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Terminator 2 [raymix]
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Original Movie Title:
Franchise:
Fanedit Type:
Original Release Date:
1991
Original Running Time:
153
Fanedit Release Date:
Fanedit Running Time:
125
Time Cut:
23
Time Added:
1
Subtitles Available?
Available in HD?
Additional Links:
Brief Synopsis:
I've always wanted versions of the first two Terminator films that don't spoil the plot upfront, but instead let the story play out in more of a noir mystery style. This is the second of those two edits.
Intention:
My goal was to create a version of the film that doesn't explain the plot upfront, but instead allows the story unfold naturally as the film progresses & saves it's surprises.
Additional Notes:
No explanatory text/narration- We're dropped in blind & the story tells itself. No dates mentioned- This keeps the future a threat in our present time. No Terminator POV- It's spoilery for my intentions & looks too primitive. No visions of the future- It's also spoilery for my intentions & I like keeping the audience in the present. I've also made many additional cuts & alterations to assemble my own ideal version of the story.
Other Sources:
Video-
-Terminator 2: Judgement Day (Lionsgate bluray, 2015)
Additional Audio-
-Terminator 2: Judgement Day score (Varèse Sarabande Records, 1991)
-Guitars, Cadillacs by Dwight Yokam (from the album Guitars Cadillacs Ect Ect, 1986)
-sound effects (youtube.com)
-Terminator 2: Judgement Day (Lionsgate bluray, 2015)
Additional Audio-
-Terminator 2: Judgement Day score (Varèse Sarabande Records, 1991)
-Guitars, Cadillacs by Dwight Yokam (from the album Guitars Cadillacs Ect Ect, 1986)
-sound effects (youtube.com)
Release Information:
Digital
Editing Details:
I tried to stay true to the original editing style set by Conrad Buff, Mark Goldblatt & Richard A. Harris.
Though my editing is extensive, I didn't want anything to seem obviously altered.
Though my editing is extensive, I didn't want anything to seem obviously altered.
Cuts and Additions:
Based on the Extended Cut
PRODUCTION CREDITS-
-added the Fanedit.org logo.
-added my fanedit production logo.
-added "A James Cameron Film" credit.
-cut the opening scene showing the future.
-cut Sarah's opening narration.
-cut the opening credits.
-cut the title.
ARRIVAL-
-the time-portal opens & closes faster.
-new music begins as the Terminator stands. (T2 Main Title)
-extended the shot of the Terminator looking towards the bar.
-cut the Terminators POV.
TITLE CARD-
-new title. (simply, Terminator 2)
-added a new title card.
-new sound effects during title.
-new music fades into the original soundtrack as title ends.
INSIDE THE BAR-
-shuffled a few shots as the Terminator walks across the room.
-cut the Terminators POV as it scans the room.
-cut the Terminators POV as it scans for fitting clothes.
-the biker doesn't blow smoke in the Terminators face.
-cut the Terminators POV as the biker blows smoke into it's face.
-added new sound effects. (talking & bar sounds)
-replaced music to match the new edit. (Guitars/Cadillacs by Dwight Yokam)
OUTSIDE THE BAR-
-cut this entire scene.
HOSPITAL TOUR/SARAH IN HER ROOM-
-cut this entire scene.
T-1000 GOES TO JOHN'S HOUSE-
-moved this scene to later on.
SARAH IN THE HOSPITAL-
-added the establishing shot of Pescadero Hospital, cut from earlier.
-cut Sarah's dream about Reese & the future.
-cut Sarah saying that she knows the date the machines become self-aware.
-cut Sarah naming the date.
-moved the scene at Cyberdyne to later on.
-smoother edit when Sarah mentions that she's shown improvement.
RELICS AT CYBERDYNE-
-inserted the scene of Miles Dyson at Cyberdyne, cut from earlier.
T-1000 GOES TO JOHN'S HOUSE-
-inserted the scene of the T-1000 questioning John's foster parents, cut from earlier.
FOLLOWING JOHN TO THE MALL-
-cut a shot of the Terminaor's POV as it identifies John.
