Sensational Spider-Man, The
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Almost all of the first film's main problems are fixed in this edit:
-The Parents Storyline gets resolved in the first one.
-Uncle Ben's Killer, which went nowhere in the original cut - never adressed.
-The lack of a supporting cast beyond Gwen and Aunt May - Harry's in this one, and you can sorta count Flash with this being a one-film affair.
-Dr. Connors' villainy is better-built, and so is the third act - it makes so much more narrative sense.
-Dr. Ratha's antics are completely turned on their hands.
Just to make clear how this movie managed to turn things around, even The RHINO was better in this cut (i guess it's more watchable when it's not right after the tragic death of a love interest, which made it borderline comical in the original film).
I did kinda like the inclusion of Norman Osborn's voiceover in the film, even if it didn't make all that sense - it helped build him up as a spectre of sorts, seeing everything from above. It also shifted Ratha from just an asshole businessman to more of a reluctant servant, constantly harassed by his boss.
This movie wasn't free of qualms though - some of the audio transitions between scenes of different origins were harsh and noticeable, which is a minor problem but still kinda takes you out of the experience.
The Harry story was interweaved pretty well into the first one, especially the part in Oscorp Tower, but i feel like he could have contributed more to the plot. On the one hand, he did build up the Parents storyline better, but on the other hand it was kinda non-sequitor right when the Lizard plotline got into motion. He could've shown Peter Connors' recordings or something.
Also maybe the Harry and Peter hang out scene could have been better placed instead of the skateboard-riding scene, instead of just having them both - Peter even references something going on with Gwen (before they really talk seriously), and the skateboard scene in my opinion never really went anywhere.
All in all though, this film was a great ride, it both gave this series a (much needed) conclusion, and realized a lot of the untapped potential in this series by freeing the first one of it's flaws. I'd recommend it both for fans of the Amazing series, and for people who were sorely disappointed by it (like me).
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Peter is made a far more likable character in this version. He never goes after Uncle Ben's killer, which I thought was a real problem in the first film. I never really got behind a main character who I watch for about twenty minutes on just his personal vendetta.
Dr. Ratha is completely changed. Throughout the film, you hear him being harassed by Norman Osborn through a radio, and it's kind of funny, but creepy at the same time. But at least all of his scenes have more depth than just him being a moron.
Harry Osborn is much more likable in this version, mostly because this version uses the first half of his story in this one, which was the part I originally liked, and even Chris Cooper as Norman is better done.
Dr. Connors is a much stronger villain- most of his deleted scenes are restored, and his character is much more three-dimensional.
Most of the third act remains unchained, and that was always my least favorite part of the original movie; however, it feels a lot more satisfying here, because there was a lot more buildup, and Spider-Man has a more credible foe to against.
Not completely free of flaws though. The last part does go on for a while, and it is a little strange to see Peter discover everything only after he beats the Lizard and breaks up with Gwen and all that. But I suppose that's a better option than just not discovering it at all or needing to make a sequel.
The runtime is a little long, but the story is more dense, and learning about all the parts that happen offscreen is more interesting here, so that's another plus. Most of the story issues I have are things that just hold over from the original, but I think this version does the best it can.
Overall, if you kind of liked the original films but still think they did have a lot of problems, you'll probably enjoy this version. Definitely recommend it!
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This edit does completely cuts out, Electro, Green Goblin, most of all of Rhino and only a mention of Felicia Hardy aka Black Cat. Also cutting out Peter not being Spider-Man anymore, the flash back scene of his father as if he was a ghost. Virtually all of the 2nd film cut only showing barely a few scenes mainly with Harry. I did like the beginning how he used both early scenes of the beginning of both films to make the parents leaving more complete, but that was probably the best parts of the film.
The fan edit isn't so bad but the longer runtime made it kind of boring at parts, for a while it just dragged making it seem like there was no story at all till over an hour into it.
Audio/video was great quality, using what looked like bluray quality. And also using the sound effect of the web thwip from the original trilogy placed in this wasn't bad hearing, also changing Peter's ringtone was funny.
But overall if you hated the original two films then this is probably for you, but since I didn't mind either of them I really didn't like this at all. It was a nice try, but not the best.
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I must admit I couldn't do too much with the hair on Andrew Garfield, mea culpa. But if you actually pay attention to how the scenes are shown, there is not continuity errors with Harry's Scenes. It goes like this:
1) Harry comes back after a long time.
2) Peter visits Harry. Norman hasn't died yet and Harry hasn't become OSCORP's Head yet.
3) Harry talks to Norman and he gives him his files. If you notice it, I cut all the parts that suggest Osborn was in his final hours. He is not dying yet, just incredibly sick. He gives him the files believing Harry will continue his legacy in the way Norman wanted.
4) Harry checks the files and asks Peter to see him because Norman has been watching him.
5) Harry watches the news.
6) After Norman DIES, Harry becomes the CEO of OSCORP and we can assume Harry will take the company to another direction.
I did the best possible to add his scenes in a coherent way. It is how these scenes are presented. So this way, there is no continuity errors.
But in saying that, combining two mediocre films into one, whilst making it a better film on the whole, there really isn't any Spider-Man at all and he doesn't even show up until the second hour.
The characters have no personality and I found myself not caring at all about them. Peter stalking Gwen and having her picture on his computer is creepy!
Here's some issues I had;
Peter brings lizard back to the sewer after the battle at the school to chat? Then the Indian dude shows up and sprays Peter, lizard eats him? Then the next scene Peter is fine tracking the lizard who he's just had before he transformed? The dumbest thing was Peter had his name on his camera that gave away his identity? Seriously? Lol maybe I missed it, but I didn't see any motivation for conners attacking the city with gas either. What's he doing anyway?
I'm sorry to say, but I was very bored with this and was skipping to the end. I'm Glad that this series will not see any further sequels.
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Let me explain myself about the sewers and Connors. The problem was that I tried my best to join the scene where Connors is asking for help, the scene in the sewers and the scene where Peter talks to Gwen by cellphone. In the beginning I had troubles because the scene in the sewers with Connors and the scene in the school were not meant to be joined, but I managed myself to join them in the most coherent way possible. What they wanted in the beginning was to put Peter tracking Connors on the sewers talking to Gwen and THEN he finds him in his lair and the scene happens. The scene where Connors is in the school asking for help was filmed but personally i'm not really sure what were they trying to achieve, because what happens after that scene would transform this into a continuity error. It's possible that they were going in another direction when they began filming this scene. Remember this film also had issues with the studio's vision and the director/screenwriter's vision.
So, in the way I edited it, I wanted to make it look like Peter helped Connors to get to his lab in the sewers, and after Dr. Ratha sprays the serum to Peter and Ratha gets killed by Connors, the Lizard escapes and Peter goes to follow him inserting the scene where he talks to Gwen by phone. The scene with Ratha spraying gas on Peter would explain why in the next scene, Peter is walking slowly: because the gas weakend him.
Connors wanted to spread gas into the city with the Ganali Device because he wanted to transform everyone into Lizard creatures. He explained it before and even in the scene where he is talking to Peter: He wanted to create a world where everyone is equal, evolutioned, better, faster, stronger, with no disseases. The scene is also important because it shows more character development into Connors. Connors wanted first to make a world better but then he became addicted to the Lizard's power, and the he even forgot his original motivation of helping people because of the abuse of power.
Anyways, still thanks for watching.