Spider-Man 3: The Enemy Within

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Spider-Man 3: The Enemy Within
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Original Release Date:
2007
Original Running Time:
139
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Fanedit Running Time:
116
Time Cut:
23
Time Added:
4
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Brief Synopsis:
The Enemy WIthin cuts over 20 minutes from the film, and adds back a selection of deleted scenes from the trailers as well as the official Editor's Cut, and trims various lines and subplots. Sandman is no longer Uncle Ben's killer, cheesy scenes and moments are gone, creating a much tighter and potentially darker film.

Swing by for a fresh ride, as Spider-Man 3 is cut down into the best film it can be.
Intention:
I wanted to make the best cut of the film that I could, trimming out a lot of the fat and getting rid of the Uncle Ben subplot. And as I've seen the recent-ish release of the Editor's Cut with some new scenes that really add to the narrative, and with no fanedits that I know of using these new scene, I thought it wasn't a bad idea for me to do as well. SM3 has always been a favourite of mine since I was a kid, so it was fun to mess around with it and fix it up.
Other Sources:
Spider-Man Origins Collection Bonus Disc - The Editor's Cut (which is the base for the edit) and some trailers are included on this disc
Spider-Man: The Game (PS2) - For a Spidey line, grunt and some SFX here and there
Spider-Man 3 Trailers - A few shots for the symbiote chest and the Venom mirror scene were taken from a couple different trailers online
Spider-Man 3: Original Motion Picture Score by Chrisopher Young - Select tracks were used to fill gaps here and there
Release Information:
Digital
Editing Details:
I've taken reference from a few edits, mainly badscooter's Redemption and ItsSoRandom's Back and Black, but the editing is all me.
The Editor's Cut was used as the base as there are some alternate scenes and some cut scenes that I was a big fan of. Mainly just some little bits that weren't too important, but the film works better without them. There's a mildly new colour grading compared to the old BR, but I haven't touched it as I didn't notice much of a difference. There is also a lot of new score, as Chrisopher Young's work was re-recorded in the theatrical cut and composed with Danny Elfman doing some work, but with this new EC, the original score was reinstated.
Cuts and Additions:
- changed the opening credits from a bright blue to a grey-black
- cut the kids walking away from the screen and Pete trying to lure them back
- cut Pete's "I'm so nervous" when the music starts as the 2 guys squash him
- cut most of the Harry and Pete dialogue in their confrontation outside the play
- cut most of Peter and MJ's talk backstage as the Harry convasation transitions into Harry and the Goblin Serum
- cut the cops rolling away as Marko watches
- cut Marko's ex-wife saying "you maybe even killed a man"
- cut Marko's ex-wife saying "you and the truth in a box...eating 3 meals a day"
- cut Marko saying "I'm not a bad guy, just bad luck"and rearranged some shots to compensate
- cut Aunt May's story about Uncle Ben. It's not bad, it just slows the scene right down and drags quite a bit
- cut some of the struggle in the Harry/Pete fight before Harry cuts him
- trim some of Pete swinging and blasting web balls at Harry
- cut Pete's goofy close up as he's falling
- cut a close up of Pete's goofy face as he's being dragged across the building
- cut a cop telling Cpt. Stacy about Marko's whereabouts and his involvment in Uncle Ben's murder
- cut Marko punching a cop dog
- cut shot of Marko diving into the sandpit (Editor's Cut change)
- cut the scientists from the Sandman creation scene
- cut the nurse talking to Harry about his friends and the "subtle" foreshadowing
- cut everything in the MJ Review convo between 'this is about me" and "it's just, i look at these words"
- cut "they sound like my father wrote them" as the police dispatcher interrupts her as she sighs
- cut Pete's "Go get em tiger?"
- cut Pete's "I'm sorry"
- cut Gwen's modeling scene and thw whole "I've got a secret, it's my copeyah"
- rescored the intial crane impact instead of the upbeat music playing in the office
- cut Eddie's "are you smiling? just kidding"
- cut Eddie's "he makes you look kind of bloated, y'know a little chunky". He now calls Parker an amateur and Spidey reponds with an "Okay?"
- cut the JJJ and Ted Raimi slogan/vibrating desk pill scene
- cut Pete's goofy dancing to the marching band
