The Alamo - Roadshow Version (1960): Reconstructed in HD

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ALAMO ART for SITE
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Original Movie Title:
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Original Release Date:
1960
Original Running Time:
162
Fanedit Release Date:
Fanedit Running Time:
202
Time Cut:
0
Time Added:
40
Subtitles Available?
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Brief Synopsis:
This is the reconstructed version of the Roadshow with is 40 minutes longer in 720p and STEREO.
Intention:
To compile from the best available commercial sources a preservation of the 202 minute version of The Alamo and thus to recreate the famous TODD.AO Roadshow presentation.

This has the reconstructed Overture, Entre-Acte and Exit Music, using the correct music cues which are well documented.

A custom TODD AO credit, based on a still of the 70mm frame was also added.

The LAserdisc and VHS of the 202 min version were used as the editing reference.
Additional Notes:
The Laser Disc release unfortunately was only in STEREO despite the film winning an Oscar (and 6 other nominations) for its 6 Channel Mix. A custom re-created credit for the TODD AO process was also created. This presentation does not include ANY Fanedit, editor or other self-serving references out of respect to the importance of this film and the hope that the men in suits will restore it. Though the 70mm pristine print from which the Laser Disc and VHS were made has long since been lost (damaged to be precise) due to it mistreatment, many recent restorations from far more challengingly damaged material have been made. For those of you not familiar with this movie, it cost $2 million dollars back in 1960 (about 120 million today). It was produced and directed by John Wayne, a dream project he had long sought to make. The Alamo was shot in 65mm TODD-AO at 30fps, with Roadshow prints struck in 70mm to allow for the 6 channel audio. The film was then cut down for its theatrical release to 2hr 42min and the sole surviving 70mm print (discovered in Canada in 1991) was effectively destroyed after the Laserdisc and VHS was mastered from it in the 90s. Separation masters produced at the time have focus issues, and the surviving 35mm copies are missing the roadshow extra scenes. This edit combines the best of what there is, with some upscaling to 720p, edited in 1080p, and then mastered back to 1080 overall. Minimal sharpening was deployed in some of the recovered Laserdisc material. Although the VHS DOES have a surround track coding on it, syncing this to the whole movie proved to be problematic, and thus this is presented in STEREO only. This has been presented as a preservation, for educational purposes, journalistic comment and entertainment.
Other Sources:
THE ALAMO (Theatrical) - DVD
THE ALAMO (Theatrical) - BLU RAY
THE ALAMO (Roadshow Version) - LASERDISC
THE ALAMO (Roadshow Version) - VHS
THE ALAMO CD Score
OKLAHOMA - Blu Ray Todd AO Version
Special Thanks:
ArtisDead, Dwightfry & Inightmares
Release Information:
Digital
Special Features
MAking of the TODD AO Caption video
Editing Details:
The Laser Disc was upscaled to 720 p, and the movie edited and rendered at 720p from the Blu Ray source intercut with the material unique to the Laser Disc. In some portions, the audio was taken from the Roadshow release on VHS which was brighter than the Laser Disc.
Cuts and Additions:
CHANGES: (Theatrical time stamp for insertions noted)
01: Credits: CUSTOM OVERTURE CREDIT
The logo credits of the Roadshow Cut are longer than in the Theatrical version and have been supplemented with a recreation of the TODD AO credit. 18 sec longer
02: The Roadshow begins with the "Overture" which lasts several minutes. 188 sec longer
03: After General Houston's flying visit at 10:20 The scene with old Jethro & Jim Bowie is longer; 135 sec longer
04: After mayor Segine's warning: 18:14 Col. Travis talks to his best friend Dickinson much longer. An awesome speech. 144 sec longer.
05: In the church basement: 49:33 The Theatrical version shows a short alternative shot of Crockett, Bowie & "Beekeeper" then it fades to black. Cricket and Beekeeper extra scenes 262 sec longer
06 : The next morning: 53:06 After Crockett, Bowie & Co. have left town "Flaca" walks down the stairs and takes a look around in the street scene 69 sec longer
07: Crockett, Bowie & Co. return to the mission: 53:54 "Beekeeper" and Bowie backbite the greenhorn Smitty 20sec longer
08: 58:10 After Crockett has left the room he walks up the stairs to Bowie where they have a little talk. 41 sec longer
09: Crockett & "Flaca" taking a walk: 1:05:48 The conversation between Crockett & "Flaca" is a little longer. 46 sec.
10: Flaca 1:07:29 "Flaca" asks: "Is that what love does, Davy?". 5 sec.
11: Enter' Acte: 11: Entr' Acte 1:16:47 -the Roadshow-typical "intermission". 244 sec.
12: After the "declaration of war": 1:18:28 Significant chunks of Crockett's and Travis' men handing out building materials in the mission and more. Meanwhile Bowie & Crockett visit Col. Travis & Dickinson. James Bonham gets some food. 278 sec.
13: After the night of drinking: 1:36:57 A troop from the fort finds a camp of the Mexican army. Some horsemen from the Mexican army realize this and team up with their comrades. During the shooting at the chase two men from the fort die and one gets wounded on his horse. Sue Dickinson comforts the wives of the two dead men. Mayor Segine and his men ride to the fort at night to support the men, Travis welcomes Segine & his men , Dickinson's daughter Lisas birthday is being celebrated Crockett's men have prepared something special – 537 sec.
CUSTOM ENTR' ACTE CREDIT
14: After the Mexicans' first great attack : 2:04:26 Beekeeper" informs Crockett that Parson was wounded. Crockett and his men leave the frame. 10 sec.
15: 2:04:47 At the doctor's office the next patient is being put on the table before he dies. 170 sec.
16: The night before the crucial attack: 2:15:30 A shot of the men sitting in the darkness. 17 sec.
17-20: Plus longer shots at 2:15:33, 7 sec, 2:15:37 , 5 sec, 2:15:40 , 6 sec, 2:15:43 ,6 sec.
21: 2:16:35 One of the man stands up angrily. 42 sec.
22: 2:16:35 Alternative shot:
23: The crucial battle: 2:23:07
24: another Mexican commander may induce the attack. 2 sec.
25: 2:27:34 The man killed on the wall hangs there a little longer.2 sec.
26: 2:29:24 edited differently than the Theatrical version. No time difference
27: 2:30:41 The badly wounded Crockett is lurching a little longer 5 sec.
28 Credits: 2:35:07 Roadshow-typical "Exit Music" at the end. 200 sec.
29 Custom Credit
30 Custom Exit Music Credit
Title Demo

