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Halloween II: The Return of Michael Myers
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Original Release Date:
2018/2021
Original Running Time:
212
Fanedit Release Date:
Fanedit Running Time:
136
Time Cut:
78
Time Added:
2
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Available in HD?
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Brief Synopsis:
A combo edit of Halloween (2018) and Halloween Kills made to feel like a singular experience both in narrative and runtime. Halloween Kills events have been shifted into the Halloween 2018 narrative while lots of music cues have been changed to better suit this particular edit. Some scenes have been cut to get us into the action sooner while other scenes have been cut due to poor audience reception (every single Tivoli bit is gone from Halloween Kills).
Intention:
My original intention was to just make a simple copy and paste edit of these two movies with the two edits I'd already done of them and then call it a day. As I really sat and took a look at them though I realized that there was so much more that could be done. You could definitely make this feel like its own unique viewing experience. My intention them became to cut the runtime of 2018 down even further and seriously restructure Kills.
Other Sources:
Halloween Kills Extended Cut
The Fog motion picture soundtrack by John Carpenter
Freesound.org sound effects
The Fog motion picture soundtrack by John Carpenter
Freesound.org sound effects
Special Thanks:
Thank you so much to ArtisDead for yet another great poster and both ArtisDead and JorytheGreat for being the first to preview this edit. Their contributions were greatly appreciated.
Release Information:
Digital
Cuts and Additions:
1. Halloween Kills 78 flashback used to start movie. Gunshots and dialogue from Halloween II (“call the police… tell the sheriff i shot him…”) play over newly constructed studio credits with “The Shape Stalks” from Halloween 78 extended into it.
2. Trimmed Lonnie being bullied.
3. Inserted scene of Lonnie seeing Michael behind bushes from Halloween Kills extended cut.
4. Cut Lonnie aplologizing for bullying Tommy Doyle to Michael.
5. Trimmed Lonnie’s dialogue to the cops.
6. Cut McCabe dialogue before being attacked. Shot cropped to maintain continuity.
7. Cut Hawkins talking to Loomis.
8. New opening credits created to more accurately represent this edit. Pumpkin from Halloween 2018 and score “Halloween Kills End Titles” used.
9. New “October 28th, 2018” title card added.
10. Trimmed Aaron and Dana talking about Michael.
11. Cut Sartain mentioning Tivoli and trimmed other moments with the mental patients.
12. Rescored very end of Smith’s Grove scene with “Mannequin Panic” from the Halloween 2018 soundtrack.
13. Cut Dana and Aaron meeting Laurie and Laurie watching Allyson in school. Gun range now first time we see her.
14. Added “October 30th, 2018” and “Haddonfield, Illinois” title cards.
15. Cut “peanut butter on my penis” line and trimmed Ray’s dialogue afterwords.
16. Trimmed dialogue with Allyson and her friends.
17. Cut Laurie dry firing shotgun with the gun right by her freaking face.
18. Cut Laurie drinking in her car.
19. Trimmed Ray’s dialogue at dinner.
20. Cut Laurie referring to Michael as “The Shape” at dinner.
21. Cut hunter and son stumbling upon bus crash. Cut Hawkins finding hunter’s body because of this.
22. Cut scene with Hawkins and Sheriff in the hospital with Sartain.
23. Trimmed Laurie watching news footage.
24. Cut entire scene of Laurie sneaking into Karen’s house.
25. Trimmed Michael’s attack on the Dana and Aaron.
26. Centered shot of Michael from the inside of the car after he’s retrieved his mask. Cut blank black screen that followed.
27. Removed two shots of trick or treaters to be repurposed later.
28. Trimmed initial Julian and Vicky scene.
29. Trimmed Dave arrival at Julian’s.
30. Inserted initial bar scene from Halloween Kills (Tommy’s speech). Masked out “Halloween Night 2018” from establishing shot.
