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So I couldn't stand Prometheus,
I hated how they apparently had a very simple story but then covered their tracks, cut out information and acted as if it was much more than was actually in the screenplay (sadly reminding me of Lost all over again).

What Giftbearer does is making things more clear - and less dumb.
I can't say I now like Prometheus now as a movie and while it is a much improved version I still wouldn't have been excited seeing this in cinemas.
The storyline is a very simple one and coming from Lost I tend to eyeroll whenever Lindelof adds stuff to make it seem as if there is more going on in this story.
BUT this version is much more honest about its intention.
While I still hate the entire idea of the angry engineer because Weyland thought of himself as a god at least it now is in the movie and clearly is the message of the film. The movie no longer pretends to be ambitious. it is a clear story about human greed and aliens being angry at us because of it.

There was one awkward use of the flashback to the engineer after Rapace's husband was killed but aside from that most of the rearranging worked just fine.

I still hate the complete disregard for biology (DNA 100% match) and some over the top characters but mostly this edition fixes many problems and presents Prometheus as the straightforward simple story that it was.

Congrats to the editor for a fantastic editing job and superb quality!

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I just recently watched this edit, and I have to say I didn’t see why everyone was giving it huge props.
Actually think most of the time people like something cause its new, but that doesn’t always make it good.
The opening is too long and boring, the Viral clips used where good yes, and I understand the inclusion of the TED video, which I liked, but the Noomi phone call video, wasn’t a good choice and it wasn’t ever suppose to be part of the movie, it was her screen test.
The title sequence was blah, and didn’t give credit to anyone not even the director Ridley Scott.
In your breakdown you explain why you took things out but some of it was like why? I don’t think you understood all the characters, like Weyland; for example: Weyland saying “What happens when we die.” Sure they didn’t find anything there that had to do with that, but Weyland was hoping they would, hence one of the reasons why they spent 11 trillion dollars to get out there.. But then you leave in the whole David looking at her dreams… Why? What point does that serve to the overall plot of the story, there's no big reveal to why this is important?
The inclusion of the deleted footage was good, and definitely builds the characters, but they looked so out of place, it was like watching a work print. They where all smoked over and green, didn’t look like they where colored at all, and every time one came on, it threw me right of the picture. I watched this with a friend and even he asked “Why does it look so different?”. The volume of those added sequences was off also by about 6db.
The dream / flash back sequence was just not for me, it just doesn’t progress the story any. In the beginning I was happy you got rid of those scene’s, but then you added them back in.. bored again…
The editing was good on the cuts though, and some of the audio work that you did was nice. Though in the Shaw vs Engineer scene you didn’t add any extra sound in that sequence except music so it felt a bit out of place, an again felt more like a work print.
I understand where you where going with this edit, and if your new to editing, then you did a good job with your cuts and some of your audio work, but when your adding clips that haven’t been mastered, you need to look at your levels and balance all the audio. Another thing you need to do is try your best to color correct the sequences to match the overall look of the film, premade filters don’t cut it. If you don’t know how to color correct, ask someone on the boards, or look up how to read Color Curves, CMY, RGB levels. And always remember pacing, stop; take a look at it; even if its good and you like it, pace it out and see how it feels, if your not sure, have a friend watch it, sometimes even if its good, it just doesn’t fit, or it doesn’t fit there.

Sorry...

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Owner's reply June 16, 2013

To answer your two questions about specific edits:

-- Removing Weyland's "what happens when we die" line - it's not just that the archeological find had nothing to do with this. My take on Weyland is that he's a materialist with zero belief in the afterlife. When he says David has no soul that is a just a rhetorical flourish to underline the areas where David's mimicing of human behavior is lacking. The TED speech that you find boring blatantly states Weyland's belief that through unfettered use of technology, humankind can conquer almost any problem. Through the use of technology, he says, "We are the gods now." So he has no interest in the spiritual or the afterlife, he does not want to see "what happens when we die", he instead wants to avoid death through technology and live forever, hoping the Engineers will gift him that. For Shaw to believe the Engineers may know something about "what happens when we die", as she says in her phone call pitch, makes sense since there is a spiritual side to the Engineer's mystery for her. For Weyland, it does not.

