Superman Part 2: The Superman of Krypton

Superman Part 2: The Superman of Krypton

 
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Superman Part 2: The Superman of Krypton
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Tagline:
Even a Super-man can't solve all the world's problems.
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Original Release Date:
1987
Original Running Time:
330 minutes
Fanedit Release Date:
Fanedit Running Time:
135 minutes
Time Cut:
197
Time Added:
2
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Brief Synopsis:
Part 2 in this new Trilogy takes the Man of Steel to unexpected places - he falls in love - world peace is threatened - and he is poisoned by the creation of his nemesis.
Intention:
The Superman of Krypton wraps up the best that Superman III & IV had to offer, with scenes featuring the late Brando as Jor-El from the Donner Cut of Superman II.

Krypton is referenced several times, which leads in to Superman questioning his origins for Part 3 of the Trilogy. Also Lois Lane has a tough time in this version, which ultimately results in her disappointment of who she once thought was the man of her dreams.
Other Sources:
Superman: The Movie
Superman Returns
Contact
Various news stories related to nuclear issues
Release Information
MP4/M4V/MOV
Special Features
MP4 1080p AC3 5.1 Dolby Surround Sound
If you intend to watch this fanedit on a PC please ensure you have an AC3 filter/driver installed. Modern televisions and Media Centres will be fine.
Editing Details:
The original idea of Superman playing a part in nuclear disarmament was lame, so I have added more urgency around nuclear weapons, and in particular nuclear terrorism. Quite a bit of news footage has been used to achieve this.
Cuts and Additions:
Part 2 is a complete reworking of stories from multiple movies, and hence there are re-arrangements throughout the film. Most conversations have been edited to streamline dialogue or remove redundant topics and silly humor. Some subtle special effects have been added in a few scenes, and a custom television news report overdubbed in another scene.

The villains are Ross Webster, driven by greed, and Lex Luthor, who is determined to engineer the perfect Kyptonian weapon to destroy Superman. The fate of the villains differs from the Theatrical Releases however, as is necessary to setup for and lead into Part 3.

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Overall rating 
 
7.4
Audio/Video Quality 
 
9.8  (4)
Visual Editing 
 
8.3  (4)
Audio Editing 
 
9.0  (4)
Narrative 
 
6.8  (4)
Enjoyment 
 
6.8  (4)
(Updated: November 04, 2014)
Overall rating 
 
6.9
Audio/Video Quality 
 
9.0
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9.0
Audio Editing 
 
10.0
Narrative 
 
8.0
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5.0

First off, I'd like to say that this was incredibly well done. I thought that the plots between the three movies were intermixed really well, and done in a way that made them all feel like they belonged in the same movie. And between the added footage, the voiceovers, and the superimposed news footage in the diner, I thought it was a very impressive edit. That being said, I found it to be pretty boring. However, I have seen all of the original movies as well, and they really didn't produce a lot of exciting content to work with, so I totally understand. The fault is really in the original movies, not in this edit. That being said, the point of this trilogy, as stated by Avid 4D, was to quicken the pace of the movies that they might better appeal to a modern audience. This was certainly better than sitting through the original movies, but I feel that a lot more could have been trimmed off of them even still. I didn't think that the plot with evil Superman was necessary for the movie, and honestly, I wasn't upset when Clark never gave up his powers in The Superman, so it would have been fine with me if that had been left out as well. Additionally, since he never gave up his powers in The Superman, it was odd to see Jor-El create the power-losing chamber and explain what it was and how it worked to Clark, when it was already there in The Superman, and Clark not only knew how it worked, but how to reverse the machine so that it would rid Zod and his henchmen of their powers instead. However, I understand that with how poor the plots were in Superman III and Superman IV: The Quest for Peace, this plotline may have been necessary to give the movie depth (and also to explain the tension between Lois and Clark in The Superman Returns).
That all being said, The Superman was excellent, and though The Superman of Krypton was not nearly as exciting for me, it was really well done, and I would recommend it to people, because I think it's going to be an integral chapter in an excellent trilogy. I'm looking forward to watching The Superman Returns, and I hope it turns out as well as The Superman. Good work! And thanks for the edit!