31. Cut Vanessa and Marcus talking about botched Halloween party.
32. Drastically altered Tommy’s speech and trimmed 1978 flashbacks.
33. Cut Vicky pretending to talk to someone in Julian’s room.
34. Vicky’s attack trimmed with Julian’s dialogue omitted.
35. Repurposed trick or treater footage used to cut away from small children wearing Silver Shamrock masks. Done to prevent redundancy with teenagers from Kills who wear them.
36. Cut away from Silver Shamrock masks when Laurie pulls up to Julian’s house.
37. Trimmed Hawkins in Julian’s house.
38. Cut Hawkins seeing Dave’s tattoo.
39. Trimmed dialogue between sheriff and Hawkins and shots of Vicky’s body.
40. Trimmed scene of Laurie arriving at Karen’s house.
41. Rescored Allyson seeing Oscar’s body with “Michael Kills” from Halloween 2018. “Shape Hunts Allyson” repurposed later.
42. Trimmed Laurie giving guns to Ray and Karen.
43. Cut Sartain wearing Michael’s mask.
44. Inserted scene of Cameron finding Hawkin’s body from Halloween Kills.
45. Inserted bar scene two (the gang talks to the bartender, Cameron calls Lonnie).
46. Cut footage of Cameron at crime scene.
47. Cut banh mi sandwich talk with the cops.
48. Trimmed Michael stomping on Sartain’s head.
49. Cut shot of Michael watching the cops.
50. Trimmed Laurie turning off lights in her house.
51. Ray’s demise rescored with restructured “The Fog Enters Town” by John Carpenter with stinger added. “Ray’s Goodbye” repurposed later.
52. Cut Michael stumbling after killing Ray.
53. Added footsteps and sound of Karen picking up garage door opener.
54. Cut Allyson stumbling upon mannequins in the Forrest.
55. Trimmed Laurie looking for Michael as well as mannequin room scene.
56. Cut “Happy Halloween MIchael.”
57. House on fire trimmed and rescored with extended “The Shape Hunts Allyson” from Halloween 2018. Minor changes to sound design.
58. Cut closeup of Allyson holding knife.
59. Inserted scene of bar goers watching news footage.
60. Cut Tivoli and Julian out of news footage and cut parking lot scene with Tivoli. All Tivoli footage cut from Kills.
61. Cut scene of Laurie screaming “let it burn.”
62. Trimmed firefighter scene.
63. Trimmed elderly couple death scenes.
64. Cut scene with cops seeing massacre at Laurie’s compound.
65. Cut hospital scenes with Allyson seeing Sartain’s body.
66. Inserted Big John and Little John with trick or treaters. Trimmed beginning of the scene.
67. Trimmed Karen and Allyson talking to cops at the hospital.
68. Trimmed hallways scene with Karen, Allyson, and Cameron.
69. Cut Halloween 2018 flashbacks while Allyson is giving Laurie the knife.
70. Cut Allyson’s “Michael Myers has haunted this town for 40 years…”
71. Cut Tommy referencing his “altercation” with Michael earlier in the night as this doesn’t happen now.
72. Trimmed park scene (Marcus and Vanessa talking about gun, Lindsay talking to kids).
73. Trimmed Marcus’s death scene.
74. Cut music and recreated sound design for Michael looking at Vanessa’s body.
75. Rescored Michael vs Lindsay with a combo of “The Shape Kills” and “Ray’s Goodbye” from Halloween 2018. Trimmed scene.
76. Changed shot composition of Michael chasing Lindsay.
77. Trimmed Tommy’s dialogue at the park.
78. Cut scene with Lindsay talking to everyone by the cars after she’s been found.
79. Cut Brackett and random woman saying “evil dies tonight.”
80. Trimmed both Laurie stabbing herself with needle and her dialogue to Karen afterwards.
81. Moved up scene with map of Haddonfield in Lonnie’s car.
82. Cut entire second Big/Little John scene.
83. Cut entire Tivoli chase in the hospital and all small hospital bits included in it.
84. Cut hospital scene with Laurie and Hawkins talking about “Michael’s masterpiece” including second and third 1978 flashbacks.