- replaced Spidey's "Shazam!" with a "Yahoo!" courtesy of Spider-Man: The Game (2002)
- cut the kid being disgusted at Spidey kissing Gwen
- cut Pete talking to himself at the table as he reherses what Gwen might say
- Added 2 new shots of Symbiote crawling up Peter's chest, creating the new symbol, from trailers
- Cut Peter saying, 'This is something else', replaced with…
- Added shot of Black Suit Spidey jumping off building from trailer
- Move Dr Conners explaining the symbiote to later
- Cut entire scene Peter going back to his apartment and chosing the Black Suit. The first two black suit scenes are back to back
- Cut Eddie getting out digital camera
- shortened shot of Marko looking at the ceiling (Editor's Cut change)
- Cut ‘Remember Ben Parker?’ ect.
- Cut shot of Spider-Man swinging through the water as Sandman is "killed"
- Cut Peter making his emo fringe in the alley mirror
- Cut Mr Ditkovich saying Pete is a good boy and "must be in trouble" after Pete tells him to fix this damn door
- Added new shots of Peter seeing Venom in his reflection, as he rips the suit off
- Cut Pete telling Aunt May that Spidey killed Marko
- Move Dr Conners scene to after Peter sees Venom in the mirror, as this spook was the inciting incident to investigate the suit
- Cut Harry telling Bernard to get some food
- Cut Peter apologising to Mr Ditkovich (Editor's Cut change)
- Added scene of Peter looking at the Black Suit case (Editor's Cut change)
- Cut Norman saying 'Make him wish he were dead. First, we attack his heart (Editor's Cut change)
- Replaced scene of Ursila telling Pete he has a phone call with an alternate version (Editor's Cut change)
- Added scene of Peter opening the Black Suit case and smiling (Editor's Cut change)
- Cut Peter walking down street glancing at girls
- Cut "I'm gonna put some dirt in your eye"
- Added Black Suited Spider-Man swinging in daytime (Editor's Cut change)
- Added Peter putting away the Black Suit and looking famished (Editor's Cut change)
- Moved restaurant scene after Eddie being fired (Editor's Cut change)
- Cropped shot to remove waitress
- Cut waitress 'How's the pie?' and Harry's response 'So good'
- Replaced intro to Pete and Harry fight with an alternate version (Editor's Cut change)
- Cut a shot of Harry pulling the knife out of Pete as the next shot is a different take but slightly zoomed
- Cut a shot of Pete dodging the Goblin sword
- Cut another shot of Pete dodging the sword as the glider flies around the room
- Cut Pete's "Look at little Goblin Jr, gonna cry?"
- Added Spider-Sense sound when Harry throws pumpkin bomb at Peter
- Cut 'Funky Souls' montage
- Cut Sandman saying 'Penny' after he reforms
- Added Sandman visiting his daughter in the form of a sandcastle (Editor's Cut change)
- Cut “I swear to you, he will not stop me again” at the end of the Sandcastle scene
- Trim jazz club scene, now he only dances with Gwen
- Added a few seconds of black after Venom swallows the camera
- Cut Peter talking to Aunt May and trying to give back the ring, only for her to inspire him in some way (Editor's Cut change)
- Modulated Venom's voice to deepen it and add some reverb
- cut "we now crosslive..." from the anchorman
- cut "we're only 100 feet away now" from the reporter
- Cut Bernard the Butler telling Harry that Norman killed himself (Editor's Cut change)
- Added scene of Harry looking at a photo of himself, MJ and Peter as he cries (Editor's Cut change)
- Cut the news reporter talking about hope and some clapping crowd shots here
- Trim shot of Spidey landing on the taxi for some coninuity between shots
- Cut straight from Venom smashing through the top of the taxi to Spidey falling into the web
- Cut “We can settle this” and the entire exchange. It's now simply "You made me lose my girl..."
- Removed news reporter and crying girl when Sandman is beating Peter
- Cut one of Sandman's hits to fix continuity with Spidey's position
- Cut Sam Rami’s kids saying 'Awesome!' and 'Wicked cool!'
-Cut “I may need some help over her” and “I’m a little busy”
- Cut JJJ asking the kid for a job and her response
- Cut the "films extra" gag as well
- Cut Harry yelling 'Am I interrupting?'
- Cut all shots of Harry before he jumps in front of the glider
- Create custom matte to cover Harry in one shot
-Cut Peter reaching for the bar, now he just webs it
- Cut a shot of Peter looking back and forth before he webs the bar
- Cut “You had a choice when you killed my uncle”
- Cut “I told your uncle all I wanted was the car” and subsequent flashback
- Cut close ups of Peter/MJ crying

