Njvc has taken an ambitious project and tried to fix some of the issues Dark Knight Rises had. I think many agree this movie was trying to tackle too much, but also at the same time there were missed tones. I did not like the fact Bruce Wayne would have retired for 8 years and though I really liked Tom Hardy's performance as Bane and thought Bane was a great character, the character contradicted itself in the sense is a terrorist? Freedom fighter? Then Bane was demoted to common goon (and not mastermind) under Talia's control, a let down for many.
In njvc's edit, the effort and cuts are good. I think there is quite a bit of improvement in the story and the pacing, but ultimately as much as I had hoped for this fan edit would fix the movie (and I was skeptical it could be saved given the reliance on source material), it is due to the source material that the movie could not be saved. I do recommend watching this cut, it is an improvement and the ending is bold, but it is not enough to be the movie we had hoped, wanted, and maybe hoped to deserve? :)
Well done though njvc, I look forward to your next edits! The editor's skills are not in question, the movie is seemless, even changes in dialogue go unnoticed. To the untrained eye, I don't think you can tell this was an edit and I do recommend watching this cut and for the viewer to make their own opinion if this is the movie they really wanted to see. Thanks njvc!
I used to think the Dark Knight Rises was a fantastic film.
I used to enjoy it - but now my enjoyment has been ruined.
Because Part III of njvc's Dark Knight Saga Recut is THAT GOOD, I don't think I can ever watch the original again. He has weilded his editing scissors to brilliant effect and cut the story down to it's core. And what a core story it is!
njvc has chopped a HUGE amount out of the film - and it's completely unnoticeable.
When you make such drastic changes to a film often the cracks show through - but here njvc has managed to make everything seem seamless. As a fellow faneditor I can appreciate the effort that went into this edit (although I have no idea how he got it so perfect - skills way, way above mine! :-))
The audio work is amazing. It's really hard with such an epic score - but there are no noticeable audio cuts. Outstanding.
As with the other two films, top notch
This was a complex beast to slim down - there are a few rapid changes and very short scenes that may leave some audience members scratching their heads, but by and large everything is very clearly and logically laid out (more so than in the original).
njvc has continued to trim scenes - all sorts of bad or needless dialogue is gone. Nice!
The removal of all the guff about "take back your city" really strengthened the film considerably (and shortened the run-time). Likewise the changes to the annoying second-in-command, and Selina's roommate/friend/lover/thing (who added zip to the film - her absence affected nothing). And the police / army shooting at the kids and Blake to stop them crossing - that really muddied up the ending and it was a relief to have it removed.
But the ending. Oh the ending. It is brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. So much so that I have the feeling that - because of all the other clues left earlier in the film - this was actually Nolan's original ending. It is organic to the film and executed brilliantly.
In summary, I cannot now watch the original - this edit is vastly superior.
I take my hat off to you, sir. Part 2 was a masterclass in trim editing - this was a masterclass in wholesale "ripping apart and putting back together" editing. Incredible work. Send it to Nolan - he'd probably make it an official release (the "Director's cut" :-) )
Do you recommend this edit?
Owner's replyAugust 21, 2014
dangermouse, that is high praise indeed! So great to hear you enjoyed it that much, thank for you for the positive feedback, and for taking the time to watch and review the trilogy. Much appreciated :)
I loved the original movies and watched them all multiple times, that is except this one. This is the first time I saw this one since it came out at the cinema.
This is a great edit and it does it's best at fixing what was unfortunately a horribly bloated movie. The story flows well yet it still suffers and I feel is still too long and drags a bit. But thats a problem that likely cannot be fixed.
The only issue I had was there was a hard cut when the mayor is giving his speech and the volume was barely audible when I watched it on my computer.
Overview - Third part of Nolan’s trilogy was the most ambitious, was the longest, was sluggish, and was weighed down by already irrelevant political stances. njvc made judicious edits, severing the lulls, pruning the Occupy nonsense (in three years few will know what Occupy meant, none will care), fashioning an even darker version of the finale.
Video - Seamless work here. This editor’s projects are always professional, and this was no different. Picture quality was great and all changes flicked by unnoticed.
The only technical issue I had was the file itself. I burn to disc. This would not fit, even on a dual layer. I attempted light compression many times - fail. Finally converted it (which is not a compression) and I was happy with the resultant DVD, but this is a heads up for others who prefer to burn.
Audio - Robust 5.1 score. Work here on par with video editing. Listened with headphones, also cranked the speakers. Blow the roof.
Narrative - The plot moves quicker now and I don’t check to see how much time remains - something I still do with the original. The overall tone is considerably darker, especially with the bulk of humor removed. Batman is not Noir territory, but the fatalistic themes weigh heavy here. Everything about this edit is top shelf, and this ought to be my preferred go-to from now on. However ...
Enjoyment - Second time I watched this, an uneasy perception cast it’s shadow and I was never able to shake it. The ending (and njvc has already alerted viewers to this in his cutlist) goes as dark as it gets for the caped crusader. Indeed, the “Hollywood” ending of Bruce and Selina in an Italian cafe is gone gone gone. Which made me view all Wayne’s efforts, his sacrifices, his dedication as a big pile of nothing.
Batman is now a doomed tragedy. Dying for a city of ingrates. Squandering his fortune on his useless cause, personal trauma demons. Batman becomes as pointless and meaningless as the excised Occupy have-nots. Wayne is Don Quixote, a loser with the Joker’s mocking L on his forehead. There is no peace, no espresso with a female he had chemistry with. Only a big bang demise for citizens who, quite frankly, were undeserving.
That second viewing, as Batman vaporized, I was thinking, “What a schlemiel.” And that is not how I want to perceive him. In every way this edit was stellar, surpassing the original in so many scenes, except - for me - the ending, which rolled around in my mouth like a mouthful of rotten food.