85. Cut both the 1978 and 2018 flashbacks while Hawkins talks about Michael looking at his reflection.
86. Hawkins saying Michael’s “wants only one thing” played over a shot of the Myers house.
87. Cut Karen and Tommy in the parking lot.
88. Michael storms out of the closet earlier now.
89. Trimmed Michael slamming Cameron’s head on the stairs.
90. Cut Allyson yelling “ DO IT!” as Michael tries to stab her. Restructured “Unkillable” from Halloween Kills to do it.
91. Trimmed Karen goading Michael to chase her.
92. Cut Karen saying “gotcha” by the car as it’s too repetitive.
93. Cut Laurie’s final monologue. Restructured version of “Michael’s Legacy” used to accomplish this.
94. Cut Karen imagining 6 year old Michael in the window.
95. Finale restructured. We now see how Michael escaped the mob simultaneously with him murdering Karen.
96. Mob murders trimmed with some shots from extended cut used.
97. Michael looking at his reflection used as final shot.
98. Custom closing credits created to accurately represent the cast and crew of this edit.
99. “Halloween Kills End Titles” extended.
2. Trimmed Lonnie being bullied.
3. Inserted scene of Lonnie seeing Michael behind bushes from Halloween Kills extended cut.
4. Cut Lonnie aplologizing for bullying Tommy Doyle to Michael.
5. Trimmed Lonnie’s dialogue to the cops.
6. Cut McCabe dialogue before being attacked. Shot cropped to maintain continuity.
7. Cut Hawkins talking to Loomis.
8. New opening credits created to more accurately represent this edit. Pumpkin from Halloween 2018 and score “Halloween Kills End Titles” used.
9. New “October 28th, 2018” title card added.
10. Trimmed Aaron and Dana talking about Michael.
11. Cut Sartain mentioning Tivoli and trimmed other moments with the mental patients.
12. Rescored very end of Smith’s Grove scene with “Mannequin Panic” from the Halloween 2018 soundtrack.
13. Cut Dana and Aaron meeting Laurie and Laurie watching Allyson in school. Gun range now first time we see her.
14. Added “October 30th, 2018” and “Haddonfield, Illinois” title cards.
15. Cut “peanut butter on my penis” line and trimmed Ray’s dialogue afterwords.
16. Trimmed dialogue with Allyson and her friends.
17. Cut Laurie dry firing shotgun with the gun right by her freaking face.
18. Cut Laurie drinking in her car.
19. Trimmed Ray’s dialogue at dinner.
20. Cut Laurie referring to Michael as “The Shape” at dinner.
21. Cut hunter and son stumbling upon bus crash. Cut Hawkins finding hunter’s body because of this.
22. Cut scene with Hawkins and Sheriff in the hospital with Sartain.
23. Trimmed Laurie watching news footage.
24. Cut entire scene of Laurie sneaking into Karen’s house.
25. Trimmed Michael’s attack on the Dana and Aaron.
26. Centered shot of Michael from the inside of the car after he’s retrieved his mask. Cut blank black screen that followed.
27. Removed two shots of trick or treaters to be repurposed later.
28. Trimmed initial Julian and Vicky scene.
29. Trimmed Dave arrival at Julian’s.
30. Inserted initial bar scene from Halloween Kills (Tommy’s speech). Masked out “Halloween Night 2018” from establishing shot.
31. Cut Vanessa and Marcus talking about botched Halloween party.
32. Drastically altered Tommy’s speech and trimmed 1978 flashbacks.
33. Cut Vicky pretending to talk to someone in Julian’s room.
34. Vicky’s attack trimmed with Julian’s dialogue omitted.
35. Repurposed trick or treater footage used to cut away from small children wearing Silver Shamrock masks. Done to prevent redundancy with teenagers from Kills who wear them.
