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Wolverine: The James Mangold Restoration, The
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Original Release Date:
2013
Original Running Time:
117
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Fanedit Running Time:
106
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Brief Synopsis:
Essentially, this project aims to restore James Mangold's original vision for the film, before the studio enforced changes to the script. Knowledge of the original script, and how it was changed, comes directly from Mangold himself as well as behind the scenes commentary. The "identity reveal" of Silver Samurai being the real villain was definitely not part of that script, and Viper was also added because the studio wanted a villain with superpowers. So in this edit, she's been reduced to almost non-existence in the film as well.
Specifically, this edit completely removes the third act and any prior scenes or shots setting it up. The effect of cutting this is that it eliminates a plot-hole fuelled twist that comes totally out of left field, but that it also returns the story to being told almost exclusively from Logan's point-of-view; thus honouring Mangold's original vision, for a small-scale neo-noir grounded in real world stakes -- rather than a VFX heavy tent-pole designed to compete with bigger-scale films from that year.
I have helped Silver Screen Samurai come up with the broad strokes of the final act, but they created the first nightmare and the end of the ninja battle until the airport scene all on their own, in order to fulfil their vision completely.
CHANGES INTRODUCED IN 2.0:
Added back deleted Harada backstory (absent in 1.0)
New transition to final battle, created by Silver Screen Samurai
Specifically, this edit completely removes the third act and any prior scenes or shots setting it up. The effect of cutting this is that it eliminates a plot-hole fuelled twist that comes totally out of left field, but that it also returns the story to being told almost exclusively from Logan's point-of-view; thus honouring Mangold's original vision, for a small-scale neo-noir grounded in real world stakes -- rather than a VFX heavy tent-pole designed to compete with bigger-scale films from that year.
I have helped Silver Screen Samurai come up with the broad strokes of the final act, but they created the first nightmare and the end of the ninja battle until the airport scene all on their own, in order to fulfil their vision completely.
CHANGES INTRODUCED IN 2.0:
Added back deleted Harada backstory (absent in 1.0)
New transition to final battle, created by Silver Screen Samurai
Intention:
In this version, when old Yashida dies at the beginning, he’s actually dead. Neither the finale in the fortress, or the inclusion of Viper, were in Mangold’s original version of the film. They were added by the studio. Thus they’ve been removed, in accordance with his wishes; rendering the film more of small-scale Neo-noir set in Japan, with real world stakes and logic, as originally intended.
Special Thanks:
The Silver Screen Samurai
Release Information:
Digital
Special Features
Japanese Translation Only Subtitles also available
Editing Details:
Knowledge of the original script, and how it was changed, comes directly from Mangold himself; since he's spoken pretty openly about it in interviews on the subject, as well as statements made by various crew members/actors on the original version of the script.
Cuts and Additions:
CHANGES INTRODUCED IN 2.0:
Added back deleted Harada backstory (absent in 1.0)
New transition to final battle, created by Silver Screen Samurai
Base is the Theatrical Version
Extended Edition with more graphic shot of Soldier commiting suicide used
Extended Edition with more graphic shot of Logan's claws in Jean used
Extended Edition with more graphic shot of Logan killing bear used
Extended Edition with more graphic shot of the arrow in the hunter's hand used
Trimmed Yumiko dialogue with Logan while being driven to old Yashida's home, using select parts of both theatrical and extended dialogue
Logan and Old Yashida's meeting edited to remove some of the shots of Viper, using extended scene as starting point.
Extended Edition scene of Shingen and old Yashida added and slightly trimmed
Logan being poisoned by Viper scene replaced with new nightmare sequence from Silver Screen Samurai, with Jean hair FX fix done by Wakeupkeo
Viper removed from relevance during funeral
Extended Edition Funeral fight scene with more graphic shots used, trimmed to reduce appearance of Viper and some of Hamada's face shots
Extended Edition Train Fight version with more graphic shots used
Some of Logan's dialogue at the end of the scene in the vet's office trimmed
Transition to train to Nagasaki adjusted slightly for flow
Logan and Mariko's discussion about her and Hamada removed
Noburo's interrogation trimmed to remove discussion of Yashida ruining the company and Shingen trying to save it
Shingen's slap of Mariko just before her kidnapping removed.
