I have a real soft spot for the 90s Spider-Man show and this arc in particular, it turned me into a rabid Spidey fan for five minutes in the mid-90s before I returned to my otherwise 40-year DC obsessive streak. It was great to see PE tweak this three-parter into a more substantive mini-film that holds up much better to modern scrutiny. Venom was never going to be as cool as his build-up suggests, and his behaviour in the final act suggests a half-hearted stalker rather than the gravest threat our hero has ever faced, but at least we no longer have to endure "Venom, angry trucker" that we've all seen the .gif of.
On this re-watch I had to wonder if the decision to make the primary plot revolve around purely John Romita-created villains (Kingpin, Shocker, Rhino) was a coincidence, as if the lack of Ditko's deeply unsettling rogues gallery might not make for a strong enough contrast with Venom. Food for thought, anyway; but while the original story could have used a little less JR and a little more Todd McFarlane in its DNA, PE has still made the best possible version of this story sequence and as a nostalgia trip, it's a damn good one.
SD source. Looks more or less as good as my DVD. I actually watched the Carnage episodes on Disney Plus afterwards and it looked a lot worse... I'm assuming maybe they did a quick upscale or something? Really doesn't look good. Spider-man's suit is a blur of red that smothers the black web-lines.
Anyway... I digress. The quality here is good considering the source. I didn't see any of the random coloured rectangles that another reviewer mentioned.
Nothing stood out as off to me beyond some jittery animation and quick cuts, but I think that's just the nature of the way the series is animated and edited. I checked the cut-list and nothing indicated to me that what I saw was as a result of the cuts.
Didn't notice any transitions. Nice work.
As mentioned above, the series has a "rushed" feel to it generally, so it's not really something that's fair to criticise. I do think that it gets a bit tiring when the episode is an hour long rather than 20 minutes, but that's the nature of the beast.
There were, however, two moments that stood out to me as particularly quick and they were moments that were cut by the editor. One was the meeting of the buyers with the Kingpin, and the other was Jameson and Spidey's meet-up prior to rescuing Jameson's son. It's been too long since I've seen the original to know whether the difference is negligible or not, I just know that it felt over-quick and that the cut-list shows changes were made there. These are pretty minor qualms though and these moments can still be argued to be in line with the way the series generally presents its narrative.
No narrative issues were observably introduced. A couple of observations below, neither of which affect the rating:
- The attempt to cut Brock's hatred for spider-man seems superfluous. It's apparent that he's out for revenge, and other moments allude to that. I don't think the line that was removed achieved what was intended.
- I kinda find it funny that select quips were cut, presumably in reducing silliness or cheese. Boy, this show is drenched in cheese, silly lines and terrible puns - this edit included, despite trims. It's kinda just the nature of the show, so trimming some and not others again seems superfuous.
This was a very enjoyable nostalgia trip. I used to watch this on the telly a lot back in the day and I would often rewatch the venom-related episodes on my DVD. I always favoured those episodes since it leans into more space, aliens and science fiction, which is very much my bag.
Subjectively, I was sad to see the opening sequence in space go, but I understand the reasoning for it being cut. I would also have liked to have seen the Carnage episodes incorporated, which I think is possible, though would require quite a bit more narrative tweaking.
All in all: Well put together with plenty of tweaks and trims that I didn't pick up on and I can only assume improved things in most cases. Having watched other episodes of the show recently, I can confirm that there are some pretty laughable and dodgy moments with the animation, and I hardly noticed that kind of thing here. Great job!
I can just imagine Problem Eliminator’s thought process well trying to fix all the technical errors ‘’YOU CAN’T ESCAPE ME I’ll EDIT YOU TO THE ENDS OF THE EEEEEEEEARTH!!!!!!!!!!!! joke aside his ability to remove most of the technical errors that plagued these three episodes is certainly impressive and the removal of most of the kiddish and cheesy lines of dialogue as well as the exclusion of characters illogical actions and phrases made this Alien Saga Fanedit an enjoyable, nostalgic and streamlined experience for me.
Saying that though there were a few things that detracted from my enjoyment of the edit the first being the flashback of Peter reflecting on how the symbiote has changed the way he’s interacted with others as he was about to crush Rhino as I feel like most people would understand the reason for his hesitation though as to how it could have been cut and worked around the scene when Spiderman says ‘’Can’t I’’ could have than cut to the shot of Rhino cowering in fear which would also have minimised the issue of being forced to use recycled footage just to move the narrative forward.
I also noticed various rectangular shapes at the top of the screen and some in other places of the screen with most of them being green while others are white and some are slightly faded into the background the first of them I saw was at this point 24:29 and from there they kept appearing at Irregular intervals soon after though I may have missed some from Part I and well not as persistent as those rectangular shapes I did notice a few small black dots occasionally appear on the screen.
I hate when people just give all 10's and say "not much to say, great job!" but here I am. This is exactly what PE's detailed description makes it sound like. It's a perfectly executed faithful adaptation of the much-loved Spider-Man show from the '90s. Watching this, you'd never know it originally had commercials in it or was three separate episodes. Both the audio and video cuts are flawless. I only detected one instance where a line was difficult to hear due to the music (2nd Spidey/Rhino fight) but that might have been in the original audio. The story flows very well, and while a few of the cut lines on the cutlist seemed unnecessary to me, I also didn't miss them. So: probably a good call.
This thing has a frantic pace where they jam a ton of story in to a short time. That was just the style of the original cartoon, and watching this really brought me back. Despite being made for kids, this is far more enjoyable than the theatrical version of Spider-Man 3. Now if only PE can make a cut of the Green Goblin's episodes, we could throw that on back to back with this for a total SM3 replacement! (Please, please.)
I grew up watching the Spider-Man TAS show as a kid. I owned the VHS tape to all 3 episodes and would watch them very often. To see an edit such as this was very interesting to watch and prove that it could have been a straight to video movie! This edit proves that it could have easily been that.
Video: The quality of the video is as best as to the quality that has been released, so no Blu-Ray quality here, although I fully knew what I was into. The nostalgia in me thought it was fine, but it may seem low quality to some due to the dvd quality of the video from a 90s tv show. There are rumors that Spider-Man TAS may come out on Blu-Ray one day, where this edit would definitely be the better for it. Seeing this in full on Blu-Ray remastered quality would be spectacular!
Audio: Once again, the audio is as best as the quality that has been released yet. My feelings for this are the same for video, where a remastered version could one day benefit this great forgotten show hence better this edit!
Editing: I honestly didn't notice any changes since I was enjoying watching this edit too much. There were only a couple places where I noticed since there were some cringy dumb moments here and there in the original where I found that they had disappeared in this edit. Combining the episodes was seamless. Well done!
Narrative: No great immense changes here, but keeping it relatively the same with cuts here and there is truly enjoyable. Well done!
Enjoyment: Overall, this was a great edit where Spider-Man fans who remember watching the cartoon should give this a shot as it portrays the symbiote storyline as it was meant to be!