36. Cut away from Silver Shamrock masks when Laurie pulls up to Julian’s house.
37. Trimmed Hawkins in Julian’s house.
38. Cut Hawkins seeing Dave’s tattoo.
39. Trimmed dialogue between sheriff and Hawkins and shots of Vicky’s body.
40. Trimmed scene of Laurie arriving at Karen’s house.
41. Rescored Allyson seeing Oscar’s body with “Michael Kills” from Halloween 2018. “Shape Hunts Allyson” repurposed later.
42. Trimmed Laurie giving guns to Ray and Karen.
43. Cut Sartain wearing Michael’s mask.
44. Inserted scene of Cameron finding Hawkin’s body from Halloween Kills.
45. Inserted bar scene two (the gang talks to the bartender, Cameron calls Lonnie).
46. Cut footage of Cameron at crime scene.
47. Cut banh mi sandwich talk with the cops.
48. Trimmed Michael stomping on Sartain’s head.
49. Cut shot of Michael watching the cops.
50. Trimmed Laurie turning off lights in her house.
51. Ray’s demise rescored with restructured “The Fog Enters Town” by John Carpenter with stinger added. “Ray’s Goodbye” repurposed later.
52. Cut Michael stumbling after killing Ray.
53. Added footsteps and sound of Karen picking up garage door opener.
54. Cut Allyson stumbling upon mannequins in the Forrest.
55. Trimmed Laurie looking for Michael as well as mannequin room scene.
56. Cut “Happy Halloween MIchael.”
57. House on fire trimmed and rescored with extended “The Shape Hunts Allyson” from Halloween 2018. Minor changes to sound design.
58. Cut closeup of Allyson holding knife.
59. Inserted scene of bar goers watching news footage.
60. Cut Tivoli and Julian out of news footage and cut parking lot scene with Tivoli. All Tivoli footage cut from Kills.
61. Cut scene of Laurie screaming “let it burn.”
62. Trimmed firefighter scene.
63. Trimmed elderly couple death scenes.
64. Cut scene with cops seeing massacre at Laurie’s compound.
65. Cut hospital scenes with Allyson seeing Sartain’s body.
66. Inserted Big John and Little John with trick or treaters. Trimmed beginning of the scene.
67. Trimmed Karen and Allyson talking to cops at the hospital.
68. Trimmed hallways scene with Karen, Allyson, and Cameron.
69. Cut Halloween 2018 flashbacks while Allyson is giving Laurie the knife.
70. Cut Allyson’s “Michael Myers has haunted this town for 40 years…”
71. Cut Tommy referencing his “altercation” with Michael earlier in the night as this doesn’t happen now.
72. Trimmed park scene (Marcus and Vanessa talking about gun, Lindsay talking to kids).
73. Trimmed Marcus’s death scene.
74. Cut music and recreated sound design for Michael looking at Vanessa’s body.
75. Rescored Michael vs Lindsay with a combo of “The Shape Kills” and “Ray’s Goodbye” from Halloween 2018. Trimmed scene.
76. Changed shot composition of Michael chasing Lindsay.
77. Trimmed Tommy’s dialogue at the park.
78. Cut scene with Lindsay talking to everyone by the cars after she’s been found.
79. Cut Brackett and random woman saying “evil dies tonight.”
80. Trimmed both Laurie stabbing herself with needle and her dialogue to Karen afterwards.
81. Moved up scene with map of Haddonfield in Lonnie’s car.
82. Cut entire second Big/Little John scene.
83. Cut entire Tivoli chase in the hospital and all small hospital bits included in it.
84. Cut hospital scene with Laurie and Hawkins talking about “Michael’s masterpiece” including second and third 1978 flashbacks.