Interaction between Hamada and Mariko at old Yashida's house removed
Shingen and Viper interaction removed
Extended Edition scenes of Logan Yumiko and Shingen at old Yashida's home with more graphic shots used
Shots of Shingen getting his swords and armor moved slightly later
Yumiko's mentions of seeing Yashida dying removed
Shingen's lines about Mariko and Shingen destroying company removed, dialogue trimmed down to just Shingen resenting Yashida's appreciation of Logan.
All scenes of Viper and Hamada removed
Extended Edition Ninja fight with more graphic shots used
End of the Ninja fight heavily edited to be the final act.
Final transition from snowblower crash to the dream of Jean created by Silver Screen Samurai.
All of the scenes in the tower removed.
New mid-credit scene edited to remove Logan's bone claws created by Silver Screen Samurai.
Added back deleted Harada backstory (absent in 1.0)
New transition to final battle, created by Silver Screen Samurai
Base is the Theatrical Version
Extended Edition with more graphic shot of Soldier commiting suicide used
Extended Edition with more graphic shot of Logan's claws in Jean used
Extended Edition with more graphic shot of Logan killing bear used
Extended Edition with more graphic shot of the arrow in the hunter's hand used
Trimmed Yumiko dialogue with Logan while being driven to old Yashida's home, using select parts of both theatrical and extended dialogue
Logan and Old Yashida's meeting edited to remove some of the shots of Viper, using extended scene as starting point.
Extended Edition scene of Shingen and old Yashida added and slightly trimmed
Logan being poisoned by Viper scene replaced with new nightmare sequence from Silver Screen Samurai, with Jean hair FX fix done by Wakeupkeo
Viper removed from relevance during funeral
Extended Edition Funeral fight scene with more graphic shots used, trimmed to reduce appearance of Viper and some of Hamada's face shots
Extended Edition Train Fight version with more graphic shots used
Some of Logan's dialogue at the end of the scene in the vet's office trimmed
Transition to train to Nagasaki adjusted slightly for flow
Logan and Mariko's discussion about her and Hamada removed
Noburo's interrogation trimmed to remove discussion of Yashida ruining the company and Shingen trying to save it
Shingen's slap of Mariko just before her kidnapping removed.
Interaction between Hamada and Mariko at old Yashida's house removed
Shingen and Viper interaction removed
Extended Edition scenes of Logan Yumiko and Shingen at old Yashida's home with more graphic shots used
Shots of Shingen getting his swords and armor moved slightly later
Yumiko's mentions of seeing Yashida dying removed
Shingen's lines about Mariko and Shingen destroying company removed, dialogue trimmed down to just Shingen resenting Yashida's appreciation of Logan.
All scenes of Viper and Hamada removed
Extended Edition Ninja fight with more graphic shots used
End of the Ninja fight heavily edited to be the final act.
Final transition from snowblower crash to the dream of Jean created by Silver Screen Samurai.
All of the scenes in the tower removed.
New mid-credit scene edited to remove Logan's bone claws created by Silver Screen Samurai.
User reviews
22 reviews
Overall rating
9.2
Audio/Video Quality
9.6(22)
Audio Editing
9.5(22)
Visual Editing
9.4(22)
Narrative
8.6(22)
Enjoyment
9.0(22)
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Overall rating
9.6
Audio/Video Quality
10.0
Audio Editing
10.0
Visual Editing
10.0
Narrative
9.0
Enjoyment
9.0
Never seen either of the official cuts, bought the Blu-ray for the sole purpose of seeing this edit after watching Wraith's "Requiem War" distillation of the original trilogy about a year ago. From the cutlist it sounds as either this or Wakeupkeo's newly-produced "Mangold Extended Edit" will be my go-to versions, it's so refreshing to have a more grounded story than that typical of the genre nowadays, which I been weary of for a good few years.
Technical aspects all looked and sounded good, great quality to my eyes and ears (LQ v3 with 6 GB file and 317 kbps audio) with no ugly cuts that I noticed. The only thing I was a little surprised at was the relatively quick conclusion to the final fight, but maybe that is result of being conditioned to examples that occupy much more significant fractions of a film's runtime.
Thanks to both the creators for putting this together, seems to me so far that this franchise is best experienced through edits!
Technical aspects all looked and sounded good, great quality to my eyes and ears (LQ v3 with 6 GB file and 317 kbps audio) with no ugly cuts that I noticed. The only thing I was a little surprised at was the relatively quick conclusion to the final fight, but maybe that is result of being conditioned to examples that occupy much more significant fractions of a film's runtime.