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I gotta say compare to other fan edits such as "spider-man 3: redemption" this is possibly the best version of spider-man 3 and the best overall fan edit of said movie. Unlike redemption, the edits and cuts feel more natural and scenes are fleshed-out with better context than being abrupt with awkwardly forced transitions in-between scenes from the former though there are similarities between the two like the dance scene at the jazz club for example. My favorite part is when Spider-man forgives the sandman for Harry's Death than Uncle Ben's death instead. The tone is more balanced with drama and comedy like in the first movie thanks to the deleted scenes that even it out. But My only complaint which is me just being nit-picky was the removal of the bully Maguire montage because while yes it was cringe-worthy and maybe the scene that jumped the shark but I warmed to it to the point of nostalgia. But also the montages are traditional within the trilogy such as the city montage in the first movie and the spider-man no more montage in the second movie so to me the third movie feels pretty alien without one. Overall this is another great fan edit by Bobson Dugnutt that made this movie a worthy entry to the spider-man trilogy than feeling like it's black sheep.

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It's incredible how cutting 20 minutes from a film can make it feel closer to being complete, this has become the definitive version of the film to me. The unnecessary dialogue, scenes, and entire side plots (Uncle Ben retcon -_-) being removed enhance the film so much that it makes this seem like the "real" Spider-Man 3. The core narrative themes of love, guilt, forgiveness and the story arcs pertaining to them that were built over the trilogy are handled and concluded in a way that feels much more natural.

The cuts are mostly unnoticeable with the only exception being the removal of the modeling scene which felt a bit awkward. The addition of deleted content works well and because I have only seen the theatrical version, it was very fun to see all of it for the first time. There were a few video compression issues during scenes with Sandman, audio quality changing during the Symbiote takeover scene and my nitpicky personal preferences but it didn't detract from my overall enjoyment. In conclusion, just watch this edit.

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QUALITY

Quality is decent overall, but some odd scenes look to be more heavily compressed with some noticeable artifacts. I know that trailers are used as additional sources, so maybe that has something to do with it? One example is 24:40 when sandman is "collecting" himself.

55-ish - During the montage, some of the audio seems quite brittle/artifacty


VISUAL

I thought that the opening credits being black instead of blue was a nice touch and much more fitting.

There were a couple of visual cuts that felt rushed:

- 7:37
- 36:54

When Peter is being taken over by the symbiote there is a visual montage. I assumed this was new, because it feels a bit random and I'm not sure what it's meant to be conveying (also references to Uncle Ben's killer, showing the face of someone who isn't sandman), but I can't see it on the cutlist... so I'll assume it's from the original. Either way, I don't think emphasising Uncle Ben's killer is relevant since that thematic is no longer explored in this edit (though I guess that's more of a narrative comment).


AUDIO

Venom's voice sounded odd to me, which I assumed was in the original, but scanning through the cutlist I see that it was pitch-shifted and modulated. Comparing with the original, the original is preferable. Some kind of modulation is a good idea, but I don't think the execution works here.