85. Cut both the 1978 and 2018 flashbacks while Hawkins talks about Michael looking at his reflection.
86. Hawkins saying Michael’s “wants only one thing” played over a shot of the Myers house.
87. Cut Karen and Tommy in the parking lot.
88. Michael storms out of the closet earlier now.
89. Trimmed Michael slamming Cameron’s head on the stairs.
90. Cut Allyson yelling “ DO IT!” as Michael tries to stab her. Restructured “Unkillable” from Halloween Kills to do it.
91. Trimmed Karen goading Michael to chase her.
92. Cut Karen saying “gotcha” by the car as it’s too repetitive.
93. Cut Laurie’s final monologue. Restructured version of “Michael’s Legacy” used to accomplish this.
94. Cut Karen imagining 6 year old Michael in the window.
95. Finale restructured. We now see how Michael escaped the mob simultaneously with him murdering Karen.
96. Mob murders trimmed with some shots from extended cut used.
97. Michael looking at his reflection used as final shot.
98. Custom closing credits created to accurately represent the cast and crew of this edit.
99. “Halloween Kills End Titles” extended.
User reviews
8 reviews
Overall rating
9.9
Audio/Video Quality
10.0(8)
Audio Editing
10.0(8)
Visual Editing
10.0(8)
Narrative
9.8(8)
Enjoyment
9.9(8)
Overall rating
9.8
Audio/Video Quality
10.0
Audio Editing
10.0
Visual Editing
10.0
Narrative
9.0
Enjoyment
10.0
Wow.
This is my first review of a fanedit, and one of the first fanedits I've seen. I can't forget how disappointed I was watching Halloween Kills in theaters. I also wasn't blown away by Halloween 2018, but I certainly appreciated the nods to the original and overall I found it to be a serviceable addition to the franchise. But Ryantology really picked some great highlights of both films to make for a leaner and ultimately more engaging slasher.
The editing is very clean, I love that it begins with the Kills flashback intro and I think cutting fluff like all of the "Evil Dies Tonight" chanting and some of the lackluster humor made beats really more impactful. Also having the researchers digging up Michael's past in the first half made Karen's calling out Michael at the end more impactful as well. I really like the addition of some classic Carpenter Fog music as well, it really plays better than his newer Halloween score. Very much recommend, and I'm curious to see if Ryantology can salvage Halloween Ends
This is my first review of a fanedit, and one of the first fanedits I've seen. I can't forget how disappointed I was watching Halloween Kills in theaters. I also wasn't blown away by Halloween 2018, but I certainly appreciated the nods to the original and overall I found it to be a serviceable addition to the franchise. But Ryantology really picked some great highlights of both films to make for a leaner and ultimately more engaging slasher.
The editing is very clean, I love that it begins with the Kills flashback intro and I think cutting fluff like all of the "Evil Dies Tonight" chanting and some of the lackluster humor made beats really more impactful. Also having the researchers digging up Michael's past in the first half made Karen's calling out Michael at the end more impactful as well. I really like the addition of some classic Carpenter Fog music as well, it really plays better than his newer Halloween score. Very much recommend, and I'm curious to see if Ryantology can salvage Halloween Ends
User Review
Do you recommend this edit?
Yes
Format Watched?
Digital
A
Overall rating
10.0
Audio/Video Quality
10.0
Audio Editing
10.0
Visual Editing
10.0
Narrative
10.0
Enjoyment
10.0
Awesome job here. This is a real treat for Halloween fans. I noticed no issues at all with the video or audio editing. Everything about it worked. It's a significant improvement over the theatrical releases and I don't know why anyone would waste time with the theatrical versions with this gem now available to enjoy.
10 out of 10 across the board. Thank you so much from one Halloween fan to another.
10 out of 10 across the board. Thank you so much from one Halloween fan to another.
User Review
Do you recommend this edit?
Yes
Format Watched?
