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Star Trek – Kirkless Generations
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Original Movie Title:
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Original Release Date:
1994
Original Running Time:
118
Fanedit Release Date:
Fanedit Running Time:
78
Time Cut:
42
Time Added:
2
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Brief Synopsis:
This is Star Trek Generations without Captain Kirk, but as a true NEXT GENERATIONS movie. Impossible? Nope.
Intention:
We do not hate Captain Kirk, but he spoiled this movie nevertheless. Although the beginning is kind of nicely done, it is still not a worthy death for James T., so it had to be deleted. Our plan was to make this the first Next Generation’s movie, filling all the plot holes between the TV show and the movie “First Contact”. It was difficult was to make up a story without Kirk that would work, and since we did not want Picard to fight Soren two times with bare hands, the 50 gigawatts force field had to knock him out. Our edition is an improvement over the original, if you like Next Generation and did not like Captain Kirk in this movie. 42 minutes of cut footage is a lot, but for the pace of the movie it was good. See for yourself.
Release Information:
DVD
Special Features
- Languages: English, German, Spanish, French, Italian
- Subtitles: English, Spanish, Portugese, Swedish, Norwegian, Polish
- Trailer
- 3 Deleted Scenes (approx 40 mins)
- Cover and Disk Art
- CBB Special
- Subtitles: English, Spanish, Portugese, Swedish, Norwegian, Polish
- Trailer
- 3 Deleted Scenes (approx 40 mins)
- Cover and Disk Art
- CBB Special
Cuts and Additions:
- added Picard’s family book intro from Generations specail edition
- removed the entire beginning including the Enterprise B scenes
- removed all Captain Kirk scenes in the Nexus and in the real world
- removed Picard scenes with Kirk as well as Picard scenes after he could not defeat Soren the first time
- removed Riker saying: “that was the flight James T. Kirk died on”
- mirrored Kirk hitting Soren, because we needed a right hand to knock Soren down the hill.
- added special warp-out-of-Nexus effect (video and sound)
- removed end credits and created our own (the crew from Star Trek O.S. is not participating in our movie and there are many people who are worthy of saying thank you to)
- removed the entire beginning including the Enterprise B scenes
- removed all Captain Kirk scenes in the Nexus and in the real world
- removed Picard scenes with Kirk as well as Picard scenes after he could not defeat Soren the first time
- removed Riker saying: “that was the flight James T. Kirk died on”
- mirrored Kirk hitting Soren, because we needed a right hand to knock Soren down the hill.
- added special warp-out-of-Nexus effect (video and sound)
- removed end credits and created our own (the crew from Star Trek O.S. is not participating in our movie and there are many people who are worthy of saying thank you to)
Cover art by CBB (
User reviews
25 reviews
Overall rating
8.5
Audio/Video Quality
8.2(6)
Audio Editing
9.2(5)
Visual Editing
8.2(6)
Narrative
8.4(5)
Enjoyment
8.7(25)
Overall rating
9.4
Audio/Video Quality
10.0
Audio Editing
9.0
Visual Editing
8.0
Narrative
10.0
Enjoyment
10.0
I'm reviewing from memory, but I thought this was a lovely edit. Whilst I prefer Kirk in the movie (despite how he was written), this beautifully crafts a final chapter for the TNG era before heading into the later movies. Picard exiting the nexus and the end sequence all work fine, no complaints, although I do agree with everyone about the slow-motion shots, but these were probably unavoidable.
The one thing I miss is the triumphant Generations overture, but the new opening is far more appropriate for this edit.
Nice one!
The one thing I miss is the triumphant Generations overture, but the new opening is far more appropriate for this edit.
Nice one!
T
Overall rating
9.2
Audio/Video Quality
8.0
Audio Editing
10.0
Visual Editing
9.0
Narrative
10.0
Enjoyment
9.0
I rather enjoyed this fanedit. It's much better than the original (since I do not need to see a beloved character be killed for no good reason). But there was an obvious slow-down effect and it was obvious when Kirk hit Soren and not picard.
User Review
Do you recommend this edit?
Yes
Format Watched?
DVD
W
(Updated: September 15, 2012)
Enjoyment
7.0
Review by kerr — November 19, 2010 @ 8:58 pm
*This rating was given before reviews were required*
*This rating was given before reviews were required*
K
(Updated: September 15, 2012)
Enjoyment
7.0
Review by Kevinicus — September 6, 2010 @ 6:03 am
I didn’t know about this edit until about a week ago, and just watched it today. I always thought Generations was my favorite Star Trek of the Next Gen batch, and I think I remembered it a lot better than it really was. I was curious about this fanedit, because I thought the ending would be a little difficult to work around, and wanted to see how it was handled.
My concerns were confirmed when it got to the climax. While it’s not done too bad, it was pretty noticeable to me. Also, the fade effect thing to get out of the Nexus, while it technically works, just came across a little iffy to me.
Really, removing Kirk didn’t do anything for me since I never really minded him much to begin with, and I felt something was missing with all the references to the older Enterprise. There were however a lot of parts (particularly with Data) that I found myself wishing had been removed.
Overall it’s okay, and the movie being a lot cheesier than I remember doesn’t help. Perhaps it’s the stark contrast to the most recent Star Trek that makes this a pretty bad movie in comparison.
I didn’t know about this edit until about a week ago, and just watched it today. I always thought Generations was my favorite Star Trek of the Next Gen batch, and I think I remembered it a lot better than it really was. I was curious about this fanedit, because I thought the ending would be a little difficult to work around, and wanted to see how it was handled.
My concerns were confirmed when it got to the climax. While it’s not done too bad, it was pretty noticeable to me. Also, the fade effect thing to get out of the Nexus, while it technically works, just came across a little iffy to me.
Really, removing Kirk didn’t do anything for me since I never really minded him much to begin with, and I felt something was missing with all the references to the older Enterprise. There were however a lot of parts (particularly with Data) that I found myself wishing had been removed.
Overall it’s okay, and the movie being a lot cheesier than I remember doesn’t help. Perhaps it’s the stark contrast to the most recent Star Trek that makes this a pretty bad movie in comparison.
K
(Updated: September 15, 2012)
Enjoyment
10.0
Review by mullholland665 — July 9, 2010 @ 9:25 am
A really great edit! This works so incredibly well that it got me wondering: was the screenplay originally written without Kirk’s character, only to be inserted in a later draft? The quality of the editing is very smooth too.
With the Kirk character gone, the plot strand about Piccard and his longing for a family instead of the all-consuming Starfleet career was something I found incredibly moving this time around. The film in its original form got distracted from that element due to Kirk’s unnecessary presence in the story. Thanks CBB for turning a flawed movie into what is for me now one of the great ones in the Star Trek franchise.
A really great edit! This works so incredibly well that it got me wondering: was the screenplay originally written without Kirk’s character, only to be inserted in a later draft? The quality of the editing is very smooth too.
With the Kirk character gone, the plot strand about Piccard and his longing for a family instead of the all-consuming Starfleet career was something I found incredibly moving this time around. The film in its original form got distracted from that element due to Kirk’s unnecessary presence in the story. Thanks CBB for turning a flawed movie into what is for me now one of the great ones in the Star Trek franchise.
M