MALL GETAWAY-
-adjusted the contrast as the T-1000 recovers on the floor to better match surrounding shots.
-John doesn't have trouble starting his bike.
-cut a shot of the T-1000 coming down the stairs.
FLOOD CHANNEL CHASE-
-cut a short shot of John on his bike.
-cut a short shot of the truck in pursuit.
-shortened the landing when the Terminator drives off the ramp.
STOP N' CHAT-
-cut John saying "OK, timeout! Stop the bike!"
-cut John saying "...You are a Terminator, right?" & the Terminators response.
-cut John saying "This is intense. Get a grip, John."
-John doesn't poke the Terminator as much.
-cut the Terminator saying "30 years from now..."
-cut John saying "This is deep."
T-1000 STEALS ANOTHER COP CAR-
-cut this entire scene.
T-1000 KILLS JOHN'S DOG-
-cut this entire scene.
HANGIN' WITH THE TERMINATOR-
-cut the first time John yells "Get this psycho off of me!"
-John doesn't ask why he was let go, he figures it out on his own.
-cut John's "Yes!" when the Terminator does what he commands.
-cut John saying "Cool. My own Terminator."
-cut the Terminator saying "...I'm a Terminator."
-cut John saying "Listen to me very carefully. You're not a Terminator anymore. Got that?"
-cut John saying "What do you mean "why"? You just can't."
-cut the Terminators 2nd "Why?"
HOSPITAL ESCAPE-
-cut the orderly licking Sarah's face.
-cut a short shot of the Terminator running towards the elevator.
-shortened the shot of the guard getting out of the car after Sarah shoots.
-cut the Terminator throwing the guard.
-shortened the shot of the T-1000 forming in the elevator.
-shortened the shot of the T-1000 coming out of the elevator.
-cut a shot of the T-1000 running towards the car.
IN THE CAR-
-cut John confirming that the T-1000 isn't still chasing them.
-cut Sarah asking John if he's ok.
-cut Sarah saying "I didn't need your help, I can take care of myself."
-cut the Terminator asking John "What's wrong with your eyes?" & John's "Nothing."
TERMINATOR BRAIN SURGERY-
-cut the Terminators POV as it looks into the mirror.
-cut the Terminators POV as it switches off.
-cut John saying "But he's my friend, alright?"
-cut some of the argument between Sarah & John.
-cut the Terminator reactivating.
ON THE ROAD AGAIN-
-cut John trying to teach the Terminator slang phrases.
ROADSIDE REST STOP-
-cut John trying to teach the Terminator to smile.
FUTURE EVENTS RUNDOWN-
-cut the dates from the Terminators chain of future events.
AT ENRIQUE'S DESERT CAMP-
-cut the Terminator saying "..."Uncle Bob"?"
-cut John talking about how this was all normal to him growing up.
-cut the Terminator's smile when he picks up the minigun.
WORKING ON THE TRUCK-
-cut John mentioning when he'll met his dad & what date he sends him back to.
-cut the Terminator asking "Why do you cry?" & John's explanation.
-cut the continuing "crying" conversation as they go to start the truck.
-new sound effects to replace the dialog. (wind, footsteps, leather jacket, hand claps)
-masked Arnold's mouth so de doesn't appear to be talking.
-replaced with John's dialog with "You could lighten up, yourself." cut from earlier.
-cut the Terminator saying "No problem-o."
-cut the "High Five!" scene.
-cut Sarah's narration.
-cut Sarah's dream about the future.
GOING TO STOP SARAH-
-cut the Terminator suggesting that killing Dyson could prevent the war.
-cut John's lecture about not killing people.
AT THE DYSON'S-
-shortened John & Sarah's chat.
-altered the music starting as the Terminator rips the flesh off his arm.
-increased the volume on Dyson's "Oh my god" as he recognizes the robot arm.
-extended the shot of the Terminator's robot hand.
-slight zoom-in on the shot of the Terminators robot hand.
-fade-out on the shot of the Terminators robot hand.
-cut Sarah's narration.
-fade-in on the shot of Miles Dyson, after having heard the story.
