A truly splendid edit of a very underrated movie. It definitely deserved more love and Mr Dugnutt gave it to it. All the added scenes definitely make for a more interesting story and even some of the smaller unfinished bits end up being very enjoyable due to the strength of the acting.
I remember enjoying the theatrical, so all the improved pacing and the extra scenes in Asgard made a good movie great! My only nitpick is that using the alternate ending where Thor accepts his destiny as king makes the film work as a stand-alone feature, but doesn't narratively connect as well to Age of Ultron and Ragnarok as the original ending does.
Overall, I believe this is a superior cut to the theatrical and I highly recommend it!
A much more complicated edit than Bobson's extended editions of MCU films, and he mostly pulls everything off. My thoughts on the film in general are here: https://letterboxd.com/nottheacademy/film/thor-the-dark-world/
For this edit in particular, I have to bring up some of the feedback in other reviews...
I did not notice any audio issues, hard cuts, repeats, etc. Possibly they had a problem downloading the file?
The restructuring of the beginning makes perfect sense. Not only does it clear up the narrative here, but avoiding introducing Thor is a perfect thematic choice. This is a sequel, not a standalone film. The last film ended with Thor being cut off from Earth, and we should feel his absence. Here, we do.
The added scenes fleshing out Asgard through Jane are very welcome. Bobson does a great job getting around unfinished effects, and this both strengthens Jane's character, helps build the romance, and makes Asgard a more fully-realized world.
Not all the scenes are added though, and what IS added is sometimes only partially so, or with other bits cut. One questionable choice for me was in cutting Malekith's "Kill her!" order when confronting Frigga with Kurse. This made the scene play jarringly to me, as it seems that they're getting what they want and then a major character dies with no explanation. It veers into "fridging" and isn't fulfilling.
The alternate ending: (SPOILERS) - Bobson states that this makes the film match better in the MCU after the events of Ragnarok. It's certainly true that Ragnarok made it hard for Thor to fit with the other movies. The ending here is a much better explanation of why Thor and Jane aren't together than just Ragnarok's "we broke up" pithy joke. HOWEVER, it still doesn't really fit because Bobson cut out the throne room scene with "Odin". I think to truly patch up the plot holes, you need to include bits of both. Here, Bobson shows Thor coming back to Asgard and implies him taking over leadership there (presumably to be coronated shortly after). He says "Let's begin!" while looking over his faithful Asgardians. When next we see Thor, he's in Age of Ultron, where he's been helping the Avengers chase down Hydra. Whuh?? Or if you just skip ahead to Ragnarok, then we're back to Thor being gone a really long time and "Odin" building statues to Loki and making big changes while he was gone. How do we get from the "Let's begin!" ending to that?? I think the only way this works, is if you cut the two endings together so that Thor both turns down the throne to go protect Earth, but also has Jane say they can't be together. And that throne room conversation works a lot better if Loki has already changed into Odin, lending a lot more delicious subtext to the scene since Thor doesn't realize who he's talking with. Moving that to some kind of end credit stinger is unnecessary and takes away from this scene.
So all in all, I don't think the ending quite works as well as Bobson wants, but the rest of the film is definitely the best version yet. It also skirts a running issue with Bobson's releases, which is a lack of any subtitles when people aren't speaking English. Reworking those and hardcoding them is VERY appreciated! This ends up as a shelf-replacer for The Dark World, despite the ending not totally working. Thanks again for all the inspired work, Bobson!
I’m glad I watched this. Thor: The Dark World is one of the weakest MCU entries, but it could have been so much better had Marvel not interfered behind the scenes. The deleted scenes are proof of that, and this fanedit comes close to restoring Alan Taylor’s original vision and the film’s full potential.
The edit isn’t perfect. I especially had the most problems in the first act. Some of my issues:
-Vain is misspelled as vein
-4 minutes in the audio glitches/repeats
-The flow of the first act reeeaally didn’t work for me. Overall the restructure really hurts the flow as it goes from random location/situation to another. Cutting from the mention of Thor to London with Jane is weird for example.
-Cutting from naked Selvig to Malekith awakening is really jarring flow wise (technically it sounds good). Originally having them awaken due to the inciting incident (Jane finding the Aether) worked well because all the events of the movie begin to unfold here. They don’t HAVE to be tied of course but it feels random, it doesn’t feel like the convergence Malekith mentions (which hasn’t even been established properly yet) is the reason they awaken. Since the convergence can’t be established before the Dark Elves awaken I think the Aether being found should still be the reason they awaken.
-Thor not appearing until 21 minutes in is a real structural problem. We have to wait for the inciting incident (Jane finding the Aether) to reach Thor until his setup stuff are done before the inciting incident. This is, again, jarring and hurts the pacing considerably. I understand most audiences won’t notice these as structural problems, but they will notice how it doesn’t flow well from one scene to another and feel that it’s slow, and also wonder in confusion and possible boredom as to why Thor doesn’t appear until the 21 minute mark, and will be bored to see the slow setup stuff come after, essentially, the plot of the movie begins.
-The rescore cuts off when the Thor & Odin’s first scene begins.
-Sometimes the deleted scenes are noticably a little lower quality and a bit stretched
-Again, the cut from the storybook exposition to Selvig explaining the “alignment” is pretty jarring
Beyond that the edit sounds technically fine besides some musical transitions. I watched it with headphones so I noticed a lot of edits, however I think they’d sound fine watching from a TV and sound system, besides the aforementioned jarring musical transitions of course (worth looking at again) I have to agree with another reviewer that the bitrate was kinda low.
All of this is made up for with the integration of many deleted scenes (a few are unnecessary but most of them add a lot) especially alternate ending which TRULY resolves the movie. The original’s ending always felt incomplete with nothing from Thor’s inner conflict, the relationship with Thor & Jane, Thor’s arc of becoming a king ever resolving. Thor doesn’t change nor does he change anyone around him at all. Nothing is ever learned thanks to the dumb, crowdpleaser ending.
Until now. Thanks to the alternate and CLEARLY originally intended ending, every story thread that was set up is resolved perfectly. We see Thor and Jane’s “mutual dumping” and it’s heartbreaking because their paths are diverging after their convergence. Everything that happened, the Convergence, around them was a reflection of Thor & Jane’s relationships and their character journeys portrayed through the cosmos, and that was clearly what was lacking in the original.
The movie’s still not great, only so much can be done with what we have. Malekith is still a dull and uninspired villain (though Odin’s reinstated hatred for him does add some personal stakes) and the plot is still a little messy with the plot and subplots not connecting very well with each other (again a result of extreme studio meddling). But the deleted scenes do their best to remedy the issues, especially the new ending.
What would really be perfect is a FanFix in the vein of the Hard Forged Edition or Thor: Convergence that also adds the best of these deleted scenes and the alternate ending.
As usual, Bobson Dugnutt has done a great job! The inclusion of such scenes like Frigga's alternate death scene, and Jane exploring Asgard gave it more story, and I feel made it better. Keep up the good work!