Star Wars: Attack of the Clones 'Sanded Down'Featured
Fanedits and other sources used include:
- Hal9000’s 'The Approaching Storm' (primary source)
- l8wrtr’s 'The Republic Divided'
- The Phantom Editor's 'Attack of the Phantom' (audio only)
- kk650's 'Attack of The Clones Regraded' and 'Revenge of the Sith Regraded'
- Tusken Raider sound effects from 'starwarssoundeffects' on YouTube
- Lucasfilm Ltd. logo treatment from Lucasfilm's official YouTube channel
(2) L8wrtr change
(3) Phantom Editor change
(4) Original change
I’ve credited changes to Hal if they existed in his edit, even if they appeared in other edits first, since I used his edit as the primary video source for this project. Not all scenes that were "moved" are listed here. A lot of them are, but the story still progresses in the same sequence.
- Replaced opening Logos and Fox Fanfare with “Force Awakens” style Lucasfilm Logo cold open. (4)
- New title crawl adapted from Hal9000’s to better define the political plot. (4)
- Camera pans down, rather than up, after the crawl, to maintain continuity with the other six films. (1)
- Removed Captain Typho’s lines before the ship blows up. (1)
- Trimmed Corde’s death. (1)
- Added deleted scene where Padme addresses the Senate. This establishes some context for the political content of this film, as well as Padme's post-Queen character. (1)
- Trimmed the scene in Palptaine’s office to remove unhelpful dialogue. (1)
- Further trimmed the conversation between Padme and Palpatine to remove other characters butting in. (3)
- Trimmed Obi-Wan’s forced laugh in the elevator, but kept the friendly exchange. (4)
- Jar Jar's introduction is removed, cutting from Obi-Wan and Anakin in the elevator to Padme greeting them. (1)
- Anakin’s inappropriate compliments are trimmed liberally in favor of making it a relatable awkward moment for him (2)
- In the interest of downplaying Obi-Wan and Anakin's antagonism, their discussion about their roles in front of Padme is trimmed to get to the point. (1)
- Further trimmed Obi-Wan telling Anakin that he needs to “learn his place”. (4)
- Anakin’s angsty conversation with JarJar is trimmed. (1)
- Removed Jango talking to Zam, to save his reveal for later and remove redundancy. (1)
- Removed scene where Obi-Wan and Anakin merely bicker. (1)
- Cut Anakin’s description of being around Padme as “intoxicating”. (2)
- Tightened Padme’s reaction to Anakin slicing the poison slugs. (1)
- Tightened up the speeder chase to remove overly dumb moments, dialogue, and physics. (1)
- Further tightened the chase by incorporating some (but not all) of L8wrtr’s cuts. (2)
- Anakin doesn't lose his lightsaber, and Obi-Wan doesn't lecture him about it. (1)
- Shortened awkward Katie Lucas cameo. She still appears in another shot in the bar. (2)
- Trimmed the transition from the bar to the back alley. (1)
- Lovingly borrowed audio from The Phantom Editor's version to alter Zam's dying words to, "Kamino system…" (3)
- Cut Windu's instructions to Anakin. It's more effective characterization if Anakin decides to talk to Palpatine himself. (1)
- Jar Jar is not depicted as openly incompetent. Removed his awkward acceptance of his new duties. (1)
- Removed Anakin complaining about Obi-Wan to Padme. Padme consoles him, and they acknowledge that Anakin has grown up. Padme's only initial barrier to him has been dissolved. (1)
- Cut line “It’s not me m’lady, I’m worried about you”. It sounded to me like Natalie Portman said “I’ll be fine” to begin with, making the response nonsensical. (4)
- Removed Dex's Diner sequence and “Yoda and the younglings” sequence. (1)
- Anakin doesn't mention attachment being forbidden. It was an awkward delivery. (1)
- Anakin no longer says “You’re exactly the way I remember you in my dreams”. (4)
- Added deleted scene where Obi-Wan and Mace talk on the landing platform, with minor trims. It replaces a similar scene in the theatrical cut, but is shifted to a different point in the narrative. (1)
- Used extended arrival scene on Naboo. (1)
- Added further trims to this scene to remove “romance novel” dialogue but keep the character background information. (4)
- This transitions to the scene in the Throne Room with the new queen, which is significantly trimmed to remove awkward dialogue and all of Anakin and Padme’s antagonism. (4)
- Removed Kaminoan prime minister listing numbers of clone units. It lessens the power of their reveal in a few scenes. (1)