-- Including David watching Shaw's dream -- there is a theme throughout the movie of children with traumatic, or troubled, relations to the parents: Humanity --> Engineers, Vickers --> Weyland, David --> Weyland. This theme is introduced through Shaw's dream of her dad/mom (her relationship with them was good, unlike those other relationships, but they both died when she was young). This is also referenced by David's later statement to Shaw about watching her dreams and knowing about her father's death, which also, given its place in this edit, underlines that her vision of the Engineers she just had when out on the table is a dream.

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I just got finished watching this and this is quite an impressive firstling. It's been awhile since I've seen Prometheus so I don't remember a ton but I do remember not enjoying it! I guess I'm in the minority in that I didn't like the inclusion of the TED talk, but that's just me, I understand why you put it in though. And I can't say I liked the theatrical opening with the CGI guy and the waterfall creating life or whatever the hell was happening (again, i don't remember a lot from the theatrical version). This is definitely my replacement disc for Prometheus.

Nice work Severian! An excellent example of a faneditor turning a "meh" movie into an enjoyable one. I look forward to seeing more edits from you.

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Most everything I have to say has already been said, and probably better than I could put it, but here goes anyways!

I enjoyed Prometheus when it came out. It wasn't quite what I was expecting or what the trailers had promised, but I felt that it was better for it. It's easily one of my favorite movies, and when I saw that Severian had added some of the viral clips to the film, I was ecstatic, as adding Weyland's TED speech as the opening was something that I had in mind for doing a Prometheus edit. I think the inclusion of Shaw's video might have been a bit much, but hey, I enjoyed it anyways.

The placement of the Dune and Scott Free logos felt a bit odd, but I've seen other films that have their logos in the middle of the opening, too! There was really only one edit that I thought could have been executed better: in the briefing scene, I think that Shaw's line could have been edited to "I believe they engineered us." Maybe Severian tried that and it didn't work out, and that's okay!

The integration of deleted footage was great. There were a few times I didn't even notice that new footage had been added, and the times I did, I was glad that it was. The dream sequence was a tad...odd, but incredibly well edited. Like others, I didn't even realize some stuff was cut until I read the list again.

Great job, Severian! If a Blu-ray version of this becomes available, you can bet I will be downloading it.

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i enjoyed Prometheus sure it was flawed but i didn't find any part of the film boring and having seen it many times over the last year it's an entertaining film. my major criticism of the film that it follows the first in a trilogy route. for me i would rather have seen a more direct prequel to alien and have any sequels based off the idea of shaw and david going to the engineers home planet. as it is i feel we have half a story and as it stands right now no definite conformation that a follow up will ever be made.

severian fanedit plays out as more of an extended version of prometheus, most people that have seen the deleted footage would agree that it helps the film given that many of the scenes add to the characters motives / development. for a first time fanedit there is some great work to be seen here, the deleted scenes are inserted perfectly the scene between vickers and wayland with the added music is perfect. the line re-edit when vickers is talking to the crew for the first time is again done perfectly, without ever seeing the original film you wouldn't know it had been done. looking at the cut list after seeing the edit there are many things that had been cut that i didn't notice had been removed.

however i feel opening the edit with two viral shorts was a mistake, for me it felt the edit had two introductions and would have been better with just using one. the scott free and dune logos seemed a little out of place and a better font could have been used for the title. a longer film doesn't mean a better film and for me i would have liked the edit to have been a bit more bolder with it's cuts. i'm also not a fan of when editors include unfinished deleted scenes into there edits. though the unfinished scenes that have been included in severians fanedit would have improved the original film having them within this fanedit gives it a more work-print feel.

i also didn't understand the editors intent with the inclusion of the cave scene / sacrifice scene. as we go into the films final act we have what i presume to be a flahback scene. while is nicely done it grinds the story to halt and doesn't show us the viewer anything that we already know. a better sequence would have maybe to move the sex scene between shaw and holloway to this part given that it would have been shaws last good memory of them being together plus it ties in with whats about to happen to her.

i never subscribe to the idea that a fanedit replaces the original for me a good fanedit should offer those wanting to re-watch a film there familer with a solid alternative. and this fanedit doe's just that, severian has shown that he's a faneditor with whom you'd watch out for in the future with any edits he maybe working on.

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