harrys literally dying PETE! It made me really annoyed at peter, with how long he was just... standing.... there.... crying. With the way this edit works there was no need for that scene to last that long.

As always , this is just my opinion. If you read the changelist and those changes sound remotely sufficient for you, then I cant recommend this edit highly enough

EDIT: Subsequent to this review, the editor DonkeyKonga made two subtle but important changes to this edit which really put it over the top.
He added the subtle scene change with Harry in the hospital which I suggested, and it really works wonders.
It feels like it was written into the script.
He also changed the credits song, and this is a small change but trust me, when you see it it really works magic on the overall narrative of the film.
I've now amended my review with a higher score.

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I WILL NEVER WATCH THE ORIGINAL AGAIN

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This is a great edit of Spiderman 3 that all fans of the Raimi films should check out. Some very nice editing work in here specifically in the dancing scene at the jazz club, that is drastically improved. There's also some other interesting decisions the editor made that make this essential viewing. Great work, thanks for sharing. For some fans this will be the definitive Spiderman 3.

I may be handing out 10's too easily so I knocked off one point in the audio score because theirs a couple transitions that need MINOR tweaks. This shouldn't discourage anyone from checking this out. Just needs a little polishing is all IMO. I've reached out to the editor to let him know of both transitions to take a look at.

Great work

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Originally made for the creator of the cut*

Some changes you've made are really good and improve the overall pacing, but, I think the movie suffered from multiple changes made to the script, especially on Harry's side.
I don't really like Harry's amensia, but it is basically impossible to "remove it" from the film, so your take was not well explained and too rushed, just like other aspects of the movie, people who watch this without any context will not really get if Harry had or not amnesia, and that isn't your fault, it's impossible to "fix". Another thing, the worst change one by far in my opinion, was the fight scene between Harry and Peter, it just started randomly, being strange as they just had a argument a couple of minutes earlier, and at the beggining of the scene, Peter and Harry seem like they are having fun, also, the scene is very badly introduced, being cut directly to Peter on the sofa. Another problem I had with the movie, is the scene where Harry picks up the photo. That scene is without a doubt way better than the original Butler scene, but without Spiderman coming to talk with Harry, the scene gets extremely short and not-so-emocional, where's that scene with Peter talking to Harry, creates a more emocional feeling of Harry realising that his friends are his family, and he should forgive them. You could argue that your perspective makes Harry more independent of his choice, but it takes basically all of the emotion from the scene. Some other problems are for example the scene with the Sand Castle, from the Editor's Cut, that scene is very beautiful when out of context, but when you think about it, wouldn't Marko's daughter be scared of a hand coming out of the sand, as she DOESN'T know her dad is Sandman...

Overall, your cut has some good aspects, but it strips too much of Harry especially, and rushes their relation and some other things a bit, so I personally think the original is tied or even better, but it's okay. Thank you for reading, I give it a 7/10.

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Owner's reply July 16, 2023

I'm not sure what you mean about the amnesia. Its litterally explained when Peter gets a phone call and the female hospital employee tells him he is Harry's emergency contact. I dont see why any new viewer wouldnt get this. It's quite litterally explained: Harry has a vision of his dad. He tells him you know what you must do. Then Peter gets a phonecall. Harry has had a car accident and doesnt seem to remember anything. That's extremely suspicious lol. I disagree with you there tbh. It created far more tension when the audience knows something that Peter doesnt, which is that Harry might be faking his insomnia. Which makes Harry far more sinister and a worthwhile villain.

The fight with Harry in the original changes from day to night suddenly and so I chose to show more of the symbiote manipulation. This to built up to his 'murder' of Harry. All I did was show why Peter arrived at night. 'What took you so long?' even Harry mentions it in the original cut. So that's why I did it. I agree that the cut may seem abrupt, but the same can be said for the original. What exactly did Peter do all day in the original film? I think my edit tells a more complete story here.

I cut out some of the emotional stuff to give Harry more agency. I agree that it cuts some of the emotions, but I feel the movie has plenty of these moments already. Especially at the ending. And I think it makes zero sense for Peter to come to Harry for aid after blowing his face up. I kind of disagree and think the original is worse here.

Regarding sandmans scene, I think the child can feel her fathers presence, that's why shes not scared. But I think your take is definitely valid here.

Thank you for the review.

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