- Added first deleted scene of Padme with her family. (1)
- Trimmed this scene to remove some of the hokey dialogue. (2)
- Boba Fett is not described as being a clone. He probably still is a clone, but the pacing is off when the movie pauses to talk about him when nobody asked. (1)
- Removed Anakin’s attempt to woo Padme with fascism. (4)
- Added a brand new “love montage” sequence that shows the two chatting over dinner without dialogue, and transitions into a moonlight kiss. This replaces the “cow-tick riding” scene. (4)
- Removed fireplace scene. (1)
- Trimmed Boba’s “Yip!”. (4)
- Added a new Audio-only dream sequence featuring audio of Anakin’s mom screaming and Tusken sounds. (4)
- When Anakin wakes up, Padme is lying in bed next to him. (4)
- Slightly trimmed dialogue when Anakin tells Padme he’s going to find his mother. (2)
- When Obi-Wan reports to Yoda and Windu, removed Windu's perspective-less question about the assassination attempt. (1)
- Removed dialogue about the Jedi not being able to use the force due to the dark side clouding everything. (1)
- Heavily cut down fight in the rain to a brief encounter. (2)
- Trimmed Watto’s dialogue about Anakin helping him with some “deadbeats”. (2)
- Tightened up the Asteroid chase and removed some of the childish Boba moments. (2)
- Removed Threepio recognizing Anakin as "the maker." (1)
- Trimmed “I guess that makes us step brothers”. (2)
- Trimmed Cliegg Lars' dialogue that goes over the top to characterize him as a good guy. (1)
- Very subtly trimmed Anakin’s exchange with his dying mother. (4)
- Removed scene where Yoda senses Anakin's pain. (1)
- Nute Gunray no longer wants Padme’s head “on his desk”. (3)
- Trimmed goofy aliens pledging allegiance to the Count. (1)
- Removed “I killed them all” scene. (1)
- Removed Cliegg’s eulogy. (3)
- Trimmed Anakin’s eulogy. (3)
- Trimmed Padme’s incredulous reaction to R2 (4)
- Obi-Wan identifies Count Dooku as the mastermind of the assassination attempt, rather than Nute Gunray. Otherwise Windu’s mention of “dealing with Count Dooku” seems like a logical leap. (1)
- Trimmed Anakin’s whining about having to follow Mace Windu’s orders. Padme now cuts him off. (4)
- Trimmed dialogue as Palpatine and company discuss what to do. (1)
- Slightly trimmed chat between Dooku and Obi-Wan, including Obi-Wan’s mention of Jango Fett. I don’t think Obi-Wan should want to reveal what he knows to someone he doesn’t trust. (4)
- Trimmed Anakin’s “I’ve learned to stop arguing with you” because it no longer really makes sense in the context of the film. Also cut down droids dialogue before exiting onto the surface of Geonosis. (4)
- Threepio and Artoo stay on the ship and do not make their way into the battle. (1)
- Added a deleted scene on Geonosis to replace the indescribable droid factory action sequence. (1)
- Jar Jar doesn't fumble his words as he proposes giving Palpatine emergency powers. He also doesn't seem caught by surprise when his colleagues applaud him. He appears more competent. (1)
- Yoda doesn’t telegraph to the audience where he’s going in the Senate chamber. (1)
- Trimmed love confession scene to remove Anakin's surprised reaction, because they had not decided not to get together. (1)
- Also removed “I’ve been dying a little bit each day” line. (4)
- trimmed Gladiator sequence to tighten the action and remove corny dialogue. (2)
- Removed Threepio and Artoo from the battle, as well as trimming it up slightly. (1)
- Removed joke about aggressive negotiations since the setup was removed. (3)
- Removed Jango’s weird cowboy pistol twirl thing. (4)
- Removed Geonosian war room sequences for pacing reasons. I don’t mind the Death Star cameo myself, and I still consider part of my personal canon, but the scenes had no bearing on this film. (1)
- Lessened Obi-Wan and Anakin's antagonism after Padme falls out of the transport. (1)
- Removed the Jedi giving the clones military advice; this helps establish the clones as competent soldiers and the Jedi as being dependent upon them (at least initially, before they formally assume their roles as generals) (1)
- Trimmed the duel with Dooku. (1)
- Further Trimmed the weird close-ups of Anakin and Dooku swinging around their sabers in the dark. (4)
- Yoda does not take out a lightsaber. (2)
This is a great edit, and I really really enjoyed it. However, some choices create -- in my view -- some problems for character development, and for the larger Prequel arc. Let me try and explain.