-altered music fades back into the original soundtrack as Miles speaks.
HIT THE ROAD TO CYBERDYNE-
-removed Sarah's narration.
FENDING OFF THE COPS-
-cut the helicopter pilot saying "That's a damn minigun!"
-cut the Terminators POV as it surveys the area.
-cut the Terminator saying "I'll be back."
-cut the cop saying "Ow, it hurts!"
-cut the Terminators POV as it scans for casualties.
-cut the T-1000 telling the helicopter pilot to "Get out."
-cut the helicopter pilots goofy head nodding response.
HIGHWAY CHASE-
-altered the concerned driver's goofy "Hello?"
-cut a short rear-screen shot of the Terminator reloading.
AT THE STEEL MILL-
-cut the Terminator saying "Hasta la vista, baby."
-cut two shots of John & Sarah getting out of the truck.
-cut some shots of the liquid metal reforming.
-cut the T-1000's arm malfunctioning.
-cut the T-1000's feet malfunctioning.
-cut the Terminators POV as it searches for the T-1000.
-shortened a shot of Sarah as the T-1000 threatens her.
-cut a shot of the fake Terminator head getting bashed.
-cut the Terminators POV as it reboots.
-cut the T-1000's feet malfunctioning.
-cut the T-1000 morphing into it's victims as it melts.
-cut the Terminator saying "I need a vacation."
-cut the Terminator telling John he knows about crying.
-cut the Terminator's thumbs-up.
-cut Sarah's closing narration.
-added closing "No Fate..." text.
END CREDITS-
-added the title card before the credits roll.
-slight speed-up on the end credits text.
-replaced the GnR song during the end credits with SWAT Team Attacks.
POST CREDITS-
-added a shot of the Terminator in flames, cut from the opening credits.
--cropped the shot tight, focusing on the eyes.
-added the track Trust Me.
-added my production logo to the end.
PRODUCTION CREDITS-
-added the Fanedit.org logo.
-added my fanedit production logo.
-added "A James Cameron Film" credit.
-cut the opening scene showing the future.
-cut Sarah's opening narration.
-cut the opening credits.
-cut the title.
ARRIVAL-
-the time-portal opens & closes faster.
-new music begins as the Terminator stands. (T2 Main Title)
-extended the shot of the Terminator looking towards the bar.
-cut the Terminators POV.
TITLE CARD-
-new title. (simply, Terminator 2)
-added a new title card.
-new sound effects during title.
-new music fades into the original soundtrack as title ends.
INSIDE THE BAR-
-shuffled a few shots as the Terminator walks across the room.
-cut the Terminators POV as it scans the room.
-cut the Terminators POV as it scans for fitting clothes.
-the biker doesn't blow smoke in the Terminators face.
-cut the Terminators POV as the biker blows smoke into it's face.
-added new sound effects. (talking & bar sounds)
-replaced music to match the new edit. (Guitars/Cadillacs by Dwight Yokam)
OUTSIDE THE BAR-
-cut this entire scene.
HOSPITAL TOUR/SARAH IN HER ROOM-
-cut this entire scene.
T-1000 GOES TO JOHN'S HOUSE-
-moved this scene to later on.
SARAH IN THE HOSPITAL-
-added the establishing shot of Pescadero Hospital, cut from earlier.
-cut Sarah's dream about Reese & the future.
-cut Sarah saying that she knows the date the machines become self-aware.
-cut Sarah naming the date.
-moved the scene at Cyberdyne to later on.
-smoother edit when Sarah mentions that she's shown improvement.
RELICS AT CYBERDYNE-
-inserted the scene of Miles Dyson at Cyberdyne, cut from earlier.
T-1000 GOES TO JOHN'S HOUSE-
-inserted the scene of the T-1000 questioning John's foster parents, cut from earlier.
FOLLOWING JOHN TO THE MALL-
-cut a shot of the Terminaor's POV as it identifies John.
MALL GETAWAY-
-adjusted the contrast as the T-1000 recovers on the floor to better match surrounding shots.
-John doesn't have trouble starting his bike.
-cut a shot of the T-1000 coming down the stairs.