Misc audio things:

- 53:25 - the score clashes noticeably during a crossfade
- 1:01:21 - both visual and audio are abrupt here

Unfortunately, I'm scoring lower than I'd like because of an error where the audio completely drops out at 8:19. It only happens for a couple of lines, but it is there and it shouldn't be.


NARRATIVE

I haven't seen this film for over 10 years... so I came in pretty fresh and with only a vague memory. My impression after this viewing is that it is a choppy mess. I believe Bobson has improved some things, even if I can't accurately judge to what degree. I certainly cringed less... there are still some moments I'd rather be gone, but overall I found it considerably more watchable and not half as bad as I remember.

Unfortunately, one of the biggest narrative changes of the edit just doesn't hold together, and that is sandman no longer being uncle ben's killer. While it is a decision that makes perfect sense (a pretty jarring retcon), things still allude to the fact. At a push, spiderman's initial seeking out of sandman to pick a fight works based on the symbiote suit, but it's still a little random. Also, at the end of the film, they both have a conversation where it's very clear that the context is uncle ben's death. They talk of forgiveness, how he needed the money etc... in this version, if anything, it is sandman that should be forgiving peter, not the other way around. I don't think the scene works here at all.

But to expand on that further, if sandman is no longer Ben's killer, why is he in this film? Everything to do with sandman feels like an unrelated subplot that distracts from the main storyline. I'm surprised no one has tried to excise him entirely in a fanedit yet.

One other thing is at 28:39 when I think originally Mary Jane and Peter exchange words and then he leaves... now they say nothing at all, and he leaves abruptly, which just comes across as callous and out of character at that point. The editing itself is fine, but it felt like such an odd character moment that I thought it was very unlikely it would be in the original.


ENJOYMENT

The cut-list shows that a lot has been done here, and not being overly familiar with the theatrical I find it hard to judge thoroughly, but Spider-man 3 still comes across like a mess to me and some narrative problems are introduced. However, I did enjoy this iteration and found it to be less cringy than I remember, which is nice (and certainly it is a blessing to be without the strut scene). Some effects have not aged well (that initial fight with the goblin) and on a subjective level, I would have liked to have seen some of that trimmed.

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I'll start this off by saying this is has become my favorite fan edit. Watching Spider Man 3 at the cinema when it first was released was one of the biggest cinematic disappointments of my young life. Having loved the previous two films, and Toby Maguire being my personal favourite actor in that role, I still remember walking out feeling so confused by what I had just witnessed. Why is Peter Parker dancing on chairs in a Jazz Club? Why did we need Sandman killing Uncle Ben? Why is there so much cringe? Please God, no more cringe! But what Bobson Dugnutt has been able to do with this edit is a miracle, turning a tonally, and thematically confused film that I felt was unwatchable and turned it into a thrilling, compelling, and thoroughly entertaining end to the trilogy. The editing and sound mix throughout was seamless, with all the worst being removed without a choppy feeling and smoothly adding in great unused m0ments. All of the extra Venom footage worked so well in building on Peters's darker moments.

To finish this off, it was so good that my partner who was going to bed early ended up staying until the end and asked me, "why have we never watched this before? it was great!".


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I know it's popular to take shots at this movie, but I still remember how disappointing it was seeing this in theatres after loving Spider-Man 2. After re-watching the original 2 movies before this edit, there are still several things I dislike about the movie as a whole, but what a difference this makes. Getting rid of the some of the worst parts of the movie (Sandman being Uncle Ben's killer, that terrible dance, etc) really did help the better parts of this movie shine. Somehow despite these helpful cuts it still feels like there's too much going on, and if I didn't enjoy the spectacle of the Sandman scenes I might be tempted to prefer a "no-Sandman" edit approach.

Putting aside any prejudice I have against this movie as a whole, this was a fantastic edit that really did the best job possible with the material given. It definitely helps me appreciate the movies as a trilogy, instead of just "those two good movies and the one we don't ever talk about".

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