I always rather liked AOTC, and even much of Hayden Christensen's Anakin Skywalker. I don't mind the saccharin sweet elements of the Anakin/ Padme romance. I think it was okay that he was awkward,weird and hated sand.
The original film suffered from a few problems, though. There were issues of bloat, pacing and excessive exposition of trivial points, plus bringing in trivial, and irrelevant stuff: why say the initial assassination attempt on Coruscant was by disgruntled miners from a place no one has heard of, especially if it is not even explained why they are feeling murderous? Does it really matter of Jango is a clone? There are jarring efforts at humour and cuteness, like Jar-Jar Binks' idiocy, Dex's diner, some of the night-time chase after the assassin on Coruscant, too much of the droid factory, and R2D2 and C3PIO in the arena. Then there are stunning gaps on major issues. What was so crucial about Padme's appearance in the Senate that people keep trying to kill her? Who exactly is she?
This edit is absolutely amazing in how it speeds things up, guts the padding, and reintegrates crucial, game-changing deleted footage, notably Padme in the Senate opposing the call for an Army of the Republic (why the original cut dropped this is beyond me), and more on Padme and her family on Naboo (including a much better sense that she is attracted to Anakin, marriage and children from an early point). Whole scenes are gone, like Dex's diner (great) and the droid factory (surprisingly, this is a plus). There is less Anakin/ Obi-Wan bickering, less Anakin strangeness, minimal Jar-Jar (and when he does appear, he's a pretty run-of-the-mill and competent Star Wars alien e.g. when he speaks in Senate, rather than a complete numbskull),and, in general, a lot less talking that goes nowhere.
That said, I think there are two cuts that really do harm the story, both in the film and in the larger Prequel arc I completely admit that preferences of this type are pretty subjective, and that doing an amazing, masterful piece of work like this edit is completely beyond my abilities. I also recognise that anyone can criticise, while not many can create.
That said, I think that in making Anakin a bit more likeable, the edit bends the stick too far in the other direction. The presentation of his darker side was a bit heavy-handed in the original, but a significant part of this should be retained because it is important for understanding his evolution over the story arc, and how his fear of loss leads to anger etc., all the way to going full Sith, galactic dictatorship and mass murder. Otherwise we have a cute kid in Phantom Menace, a geeky guy in AOTC, and suddenly, in the latter part of the ROTS movie, a man who massacres Jedi, and becomes the right-hand man of an evil dictator...
Right now, there is very little left that shows how dark Anakin can be.
The massacre of the Sand People after he finds his mother dying after being captured and apparently tortured at their hands, is gone in this edit;it should have been retained, including Anakin's explanation to Padme that he killed everyone, including kids, and considers them all animals. Here is the direct link between his fear of loss, his rage and his simmering brutality. Without this, its simply shown he killed a few Tusken men after his mother died, rather than going well beyond this into simple evil; without it, the vow at his mother's grave not to fail again is no different in principle than Peter Parker deciding after the death of Uncle Ben that with great power comes great responsibility. Where is the precedent for Anakin's murderous actions in ROTS? With this Sand People material, we get a very clear sense of the depths he can easily plumb, and of the fact that he has no remorse afterwards. It is also a crucial moment of loss in which -- like in ROTS -- he acts emotionally and darkly, rather than being a good Jedi stoic.