FLOOD CHANNEL CHASE-
-cut a short shot of John on his bike.
-cut a short shot of the truck in pursuit.
-shortened the landing when the Terminator drives off the ramp.
STOP N' CHAT-
-cut John saying "OK, timeout! Stop the bike!"
-cut John saying "...You are a Terminator, right?" & the Terminators response.
-cut John saying "This is intense. Get a grip, John."
-John doesn't poke the Terminator as much.
-cut the Terminator saying "30 years from now..."
-cut John saying "This is deep."
T-1000 STEALS ANOTHER COP CAR-
-cut this entire scene.
T-1000 KILLS JOHN'S DOG-
-cut this entire scene.
HANGIN' WITH THE TERMINATOR-
-cut the first time John yells "Get this psycho off of me!"
-John doesn't ask why he was let go, he figures it out on his own.
-cut John's "Yes!" when the Terminator does what he commands.
-cut John saying "Cool. My own Terminator."
-cut the Terminator saying "...I'm a Terminator."
-cut John saying "Listen to me very carefully. You're not a Terminator anymore. Got that?"
-cut John saying "What do you mean "why"? You just can't."
-cut the Terminators 2nd "Why?"
HOSPITAL ESCAPE-
-cut the orderly licking Sarah's face.
-cut a short shot of the Terminator running towards the elevator.
-shortened the shot of the guard getting out of the car after Sarah shoots.
-cut the Terminator throwing the guard.
-shortened the shot of the T-1000 forming in the elevator.
-shortened the shot of the T-1000 coming out of the elevator.
-cut a shot of the T-1000 running towards the car.
IN THE CAR-
-cut John confirming that the T-1000 isn't still chasing them.
-cut Sarah asking John if he's ok.
-cut Sarah saying "I didn't need your help, I can take care of myself."
-cut the Terminator asking John "What's wrong with your eyes?" & John's "Nothing."
TERMINATOR BRAIN SURGERY-
-cut the Terminators POV as it looks into the mirror.
-cut the Terminators POV as it switches off.
-cut John saying "But he's my friend, alright?"
-cut some of the argument between Sarah & John.
-cut the Terminator reactivating.
ON THE ROAD AGAIN-
-cut John trying to teach the Terminator slang phrases.
ROADSIDE REST STOP-
-cut John trying to teach the Terminator to smile.
FUTURE EVENTS RUNDOWN-
-cut the dates from the Terminators chain of future events.
AT ENRIQUE'S DESERT CAMP-
-cut the Terminator saying "..."Uncle Bob"?"
-cut John talking about how this was all normal to him growing up.
-cut the Terminator's smile when he picks up the minigun.
WORKING ON THE TRUCK-
-cut John mentioning when he'll met his dad & what date he sends him back to.
-cut the Terminator asking "Why do you cry?" & John's explanation.
-cut the continuing "crying" conversation as they go to start the truck.
-new sound effects to replace the dialog. (wind, footsteps, leather jacket, hand claps)
-masked Arnold's mouth so de doesn't appear to be talking.
-replaced with John's dialog with "You could lighten up, yourself." cut from earlier.
-cut the Terminator saying "No problem-o."
-cut the "High Five!" scene.
-cut Sarah's narration.
-cut Sarah's dream about the future.
GOING TO STOP SARAH-
-cut the Terminator suggesting that killing Dyson could prevent the war.
-cut John's lecture about not killing people.
AT THE DYSON'S-
-shortened John & Sarah's chat.
-altered the music starting as the Terminator rips the flesh off his arm.
-increased the volume on Dyson's "Oh my god" as he recognizes the robot arm.
-extended the shot of the Terminator's robot hand.
-slight zoom-in on the shot of the Terminators robot hand.
-fade-out on the shot of the Terminators robot hand.
-cut Sarah's narration.
-fade-in on the shot of Miles Dyson, after having heard the story.
-altered music fades back into the original soundtrack as Miles speaks.
HIT THE ROAD TO CYBERDYNE-
-removed Sarah's narration.
FENDING OFF THE COPS-
-cut the helicopter pilot saying "That's a damn minigun!"