Thanks to both the creators for putting this together, seems to me so far that this franchise is best experienced through edits!
User Review
Do you recommend this edit?
Yes
Format Watched?
Digital
P
Overall rating
9.6
Audio/Video Quality
10.0
Audio Editing
9.0
Visual Editing
10.0
Narrative
10.0
Enjoyment
9.0
This Fanedit is my go go version to me, 'cause I remember watching the Theatrical thinking that like ''there some flaws but it looks nice''.
But then when I read a information about James Mangold original idea for this movie, I felt suprised, that the Villians, the viper, and the Mariko's grandfather (being a villiain too) was like any kind of Superhero movie would be, but for him, it wasn't, and I kinda like his original Idea, it make me imagine a while watching the Theatrical and Extended Cut a whole different film with his Idea.
Now the visual still looks great, the Audio it needs a little work on that, but anyway, looks good, the narrative with this version looked interested, except the ending, I prefer the alternative ending where Yukio gives Logan the Wolverine suit, you know what I mean? Still, looks good, and I don't care what anyone says, James's Idea looks much better without villians, and I wish James could watch his idea coming to light, thanks to us Fanedits.
So that's why this version is a go go to me, I definetly recommend this edit, it looks great.
But then when I read a information about James Mangold original idea for this movie, I felt suprised, that the Villians, the viper, and the Mariko's grandfather (being a villiain too) was like any kind of Superhero movie would be, but for him, it wasn't, and I kinda like his original Idea, it make me imagine a while watching the Theatrical and Extended Cut a whole different film with his Idea.
Now the visual still looks great, the Audio it needs a little work on that, but anyway, looks good, the narrative with this version looked interested, except the ending, I prefer the alternative ending where Yukio gives Logan the Wolverine suit, you know what I mean? Still, looks good, and I don't care what anyone says, James's Idea looks much better without villians, and I wish James could watch his idea coming to light, thanks to us Fanedits.
So that's why this version is a go go to me, I definetly recommend this edit, it looks great.
User Review
Do you recommend this edit?
Yes
Format Watched?
Digital
R
Overall rating
9.0
Audio/Video Quality
9.0
Audio Editing
8.0
Visual Editing
9.0
Narrative
9.0
Enjoyment
10.0
I don't have much to say, I enjoyed this edit a lot! I like the original but this is cool, seeing what could have been or what original intentions were. My only hitch was the audio I guess. There were some spots here or there where it was weird but I also don't understand how any of this gets put together so I find the work that Wakeupkeo has done here as amazing still. And again, this is worth watching!
User Review
Do you recommend this edit?
Yes
Format Watched?
Digital
S
Overall rating
10.0
Audio/Video Quality
10.0
Audio Editing
10.0
Visual Editing
10.0
Narrative
10.0
Enjoyment
10.0
I watched this movie in the original version many moons ago, so this was a nice reminder of how cool it actually was. It is a bit of an odd mix to have Wolverine mixed with the Japanese culture, however I always was drawn a bit to comics where the heroes were out of their elements and the story took place in a "non typical" environment for them. It always felt like a "special edition" to me.
This edit took out the best of this mix and of this "special edition story". It is funny, because even back then when I watched the theatrical cut of this movie I hated the original ending. This one feels kind of abrupt to me in one way since subliminary the movie seems to move to a specific climax that kind of never comes, but maybe that's just because I saw the original ending, hard to say.
Anyway this edit is fantastic and really makes me want to read an X-man / Wolverine comic now :)
Thanks for the hard work!
This edit took out the best of this mix and of this "special edition story". It is funny, because even back then when I watched the theatrical cut of this movie I hated the original ending. This one feels kind of abrupt to me in one way since subliminary the movie seems to move to a specific climax that kind of never comes, but maybe that's just because I saw the original ending, hard to say.
Anyway this edit is fantastic and really makes me want to read an X-man / Wolverine comic now :)
Thanks for the hard work!
User Review
Do you recommend this edit?
Yes
Format Watched?
Digital
G
Overall rating
9.0
Audio/Video Quality
10.0
Audio Editing
9.0
Visual Editing
8.0
Narrative
9.0
Enjoyment
9.0
White out shot transitioning end of fight before tower into the plane goodbye scene was a bit jarring but other than that everything it aimed to get across worked well and I very much enjoyed it.
User Review
Do you recommend this edit?
Yes
Format Watched?
Digital
S