Review Detail
9.5 12 10
(Updated: September 07, 2013)
Overall rating
8.8
Audio/Video Quality
9.0
Audio Editing
9.0
Visual Editing
10.0
Narrative
8.0
Enjoyment
8.0
Quick review:
TM2YC is a talented chap and very helpful to boot and he has taken this hit and miss movie which was a relative flop at the time and critically under rated until it had a sufficient cult following due mainly to home cinema and mr Depp enduring popularity.
In this far gritter non-official reprisal version of his role from the excellent but equally 'loose' Sleepy Hollow, Mr Depp detects (stumbles) his way through Victorian London, falling over countless mutilated bodies and with the most improbably Jack Sparrow precursor of an English accent committed to film.
The original edit was a bit of a mess and much derided by fans of the source material and film goers and critics alike with had multiple reshoots , endings and cut scenes i.e. all the usual paraphernalia associated with a troubled shoot +even worse test screenings.
how does the edit stand up!?
Well obviously it's excellent due to the 2 editors (old and new lol) , as much as it can be with what there is to work with and saying that the overall effect is good, very good in its own 'interesting, macabre way' but the movie has inherent flaws which all the editing in the world cannot correct.
What I did like:
The film now works lol (that's really all you need to hear so move along).
It is more focussed and coherent and settles into its tone and sticks with it.
The film is much darker to the point of being bleak and nihilistic....it is gritty and almost documentary like and this makes a fascinating slice of history in a very DEADWOOD style of authenticity.
The film is black and white and plays like one of the films characters, the elephant man aka Mr J Merrick which was an easy call but a sensible and brave one none the less as not only is it nearer to the source but it is nearer to the time period lol and helps with all that work print footage!
The ending he has chosen is real nasty which lends an air of authenticity and shock and far removed from the garbage currently being force fed to us from hollywood lately, so it is a refreshing change.
As the film is a little slow though not nec. boring!!! it still meanders in the middle though but this ending was necessary to pick up the pace for the 3rd act, whilst the happy ending original had us all snoozing before the credits rolled.
What I did not care for:
not much but maybe the film in general lol I mean that the film is good but not great and this is the directors fault and Depps and Graham who both sleep walk through the movie with their atrocious accents (I am a brit and I also lived in Victorian britan lol no just the former). Fortunately the edit has significantly improved upon the original release.
I did not like the inclusion of the Queen in the middle as it was clearly stock or work or a first take and jarred horribly but I see the need for it to keep the royal connection (though it was nicely edited in).
I think the film could be slimmed down significantly but then it would not be a fan edit as I found this version to be like the LOTR extended which is heaven for fans.
The opening credits had two knife scenes back to back which were a little confusing and maybe the 2nd one could have been lost which would get us to Depp quicker as the story really only starts with the protagonist starts to investigate and I guess I think it drags to a point but again that is the fan aspect of it and certainly the slice of horrific life in Britain at that time is fascinating in the sheer detail shoved into every shot.
The final credits songs were not to my liking and not in keeping with the film we had just seen (even if there is significance for those songs they do not work at all in my opinion).
That is it really......nothing really to moan about which can be attributed to the editor.
The question is did he take a diamond in the rough and make it shine or polish a turd lol which is entirely your own decision but I personally found it very enjoyable and nearly flawless in execution.
Well done, go see this go to version of this film for now, 9/10 for editing (credit songs killed your 10) and 8/10 overall :D
TM2YC is a talented chap and very helpful to boot and he has taken this hit and miss movie which was a relative flop at the time and critically under rated until it had a sufficient cult following due mainly to home cinema and mr Depp enduring popularity.
In this far gritter non-official reprisal version of his role from the excellent but equally 'loose' Sleepy Hollow, Mr Depp detects (stumbles) his way through Victorian London, falling over countless mutilated bodies and with the most improbably Jack Sparrow precursor of an English accent committed to film.
The original edit was a bit of a mess and much derided by fans of the source material and film goers and critics alike with had multiple reshoots , endings and cut scenes i.e. all the usual paraphernalia associated with a troubled shoot +even worse test screenings.
how does the edit stand up!?
Well obviously it's excellent due to the 2 editors (old and new lol) , as much as it can be with what there is to work with and saying that the overall effect is good, very good in its own 'interesting, macabre way' but the movie has inherent flaws which all the editing in the world cannot correct.
What I did like:
The film now works lol (that's really all you need to hear so move along).
It is more focussed and coherent and settles into its tone and sticks with it.
The film is much darker to the point of being bleak and nihilistic....it is gritty and almost documentary like and this makes a fascinating slice of history in a very DEADWOOD style of authenticity.
The film is black and white and plays like one of the films characters, the elephant man aka Mr J Merrick which was an easy call but a sensible and brave one none the less as not only is it nearer to the source but it is nearer to the time period lol and helps with all that work print footage!
The ending he has chosen is real nasty which lends an air of authenticity and shock and far removed from the garbage currently being force fed to us from hollywood lately, so it is a refreshing change.
As the film is a little slow though not nec. boring!!! it still meanders in the middle though but this ending was necessary to pick up the pace for the 3rd act, whilst the happy ending original had us all snoozing before the credits rolled.
What I did not care for:
not much but maybe the film in general lol I mean that the film is good but not great and this is the directors fault and Depps and Graham who both sleep walk through the movie with their atrocious accents (I am a brit and I also lived in Victorian britan lol no just the former). Fortunately the edit has significantly improved upon the original release.
I did not like the inclusion of the Queen in the middle as it was clearly stock or work or a first take and jarred horribly but I see the need for it to keep the royal connection (though it was nicely edited in).
I think the film could be slimmed down significantly but then it would not be a fan edit as I found this version to be like the LOTR extended which is heaven for fans.
The opening credits had two knife scenes back to back which were a little confusing and maybe the 2nd one could have been lost which would get us to Depp quicker as the story really only starts with the protagonist starts to investigate and I guess I think it drags to a point but again that is the fan aspect of it and certainly the slice of horrific life in Britain at that time is fascinating in the sheer detail shoved into every shot.
The final credits songs were not to my liking and not in keeping with the film we had just seen (even if there is significance for those songs they do not work at all in my opinion).
That is it really......nothing really to moan about which can be attributed to the editor.
The question is did he take a diamond in the rough and make it shine or polish a turd lol which is entirely your own decision but I personally found it very enjoyable and nearly flawless in execution.
Well done, go see this go to version of this film for now, 9/10 for editing (credit songs killed your 10) and 8/10 overall :D
User Review
Do you recommend this edit?
Yes
Format Watched?
Digital
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