Mission: Impossible 2 - The Spence Edit

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2000
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Brief Synopsis:
- Replace the majority of the music with music from other films in the series.
- Up the pace. This movie has a weird structure in that there really isn't a big action scene till almost halfway through the film, and then it's just non-stop action for the second half. The middle third of the film needs some serious trims to get the film moving.
- Remove a lot of the over the top John Woo moments. I love John Woo, and I definitely still want it to feel like a John Woo film, but they go so hard on some of his trademarks that it ventures into parody. Slow motion scenes that drag on or show the same shot from 5 different angles will be trimmed. Some of the slow-mo will be trimmed just for action pacing.
Intention:
Mission Impossible is my favorite franchise, I've enjoyed every film in the series so far. However, I always found Mi-2 to stand out from the group a bit. I really enjoy the story of the film and some of the action beats are great, but it feels incredibly dated. It sticks out so much because it's the only film in the series that is so clearly from the time it was made. It's full of late 90's/ early 2000's rock music, Matrix-y slow motion, and other "cool for the time" elements that haven't aged well at all.

But! I think there's a really good movie in there. The script, by the legendary Robert Towne, is a solid Hitchcock esque caper full of twists, turns, backstabs and reveals. The performances overall are great, with Tom Cruise giving a charming turn as a softer and more romantic Ethan, a deliciously dirtbag villain, and one of the best female leads the series has had. Also, though they lay the "John Woo-ness" on a little too thick at times, the action is well staged and choreographed.

So the goal here is to remove the dated elements of MI-2, pick up the pace, and bring it more in line with the other films in the seires.
Other Sources:
Additional music from the following films was utilized in this edit:
Mission: Impossible by Danny Elfman
Mission: Impossible III by Michael Giacchino
Mission: Impossible Ghost Protocol by Michael Giacchino
Mission: Impossible Rogue Nation by Joe Kraemer
Mission: Impossible Fallout by Lorne Balfe
Bad Times at the El Royale by Michael Giacchino
Special Thanks:
ArtisDead
AdvisorOk4636
Darth Kermit
BionicBob
L8wrtr
Release Information:
Digital
Editing Details:
Overall goals:
- Replace the majority of the music with music from other films in the series.
- Up the pace. This movie has a weird structure in that there really isn't a big action scene till almost halfway through the film, and then it's just non-stop action for the second half. The middle third of the film needs some serious trims to get the film moving.
- Remove a lot of the over the top John Woo moments. I love John Woo, and I definitely still want it to feel like a John Woo film, but they go so hard on some of his trademarks that it ventures into parody. Slow motion scenes that drag on or show the same shot from 5 different angles will be trimmed. Some of the slow-mo will be trimmed just for action pacing.

Here's a more detailed cutlist of what I've done so far, I'll update it as I get further in.
- Remove the opening sequence that explains Chimera, as it gets reiterated multiple times later on. The film now starts on the plane.
- Remove Ethan climbing the mountain. It's cool but useless. It's mentioned that he was on vacation later, which gives enough set up and gets the movie moving.
- We now transition from the plane crashing to an all new title sequence that's more in keeping with the later films.
- We and Naya do not see Ethan until he pops up behind her in the bathtub. This gives a more intriguing start.
- Trimmed some of the car crash ballet so it doesn't feel like they're staring at each other for 3 minutes straight.
- Trimmed a little of the bedroom scene when Ethan and Naya wake up for pacing.
- Trimmed Hopkins' line to just "She's a woman, she's got all the training she needs." Same effect, slightly less creepy.
- Trimmed the EXTREME introducion of Luther and Billy. I also cut the majority of Luther's references to his expensive clothes. I did keep "punk put a hole in my Versace" because it's actually funny and we need a joke at that point.
- Cut that really silly "reflection in Ethan's sunglasses" bit.
- Trimmed the "Oh no the satellite isn't working!" stuff out when Naya reaches Ambrose. They're just spying on her as normal.
- Cut the finger cutting scene. It's not necessary, that dude's finger can just be busted as a character thing. It doesn't need a back story and Ambrose ignores him anyway.
- Retained the majority of the betting track scene. It's the most Hitchcock the movie gets and I'm here for it.
- Trimmed down some of the Brendan Gleeson interrogation/exposition scene. Some of the dialogue in there is... not good. And it slows down the movie tremendously.
- Made Ethan's trip through Biocyte to destroy the Chimera samples a little faster. We know Ambrose is coming for him, so unless they're in the worlds slowest elevator, it shouldn't take that long for the bad guys to arrive.
- Cut up a lot of the big Biocyte shoot out to remove some silly shots and slow-mo. Also, I'm not sure why there's like 4 establishing shots to show that Ambrose is there, but I decided one would suffice.
- Cut up a lot of Ehtan's raid on the Chimera sale for action pacing.
- Cut up the rest of the movie for action pacing.
- Reworked Ambrose's death for impact. The shot order they used for that made absolutely no sense. Why do we see Ambrose get shot, then Ethan continues firing, then Ambrose is still just still slowly rolling over? It could be a cool moment but as edited it's really strange.

