Star Trek Vengeance

Definitely better than the original. Better I'd say even than the first one. It looks better, the pacing is better, there is less filler, the story is tighter. It looks great too. The color here definitely is better than the original's; it pretty much reminded me of the original Trek movies a lot. The influence from the Trek movies definitely helps.

Minor issues affect the edit: namely the very ending. Everything straight from the beginning was top-notch, but the very ending seems a bit flat. The original's choice to keep the fight between Khan and Spock suspenseful by revealing the necessity for Khan's survival a little later was good. This edit bypasses that suspense and because of that, the final fight isn't as cathartic. Leaving that part in would've surely tied the edit together thematically in connection with the title: Vengeance. Actually, I do have an issue with the title because thematically, vengeance isn't a very big aspect of the story. I get that the reference to the USS Vengeance is a bigger reason for the title being that way, but Star Trek has always been neat in titling its movies. The Wrath of Khan is very poetic and spot-on. Generations, Nemesis, etc. Vengeance being the title here isn't very strong. Finally, the edit tried a little too hard to end the film in a more isolated manner, but it ends up being too rushed. It needed the lengthier ending of the original. Kirk's speech in particular at the end is very awkwardly cut, straight into the Final Frontier speech.

Overall, the visuals are great, and the visual editing is too. The audio just kinda suffers a bit with the awkward cutting at the very end. Nitpicky and anal? Perhaps, but that awkwardness right at the very end kind of breaks the spell that the film holds on you, especially after such a masterful experience beforehand. Another auditory badness is the mixing. I wish something could be done for the mixing because it still has that theater-intended mix that sounds terrible on TV. Finally, the narrative is just a little iffy, as in the examples I've stated above. Overall, as the edit is now, I'd give it a solid 6.5/10, while the original was a 4. It'd be a 7 if the ending was fixed.

This edit is great, simple as that. I very much enjoy the new Star Treks, Into Darkness the least of the 3, but I still enjoyed it. That being said, I do agree with the criticisms of it. This edit did a great job of getting rid of all the little things I didn't love about it.

TM2YC does the.. well the possible... what should have been done in the first place.

I wanted to enjoy this movie in theatres, I wanted to enjoy it when I bought the DVD to share with my dad (avid star trek fan) and I did, despite a lot of moments that make me raise my eyebrow. Why bother having Kirk demoted and repromoted? They sting you with it and immediately take it back. Spock yelling Khan in theatres got a chuckle out of me and I can't imagine that was the intended result.

That and a few other things, but this edit makes the movie what it should have been. Enjoyable from start to finish.

The edits are clean. Minor thing when a line of Spock's is changed at one point, his lips do not match up - so minor it doesn't lose points and I am sure I only noticed because I wrote the subtitles :).

TM2YC has produced a wonderful edit. The biggest difference maker to me was the color correction. Unfortunately, there is some color speckling here and there where the color correction wasn't 100%. Despite that slight issue, I thought this worked really well. I felt this was a fantastic improvement over the original. I will note that, having watched it with people who had seen Into Darkness, but not Wrath of Khan, some individuals felt there was a particular scene missing from the edit. As a long time Star Trek fan, I disagree with them. :)

TM2YC has done an excellent job fixing the major problems with "Into Darkness," including some I hadn't thought were fixable (such as Kirk's demotion and Uhura's characterization). The FX work he's done to get some of these changes to work is nothing short of flawless, and I noticed no audio issues on my 2.1 soundbar setup.

Narratively, I still have my issues with the film, specifically Khan's magical healing blood and the "Wrath of Khan" remake B.S. with Kirk that makes the magical healing blood necessary to the plot, but the way it's been edited here makes it all much more palatable. And I have to say, bold (but very smart!) choice in cutting Nimoy from the film - I wouldn't have thought a fan editor would have the guts to do that now that he's sadly gone, but it is absolutely the right choice for this film.

"Star Trek: Vengeance" now it sits comfortably alongside the theatrical ST09 and Beyond discs on my shelf, forever replacing the theatrical cut with no reservations whatsoever.