Likewise, Anakin's hard-right political views and rants should have been retained, even if trimmed. These views show Anakin's dislike of politicians goes well beyond run-of-the-mill cynicism to something more substantial. Obi-Wan also distrusts politicians, so the contrast between how the two translate this into political views is important and revealing. It also indicates how deep the gulf is between Anakin and Padme on politics and the future of the Republic is. It remains clear in this edit of AOTC that Anakin is being mentored and influenced by Palpatine/ Darth Sidious, and since he is not (yet) being mentored in the Sith arts, on what exactly is Palpatine engaging him?
And, most importantly, these expositions are crucial to moving the development of Anakin from simply the personal and emotional trajectory to the dark side (fear leads to anger etc.) to his political, and (later) quite public (as Darth Vader), trajectory towards dictatorial rule, repression and demands for order. His drive for power, as a response to fear, is not just about getting more power through the Force (and ultimately, the Sith approach) but also about a drive for power over millions of others through the state. That Padme stayed with him is not a huge improbability. Plenty of people marry horrible partners, and plenty of couples disagree on politics in the most profound ways.
That said, I want to thank you again for your incredible efforts in fixing the film. Thank you!
The is the best, most balanced edit of Attack of The Clones currently available. I think it is slightly heavy-handed with some of its cuts, but overall, it succeeds in transforming the source material into something enjoyable and worthy of repeat viewings.
There were some things that were cut or trimmed that I didn't think needed to be. For example, I don't know why the dialog from the dinner date scene was cut. But, despite minor gripes, it's the best edit we currently have.
I look forward to Octorox's future edits.
I have not watched the majority of AotC edits and jumped straight to Octorox', with it being the most recent and admittedly built upon cuts of previous edits that improved the movie overall.
I think the two biggest issues in this movie were originally pace and immersion. Sanded Down definitely fixes both by streamlining narrative and cutting out the most distracting CGI visuals and sequences (ie digi-doubles, diner, naboo cuisine and wildlife, droid factory and most of the arena).
The edit is competent at cuts but there are at least two really jarring transitions (that I spotted) that plucked me right out of the experience. For me the extreme one was when Obi-Wan is about to record his message from Geonosis after his eavesdropping on the separatists, and then there's a split-second out of place transition to Anakin speeding back in Tatooine only to immediately return to Obi-Wan (00:59:30).
The second most abrupt cut is from Naboo to Kamino, from the moonlit kiss to the kaminoan emerging from the sea, where the music harshly changes from one scene to the other (00:37:54). The moonlit scene artificial grading itself did not bother me as much as other people seem to have taken issue with.
Considering the edit borrowed extensively from previous works, however, I think some of the dialogue could have been further trimmed. Mainly the awkward exchanges between Anakin and Padmé, like "you're always going to be that little boy" to an unwarranted "I love you" for an infatuation affair that's only been going on for less than a week, apparently. But overall I think their romance was well handled with the addition (and omission) of some little details here and there.
Personally I'd also like to have seen some lore tightening as in seciors' cutlist, such as removing red-herrings as Syfo-Dyas and Darth Tyrannus mentions. But that, of course, is not mandatory fanfixin'.
All in all, Sanded Down might actually be the more balanced AotC edit out there, but not without it's downsides. It's easy to overlook the rough cuts and missed opportunities with dialogue, though, in exchange for a bloat-free, better Star Wars episode.
Brilliant work. Definitely the best AOTC edit I've seen. Love the new opening with the deleted scene. Padme needs to be seen addressing the senate or why should we invest in all this hub-ub over her coming to Coruscant to speak? Instead of delivering all this exposition through formal speeches, now at least we get it first in an empassioned plea from a protagonist we already know. Excellent. Oh, also Anakin is likeable, and Obi Wan can be charming instead of seeming like a dick all the time. Imagine that! The video quality is also stunning. Only criticism would be the love scene feels too abrupt. I'd cut it and go straight to Kamino, and let it all be implied.