-cut the Terminators POV as it surveys the area.
-cut the Terminator saying "I'll be back."
-cut the cop saying "Ow, it hurts!"
-cut the Terminators POV as it scans for casualties.
-cut the T-1000 telling the helicopter pilot to "Get out."
-cut the helicopter pilots goofy head nodding response.
HIGHWAY CHASE-
-altered the concerned driver's goofy "Hello?"
-cut a short rear-screen shot of the Terminator reloading.
AT THE STEEL MILL-
-cut the Terminator saying "Hasta la vista, baby."
-cut two shots of John & Sarah getting out of the truck.
-cut some shots of the liquid metal reforming.
-cut the T-1000's arm malfunctioning.
-cut the T-1000's feet malfunctioning.
-cut the Terminators POV as it searches for the T-1000.
-shortened a shot of Sarah as the T-1000 threatens her.
-cut a shot of the fake Terminator head getting bashed.
-cut the Terminators POV as it reboots.
-cut the T-1000's feet malfunctioning.
-cut the T-1000 morphing into it's victims as it melts.
-cut the Terminator saying "I need a vacation."
-cut the Terminator telling John he knows about crying.
-cut the Terminator's thumbs-up.
-cut Sarah's closing narration.
-added closing "No Fate..." text.
END CREDITS-
-added the title card before the credits roll.
-slight speed-up on the end credits text.
-replaced the GnR song during the end credits with SWAT Team Attacks.
POST CREDITS-
-added a shot of the Terminator in flames, cut from the opening credits.
--cropped the shot tight, focusing on the eyes.
-added the track Trust Me.
-added my production logo to the end.
User reviews
4 reviews
Overall rating
9.6
Audio/Video Quality
9.5(4)
Audio Editing
10.0(4)
Visual Editing
9.8(4)
Narrative
9.3(4)
Enjoyment
9.3(4)
(Updated: February 26, 2024)
Overall rating
8.6
Audio/Video Quality
8.0
Audio Editing
10.0
Visual Editing
9.0
Narrative
8.0
Enjoyment
8.0
Likes:
-many small changes that make a big difference
-many of the cuts remove scenes/parts of scenes that don't add to the story and possibly detract from it
-removal of all scenes from the future provides a very unique viewing experience
-removal of a lot of cheesy scenes throughout dramatically improves the seriousness of the horror/thriller vibe
Dislikes:
-no 4k version with high quality audio
-time portal opening/closing scene shortening feels unnecessary
-removal of all shots from viewpoint of terminator feels a bit heavy-handed, mainly would like to see the minigun/grenade launcher "0 casualties" shot returned as it adds to the charm without being cheesy, compared with, say, the smile scene which is cheesy as hell (guilty pleasure scene :D)
Recommendations:
-Would like to see the Terminator 2 eye fix scene by CORDZ added. This adds subtle eye movements to the ending scene where the terminator's eye is not moving in the film. It is beautiful work - LINK - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc9PCYjX4mM&t=3s
-Would like to see some scenes of the future returned (elaborated below)
-Would like to see the bike jump scene in the canal replaced with the updated 4k version (can clearly tell it is stunt double)
-Would like to see a 4k version (I know the 4k blu ray is considered a bad transfer by many, but I prefer that version even though I am definitely in the minority)
-Would like to see the end credits scene removed, as this films existence should mean no more future war, otherwise everything leading up to this point has been pointless
I consider this a damn good edit of T2. The removal of the future scene at the beginning is the biggest detraction for me, as I feel showing few scenes of the future is better than none because we get to see what will happen if they don't stop it. Without that, it lessens the impact of both T1 and T2. I'd like to see the T3 future scene added (minus the bottle dropping) to the beginning of the film. Definitely my favorite fan edit of T2 so far. No 4k and no future scenes detract enough for me to keep me from saying it is better than the original, but the massive improvements mean this is edit is a must-have in any terminator series fan's library. Thanks to the editor for your hard work!