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Wraith should work as a professional editor in Hollywood or in any studio around the world, talk about talent. This version is so much more inclusive in every way then the copy that I own. The reconstruction is just flawless and I love all of the extra scenes. The audio is also just excellent. This film looks fantastic on a big screen. If only studios took such care and attention to detail before they release films. Just brilliant!!

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I saw the version in 1960 when I was 14. After many years of waiting it is finally in my collection. I wasn't sure I would live long enough. Wraith should work for a Hollywood studio as this is a magnificent job. This will probably be the definitive version unless Amazon/MGM allows a full restoration, if that is even still possible. Don't miss this, if you have any interest in the original Roadshow Version. Kudos to all involved .

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A few years back, I saw an "extended" version of this movie that was pieced together by some random guy. The quality was horrible, almost worse than VHS. I appreciated the effort but the result was not good.

Wraith's version here is extraordinary. The transitions from theatrical cut to extended scenes is masterful. The video and audio quality is superb. Now we have the true "extended" version of this famous and important moment in history. Thank you, Wraith!

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Some of the critics of the FanEdit website have claimed that it is merely a gathering place for hobbyists. Wraith has effectively disproved that criticism with this single movie. The Alamo - Roadshow Version is a historical preservation of the film in its entirety, including all of the footage that was wilfully destroyed by the short-sighted executives and film editors in Hollywood.

Incredibly, the [subjective] entertainment value of this film is surpassed by the [objective] historical value to cinema as an artform. Wraith has done a service to Western culture and, simultaneously, corrected the criminal error that was made decades ago when the original 70mm film was copied to VHS tape and Laserdisc... and then discarded.

The narrative of the film is expanded and "fleshed out" to give a far greater exploration of the characters and the subtle aspects of their personalities, and the interpersonal dynamics between the people involved, not to mention the Alamo itself and its place in the history of the United States.

On behalf of myself and the future viewers of this film... thank you Wraith, for saving a part of our cherished past.

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I grew up watching John Wayne westerns. the Quiet Man and the Alamo were two of my favorites, thanks to my dad. i didn't know there was an extended version until i started reading Wraith's post about this. i can say i enjoyed every minute of this 3 1/2 hour journey. definitely worth the watch.

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