I have a lot of mixed thoughts about this edit. I was very excited to see how it worked out, taking one of my favorite flawed movies and improving upon it big time. DonkeyKonga's edit list sounded pretty interesting so I gave it a watch. After doing so, I figured my review would work better in a good/bad split way:
What I liked:
• Flipped Boba Fett to face the right way in Jabba's palace.
• Much fewer Ewok antics.
• Trimming the first Vader/Luke convo was great. Vader is now less sad and unsure sounding. Keeping him still very cold and serious, but the last shot brilliantly shows he’s internally having some doubts about his loyalty to the Emperor.
• It was really good to remove the Imperial general saying the Emperor has "a special surprise" for the Rebels. Now it’s actually surprising when the Emperor reveals to Luke the Death Star is operational.
What I didn't like:
• The video quality is kind of low. It looks like a softer past version, especially since this is based off of the original theatrical cut and not the more recent Special Edition (which has some great fixes TBH).
• Kept the original Jabba's palace musical number. I hated that and the Special Edition one so excising both would have been better.
• Trimming the Obi-Wan/Luke convo led to losing the 'certain point of view' line that ties into the prequels. Also not confirming Leia as Luke's sister gives him no struggle to hide the truth from Vader.
• This causes another issue: When Luke and Leia reunite she asks him 'What is it?', to which he replies knowingly 'Ask me again sometime." With the earlier reveal to Luke cut it now doesn't make sense that it looks like he knows something.
• Han and Lando's goodbye scene is too short now. I know it's to omit some cheesy dialogue but it makes it odd with some dialogue over the pan-down and music, and ultimately almost feels unneeded since it's so brief.
• Some of Han's quips are cut short. It was good to lower the humor in the edit but these cuts felt a bit sudden.
• Removing Vader saying "Tell your sister... you were right". It was a nice line where Anakin returns to the light and acknowledges both of his children.
• Removing Luke reuniting with his friends after burning the body of Vader, panning up to the ships' fireworks, and see all the freedom across the galaxy.
• Removing Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Yoda's ghosts appearing at the end (either the Sebastian Shaw or Hayden Christensen versions). It gets rid of a touching moment where Anakin becomes one with The Force, and he and the other Jedi say goodbye to Luke and Leia.
What I would have done differently:
• Used a high def version of ROTJ's Special Edition, which has a sharper image with more vibrant colors.
• Had the updated scene of unmasking Vader with his eyebrows removed (he was burned on Mustafar).
• Replaced the original Yub Nub song kept in from the end of the theatrical cut with the orchestral John Williams song from the Special Edition. More dramatic and emotionally uplifting.
A great attempt with some solid fixes, but most of the changes weren't my cup of tea. Still, big props for making your vision of a ROTJ edit!
Do you recommend this edit?
Owner's replyFebruary 07, 2023
Reading this I realise there will definitely be a chuck of the Star Wars fanbase who will be displeased with this edit. I never kept the PT in mind when editing this because I saw them once in the cinemas and never looked back at them. I really dont know much about them besides the occasional 'hello there' meme. I'm one of those OT purists, which is why the source material was the theatrical 4k scan, which to me feels more authentic than any official release.
Problem with editing this movie, as other reviewers have pointed out is that any cut will be noticeable to fans, especially star wars fans who basically live and breathe these films.
For example: I am almost 100% sure if you show a first time viewer this they wont think the 'ask me again sometime' line is out of place at all. He is happy because he has family and a military briefing that's about to start is not the time nor the place.
One thing I strongly disagree is the cut where Obi wan reveals to luke who his sister is: In the original Obi Wan tells Luke to hide his feelings from Vader but he FIRST tells Luke he has a sister? That makes no sense. That means he knowingly puts Luke in danger. And then he doubles down and even confirms to Luke who she is, making matters even worse. In my edit he underestimates how strong this family bond is, which makes far more sense narratively.
Thank you for taking the time to write such an in depth review!
Another great work by DonkeyKonga! I have lost count to how many fanedits I have watched about Star Wars. The prequels were actually the ones that got me into the wonderful world of fanedits, but that's irrelevant.
My go-to version for this movie was/is (haven't decided yet) Darthrush's "Remastered" edit. He also dealt with the out of character Han Solo stuff, the Ewoks shenanigans, the Endor mess and some other details. So, as you can understand if you read DonkeyKonga's changes, I had some extra changes to enjoy that I actually agreed with. Like the plot with Luke gifting the androids and how this whole sequence takes place, more trimming of Ewoks, Vader staying in character etc.
I won't go into detail, I'll just say that this is definitely a very interesting and refreshing version for anyone who is not a complete purist. For any Star Wars fan, you can understand if you are going to like this edit by simply reading the basic changes that the editor mention in "fanedit information" or reading the more detailed one. And I'm saying this because technical wise is excellent, so only if you like the changes matter.
The only thing I realized I did not really enjoy, was the different ending. I prefer the original one. Also, I'm not sure how I feel about the way Luke just knows Leia is his sister. Especially the "ask me again sometime" line feels kind of out of place. I'm guessing the logic has something to do with the force etc., but still..
Finally, I have one little suggestion. When bounty hunter Leia goes to rescue Solo at night, we see her at first going down some stairs and hitting some kind of wind chimes. Leia is very smart, plus she is in an extremely important mission and I don't think she would do something so stupid like accidentally hitting some wind chimes in the dead of night where there is absolute silence. I'm not an editor, so I don't know if it can be removed, I'm just suggesting it.
Other than that, I definitely recommend this edit, there are not many editors who actually change stuff in the original trilogy, few dare to do that, so be sure to try it if you agree with the intentions of the editor.
Thank you once again DonkeyKonga for all your hard work and thanks to anyone who read my review!
Do you recommend this edit?
Owner's replySeptember 24, 2023
Thanks for the kind words. You do realise that in the original cut Luke also just knows Leia is his sister? He litterally says it out loud the moment he hears he has a sister in the original cut.
All I did was change it so that Luke keeps it to himself that he knows. :)