-many small changes that make a big difference
-many of the cuts remove scenes/parts of scenes that don't add to the story and possibly detract from it
-removal of all scenes from the future provides a very unique viewing experience
-removal of a lot of cheesy scenes throughout dramatically improves the seriousness of the horror/thriller vibe
Dislikes:
-no 4k version with high quality audio
-time portal opening/closing scene shortening feels unnecessary
-removal of all shots from viewpoint of terminator feels a bit heavy-handed, mainly would like to see the minigun/grenade launcher "0 casualties" shot returned as it adds to the charm without being cheesy, compared with, say, the smile scene which is cheesy as hell (guilty pleasure scene :D)
Recommendations:
-Would like to see the Terminator 2 eye fix scene by CORDZ added. This adds subtle eye movements to the ending scene where the terminator's eye is not moving in the film. It is beautiful work - LINK - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc9PCYjX4mM&t=3s
-Would like to see some scenes of the future returned (elaborated below)
-Would like to see the bike jump scene in the canal replaced with the updated 4k version (can clearly tell it is stunt double)
-Would like to see a 4k version (I know the 4k blu ray is considered a bad transfer by many, but I prefer that version even though I am definitely in the minority)
-Would like to see the end credits scene removed, as this films existence should mean no more future war, otherwise everything leading up to this point has been pointless
I consider this a damn good edit of T2. The removal of the future scene at the beginning is the biggest detraction for me, as I feel showing few scenes of the future is better than none because we get to see what will happen if they don't stop it. Without that, it lessens the impact of both T1 and T2. I'd like to see the T3 future scene added (minus the bottle dropping) to the beginning of the film. Definitely my favorite fan edit of T2 so far. No 4k and no future scenes detract enough for me to keep me from saying it is better than the original, but the massive improvements mean this is edit is a must-have in any terminator series fan's library. Thanks to the editor for your hard work!
User Review
Do you recommend this edit?
Yes
Format Watched?
Digital
S
(Updated: October 13, 2023)
Overall rating
10.0
Audio/Video Quality
10.0
Audio Editing
10.0
Visual Editing
10.0
Narrative
10.0
Enjoyment
10.0
While there are many Terminator 2 fan edits out there, this one is one of the better ones that exist. This fan edit compliments Ray Danger's Terminator work and adds to his long history of making excellent fan edits. Once again I'm impressed by the fact he removed the T-800 heads up display like he did in his Terminator edit. The HUD is a bit dated and isn't missed in this edit either. I'm also once again in favor of his decision to remove the flash-forward scenes in the future. The nuclear explosion is a great scene as well as the future war scenes but they are not really missed in the big picture of this double fan edit. The trimming of the many scenes throughout the movie were well chosen and really tighten up the flow as well as the action of the movie. I enjoyed the addition of the chip reset deleted scene but I would have preferred the entire scene rather than the slightly truncated version in this edit, Overall, I'm very satisfied with this fan edit and think it's a worthy addition to anyone's fan edit collection. While it won't be my go to for watching this movie, it's a great alternative, especially with this fan editor's previous Terminator fan edit made to compliment it. Well done.
User Review
Do you recommend this edit?
Yes
Format Watched?
Digital
R
Overall rating
9.6
Audio/Video Quality
10.0
Audio Editing
10.0
Visual Editing
10.0
Narrative
9.0
Enjoyment
9.0
Ray continues his straight-to-business approach from the first film. While that style fit the 1984 film like a glove, here the editing is much more extensive for a film with a very different tone and approach. Ray's work is technically excellent and his cuts are seamless and well placed. Personally I think it makes for a much weaker film in many respects (losing a lot of the charm that made the theatrical so fun and special), but if you're looking for a version of T2 more in line with the first film, you certainly can't go wrong here.
D
Overall rating
10.0
Audio/Video Quality
10.0
Audio Editing
10.0
Visual Editing
10.0
Narrative
10.0
Enjoyment
10.0
John is almost tolerable in this edit and that alone makes it a keeper for me. As with the edit of the first movie, keeping the story in the present works very well to add suspense back into a movie I've seen so many times. Well done, thank you!
User Review
Do you recommend this edit?
Yes
Format Watched?
Digital
D