Digital
P
Overall rating
10.0
Audio/Video Quality
10.0
Audio Editing
10.0
Visual Editing
10.0
Narrative
10.0
Enjoyment
10.0
Absolutely incredible! I'm one of many who loved 2018 but was...less than thrilled about the direction they went with Kills (now with hindsight we were blessed with Kills when looking at it's sequel but that's another topic.), and was extremely impressed with the way you sifted through the clutter of both films and managed to make their plots feel much more intertwined due to theme changes and removals. The cuts were brilliant, the music choices, my god the music choices(!). There's some great substituted cue placement throughout with one in particular ("The Shape Hunts Allyson") making me genuinely get excited once it popped up in its new place! Overall this will be my new go-to way to watch the newest version of the Strode saga no doubt! Highly recommended!
User Review
Do you recommend this edit?
Yes
Format Watched?
Digital
J
Overall rating
10.0
Audio/Video Quality
10.0
Audio Editing
10.0
Visual Editing
10.0
Narrative
10.0
Enjoyment
10.0
Truly outstanding! As someone who liked both Halloween (2018) and Kills, this edit keeps what works and removes what doesn't, effectively streamlining the entire experience while keeping a totally cohesive narrative! The flow between the two movies is seamless.
If I had to nitpick, I agree with another reviewer that mentioned how abruptly the film ends. There's not much time to process the final twist. I think this edit is short enough that adding the alternate ending from extended cut of Kills would be the perfect cherry on top. Still, a great fan edit nonetheless!
If I had to nitpick, I agree with another reviewer that mentioned how abruptly the film ends. There's not much time to process the final twist. I think this edit is short enough that adding the alternate ending from extended cut of Kills would be the perfect cherry on top. Still, a great fan edit nonetheless!
User Review
Do you recommend this edit?
Yes
Format Watched?
Digital
J
Overall rating
9.6
Audio/Video Quality
10.0
Audio Editing
10.0
Visual Editing
10.0
Narrative
9.0
Enjoyment
9.0
I was absolutely stunned when I saw how well Kills was narratively interwoven with Halloween 2018. It's impeccable and the narrative doesn't miss a beat. I was similarly floored with how well the climax of 2018 was transformed into an impactful sequence but also one that doesn't feel entirely like the climax of the movie. It's more like how the mid-film sequence in a Mission: Impossible movie is probably the biggest sequence but there's still another half of the movie to go.
Narratively, the edits to Kills works pretty well. There's a few elements that I do miss. Laurie is in this version far less than even in the theatrical cut of Kills and that's this edit's biggest issue. She really falls off and doesn't even show up anywhere in the finale, which makes the moment where she takes the shot of painkillers make even less of a point here because she doesn't do anything after this scene.
The finale is too abrupt. There's not a moment where the audience comes down after a pretty great finale switcharoo where the "Michael Survived" is shown as a twist, which is really effective. Perhaps, in order to give Laurie a little more, using the extended edition finale (the phone call) would've helped both of these elements.
Another slight nitpick: since we remove the podcasters interviewing Laurie, we aren't really given an location overview of Laurie's compound. I don't believe we even have a good establishing shot of her house until much later in the film. I did like turning the podcasters into investigative journalists, though. That element worked quite well.
Narratively, the edits to Kills works pretty well. There's a few elements that I do miss. Laurie is in this version far less than even in the theatrical cut of Kills and that's this edit's biggest issue. She really falls off and doesn't even show up anywhere in the finale, which makes the moment where she takes the shot of painkillers make even less of a point here because she doesn't do anything after this scene.
The finale is too abrupt. There's not a moment where the audience comes down after a pretty great finale switcharoo where the "Michael Survived" is shown as a twist, which is really effective. Perhaps, in order to give Laurie a little more, using the extended edition finale (the phone call) would've helped both of these elements.
Another slight nitpick: since we remove the podcasters interviewing Laurie, we aren't really given an location overview of Laurie's compound. I don't believe we even have a good establishing shot of her house until much later in the film. I did like turning the podcasters into investigative journalists, though. That element worked quite well.
User Review
Do you recommend this edit?
Yes
Format Watched?
Digital
W