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MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE II is the ugly step child of the M:I franchise.

Of all of them, it feels the most dated and, retroactively, the most stylistically out of step with the rest of the movie series.

But idea of trying to fan edit this John Woo extravaganza into something more akin to the later films, is a daunting... some might even say.. IMPOSSIBLE... concept.

But thankfully Spence has accepted this mission!

And he achieved his set goals masterfully.

This fan edit is slimmer and tighter paced, increasing the entertainment value immensely. Due to plot requirements, some of very John Woo signature elements remain, but this is no fault of the editor. The new soundtrack is great, it definitely sounds more like the other movies in the franchise. Though on occasion the viewer can noticeably hear the audio remover warble after effect and there are other times where the new soundtrack is a tad too loud and it competes with onscreen dialogue. But none of this distracts from the fun factor.

This a great popcorn edit.

MISSION: ACCOMPLISHED!!!

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Mission Impossible 2 has moments of excitement, moments of sheer idiocy and moments of sheer idiotic excitement. It's never boring, but it features Tom Cruise in his cocky, wise-guy mode, rather than his earnest, searching, don't-hate-me-because-I'm-beautiful mode.

The movie seems something less than the sum of its parts. It comes off as an aggressive live action cartoon. That is part of the appeal bit it negates any chance it might have had of making any emotional impact (which was unlikely from the start).

The movie has downright ridiculous moments. The dove flying in when the hero appears, the gratuitous sex scene, the score, the out of franchise music choices which cause it to be stuck in an era...but the most ridiculous contrivance of all, although cool in theory, is the characters' ability to put on elaborate prosthetic masks and voice patches, then rip them off after someone has been fatally duped. That's above and beyond the suspension of disbelief in any reality.

Spence improves the movie exponentially by incorporating in-franchise music as the score, causing the edit to feel more in line with the other entries in the series. I cannot overstate what an improvement this is to the edit as a whole.

Spence also recognized the need to more evenly distribute the action throughout the film to create a more even pace which drastically improved the momentum and rewarded the viewer's investment. I love what he did with the shootout at the Biocyte facility. Major improvement.

Spence either trimmed or removed much of the over the top John Woo moments, that ventured into cartoon territory. The edit takes the plot and the franchise more seriously, as a result and becomes a far better investment of the viewer's attention.

Spence stated that his goal was to remove the dated elements of MI-2, pick up the pace, and bring it more in line with the other films in the series.

And in that...he achieved remarkably! I did enjoy this edit far far far more than I thought I would.

Two very enthusiastic thumbs up.


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I was not really planning on watching MI-II ever again, as I remembered it as 'everything bad about John Woo's films', but this edit actually redeems the film.
As other commenters mentioned, the theatrical cut of this film was over-the-top, with lots of slow-mo's and pigeons. Some of the slow motion scenes are still with us, sadly, as are a few trimmable shots of pigeons, but the pacing (and essentially everything else) is so much better!

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Owner's reply October 12, 2021

It's a John Woo film, gotta have at least a couple pigeons! Glad you enjoyed it

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From a film which was a guilty pleasure stuck in 2002 to becoming a timeless action movie. Spence has nailed it out of the park and now this movie which used to be the one we all skipped, can be watched without the cringe. 100/100

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In the forum thread for this edit, Spence made two promises: it would still be our least favorite Mission: Impossible movie, and it would become significantly more watchable. And both turn out to be true. M:I-2 is still the weakest link in the franchise (editing can only get you so far), but this is a gigantic improvement. By removing the worst offenders and having an actual good music score (very well integrated, and that's one of the most painful and time-consuming aspects of fanediting) the positive qualities of the film, and there are a handful of them, are pushed to the foreground. Watching it I was thinking all the time about how much better the action scenes in this look and play in comparison to today's heavily color-filtered, everything-is-CGI approach. And thanks to the score replacement, this film now feels timeless instead of locked on the early 2000s. It now sounds and looks great. And is highly enjoyable.

My only gripe (out of the stuff that could have been resolved by editing - facts like Cruise being at his most Zoolander-ish, or that gun in the sand at the end being the mother of all contrivances, are things nothing can be done about) is that while the visuals of the Seville procession scene were beautifully fixed, the verbal reference by Anthony Hopkins' character to saints being burned stays (and the song is still from the wrong part of Spain). This is kind of a big deal for Spaniards: ask any how they felt about this movie and they'll go on a long rant about the insultingly and hilariously wrong Seville segment. For everyone else, though, this will likely pass unnoticed, so it's minor in relation to the big picture. Everything else is tremendously improved and very well realized. Highly recommended overall.
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