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Overall rating 
 
8.2
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9.0
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Rather than watching Superman III and Superman IV (and parts of II) separately I figured watching Avid4D's edit would make more sense. He does a good job of taking the best parts of Superman II, Superman III, and Superman IV and combining them into a complex narrative with stakes. At times is definitely felt like two movies pasted together but overall I'm still very thankful that this edit exists. Having not seen the original movies I may did not notice as much as the cleverness as other reviewers did. I thought the buildup to the nuclear weapons disarmament program made quite a bit of sense to me and thoroughly justified the reasons why Superman took it upon himself to relieve the world of nuclear weapons. I liked the handling of Richard Pryor's character who reminded me a lot of Jamie Foxx's character from the Amazing Spiderman 2. I liked the drunk Superman scenes but the transition to those scenes made little to no sense to me. Why was Superman on a bender at all? Also this scenes of evil Superman felt kind of out of place and I was also unaware of why Superman was suddenly evil. In comparison to the first edit I felt like the transitions overall don't work quite as good but in general I am okay with trading inadequately explained transitions for a quicker pace. Having two villains made the stakes a little bit higher than if Superman was dealing alone with either Lex Luthor/Nuclear Man or Mr. Warfield. The nuclear man scenes were cheesy at times but that is more a fault of the source material and these scenes didn't really feel too drawn out.

The dispowerment scenes felt really out of place and seems like one of the bigger plot holes in the narrative. While Superman Lois got to the diner almost immediately his journey back took much longer, even though he would've had the same level of powers each way. Again for the sake of better pace I'm ok with less exposition, but it would have been nice to understand more of Superman's character motivations throughout (except for the nuclear disarmament scenes which I thought were well put together).

Overall this is still a great edit and is a great way to relive these superman classics.

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6.9
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7.0

This is a very inspired bit of editing here and there are plenty of strong points to list, first off, I love the use of news footage to convey the severity of the Nuclear arms issue and adding in representing footage of the failed conference was a very good touch. The introduction of Gus and the opening exchanges between Webster and his women were very well handled and provide a much stronger introduction to everyone.

By far my favourite part of the edit was the transistion from Clark at the farm to the flashback footage from Superman Returns, it's such a great little set-up for the third entry in your saga which will make use of SR footage and it was a brilliant transistion both back in and back out again. Expertly handled. Clark gets depowered and learns of Nuclear Man's attack with custom voice-over? It's a trick that's been done before in other Supes edits but it's never an unwelcome sight to see some flexible ingenuity to make the movie serve your purposes.

I was very much hoping you'd avoid the memory kiss ending and give Clark and Lois have more of a bitter parting to set up your next film, I do hate that gosh darn memory kiss and I feel that scene works just as well without it. Just my personal gripes as a writer and an editor though, it works perfectly fine, and I love how you used Clark speeding away right after commiting the deed.

If there are negatives to yap about, I suppose it comes down to some weird narrative choices. I feel the evil Superman thing wasnt needed. At all. It felt like there was too much going on and if Spider-Man 3 is now being used to teach narration classes than I certaingly don't want to graduate. Too many things were going on and the movie became less "grounded", all of a sudden the more outlandish traits of Superman III began to properly intrude on what had been a pretty good representation of II and IV. There were also a lot of ackward cuts in some exchanges, particulary when Gus and Webster meet and when Clark shows up out of nowhere after Perry and the group talk about Webster and company.

I feel if you had gone down the simpler route of making it a hybrid of II's depowering and IV's disarmanent plot, you would have a much tighter, stricter movie, as it stands, trying to add so much of the movies in one sitting left me kind of exhausted and, with me being far too overfamiliar with these films now, it's left me feeling less surprised, and I think there are still ways one can do that with these old Superman classics

Overall, it's still a fun romp, it just needs to rein itself in a bit

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(Updated: May 02, 2014)
Overall rating 
 
7.7
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10.0
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9.0
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9.0
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7.0
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7.0

WARNING! This review will contain SPOILERS!!!!

One of my all time favorite Superman fan edits is ADM's SUPERMAN REDEEMED, merging SIII and SIV into a single adventure. This new fan edit by Avid is similar in concept but much bolder and grander in scope.

There tons of great things in this edit that I enjoyed immensely. The use of real news footage about the Nuclear Threat added some much needed weight to the storyline. The diner scene with the news report of Nuclear Man attacking Metropolis was perfectly done (great work on the audio!!). I loved the inclusion of the flashback of young Clark from Superman Returns, it really made the scene incredibly emotional and heartfelt. Gus has been fantastically edited and toned down, he now feels like a member of the ensemble rather than an out of control scene stealer.

That said, there were some things about the new narrative that did not work for me or I thought was unneeded. I thought the prison scene with Lex and Otis was completely unneeded and served no purpose since Otis is never seen again. I think Lex in the rock quarry would have worked sufficiently to reintroduce Lex.

The fact Lex and Superman never physically meet in this version was a bit dissatisfying. More so because the two fight scenes between Superman and Nuclear Man at Lex's headquarters play very choppy because of Lex's removal.

The turning Superman into Evil is the same as Redeemed, but I think it would have been clearer and played stronger if you had included the scene of Clark being sick afterwards to at least suggest he is undergoing some sort of transformation.

But these are all minor compared to one thing that completely did not work for me -- the reinterpretted romance between Superman and Lois. Superman's motivations come across as very murky at best..... and complete douche bag at worst. In this version, Superman seems greatly perplexed by the nuclear debate, he invites Lois over, reveals his identity to I assume to discuss his dilemma but surprisingly there is no discussion of the nuclear crisis. Instead he takes her back to the Fortress and seduces her. He then disarms the planet and then gives up his powers. For me this all plays very hollow. As a stand alone movie, I think the story would have worked better without this subplot but I am assuming you are setting up your third act with Lois and Clark's love child.

Otherwise, the rest of the edit works very well. I was really surprised how well the two completely different plots played off each other and how you were able to cleverly interconnect them. Lots of tight editing over all, some great video/fx polishing and over all the audio is solid though again a few cue transitions could have been smoother.

While I don't agree with some of the narrative choices, I do acknowledge there are some very innovative and fresh ideas that make this edit worth watching. And it is definitely action packed, featuring some of the very best moments of Superman III and IV, making for a very entertaining experience.

Thanks for the show Avid. You have made me very curious what you are going to do for your final act of your Superman Trilogy.

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Owner's reply

Thanks BionicBob! This edit was always going to be my most challenging edit so far, and was expecting feedback similar to yours. Lex in prison with Otis? You're right, it serves no purpose other than to link this film with the first. Lex wouldn't be loyal, and seeing him escape with someone else plays to that, but yes I could have skipped it. The Lois romance... I wanted to use it because she is so hurt in the last movie, and even though she won't remember Clark is Superman I think seeing her go through this process makes her hurt in the next film more believable (because Kate Bobsworth couldn't act to save herself!) Supe does say to Lois when dining in the fortress "for once in my life, everything is clear" after we see him so confused about nuclear issues. He then goes off to solve world issues, come back and dedicate his life to Lois thinking there are no more threats. After the events that follow, your description is perfect - Supe has been a douche bag! Wiping Lois's memory would also make her forget his actions. Supe doesn't know Luthor has escaped, never sees him and so never captures him. It's far from perfect, and take all your thoughts on board as they are quite justified, but with a little bit of "Hollywood assumptions" I hope people still enjoy the scenes that work. Appreciate your review and hope you still find time to watch the third and final installment when I complete it.

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