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I just wanted to thank Severian for this terrific viewing experience. I loved Prometheus from the get go, and didn't really think it needed a fan edit, but curiosity got the better of me, and I'm glad it did.

The new intro that adds in the Ted Talk was genius. I honestly don't know why it wasn't in the film; it adds so much context to Weyland's motivation. Its this addition and the addition/changing of a few other key scenes that has me agreeing with Severian that Weyland's motivation is purely materialistic in nature. Its through that context, seeing the contrast between Weyland and Shaw's faith and lack thereof that makes the film far more interesting to me. It just adds another layer.

And I'm reading a lot of people taking umbrage with the readdition of the Engineer scene, and the addition of the Scotland scene as dreams. I thought this too was brilliant editing. The death of Holloway has a number of links to these scenes that just make sense in this edit. Not only does it demonstrate Holloway and Shaw's deep connection to one another, its the discovery in the cave that eventually leads to Holloway's death. Placing the cave discovery here makes us wonder if Shaw feels guilt about Holloway's death, and perhaps its because of that guilt she allows the cross to leave her neck. Its an interesting idea.

In the other flashback we see the Engineer dieing in the same tragic way as Holloway does. The swallowing of the black goo and the Engineer's death brings about life, and in a twisted way the same is true of Holloway. But more importantly, the creation of life via the Engineer's death is left vague because its not really a flashback, it's now a dream. This addresses one of the big issues I read online by people who dislike Prometheus. A number of people have a hard time suspending disbelief, and feel that this scene can not be representative of reality. Now they can put that argument to rest because it didn't really happen.

Anyways, this is probably one of my top 5 Fan Edits of all time. Highly recommended!

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So I couldn't stand Prometheus,
I hated how they apparently had a very simple story but then covered their tracks, cut out information and acted as if it was much more than was actually in the screenplay (sadly reminding me of Lost all over again).

What Giftbearer does is making things more clear - and less dumb.
I can't say I now like Prometheus now as a movie and while it is a much improved version I still wouldn't have been excited seeing this in cinemas.
The storyline is a very simple one and coming from Lost I tend to eyeroll whenever Lindelof adds stuff to make it seem as if there is more going on in this story.
BUT this version is much more honest about its intention.
While I still hate the entire idea of the angry engineer because Weyland thought of himself as a god at least it now is in the movie and clearly is the message of the film. The movie no longer pretends to be ambitious. it is a clear story about human greed and aliens being angry at us because of it.

There was one awkward use of the flashback to the engineer after Rapace's husband was killed but aside from that most of the rearranging worked just fine.

I still hate the complete disregard for biology (DNA 100% match) and some over the top characters but mostly this edition fixes many problems and presents Prometheus as the straightforward simple story that it was.

Congrats to the editor for a fantastic editing job and superb quality!

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I just recently watched this edit, and I have to say I didn’t see why everyone was giving it huge props.
Actually think most of the time people like something cause its new, but that doesn’t always make it good.
The opening is too long and boring, the Viral clips used where good yes, and I understand the inclusion of the TED video, which I liked, but the Noomi phone call video, wasn’t a good choice and it wasn’t ever suppose to be part of the movie, it was her screen test.
The title sequence was blah, and didn’t give credit to anyone not even the director Ridley Scott.
In your breakdown you explain why you took things out but some of it was like why? I don’t think you understood all the characters, like Weyland; for example: Weyland saying “What happens when we die.” Sure they didn’t find anything there that had to do with that, but Weyland was hoping they would, hence one of the reasons why they spent 11 trillion dollars to get out there.. But then you leave in the whole David looking at her dreams… Why? What point does that serve to the overall plot of the story, there's no big reveal to why this is important?
The inclusion of the deleted footage was good, and definitely builds the characters, but they looked so out of place, it was like watching a work print. They where all smoked over and green, didn’t look like they where colored at all, and every time one came on, it threw me right of the picture. I watched this with a friend and even he asked “Why does it look so different?”. The volume of those added sequences was off also by about 6db.
The dream / flash back sequence was just not for me, it just doesn’t progress the story any. In the beginning I was happy you got rid of those scene’s, but then you added them back in.. bored again…
The editing was good on the cuts though, and some of the audio work that you did was nice. Though in the Shaw vs Engineer scene you didn’t add any extra sound in that sequence except music so it felt a bit out of place, an again felt more like a work print.
I understand where you where going with this edit, and if your new to editing, then you did a good job with your cuts and some of your audio work, but when your adding clips that haven’t been mastered, you need to look at your levels and balance all the audio. Another thing you need to do is try your best to color correct the sequences to match the overall look of the film, premade filters don’t cut it. If you don’t know how to color correct, ask someone on the boards, or look up how to read Color Curves, CMY, RGB levels. And always remember pacing, stop; take a look at it; even if its good and you like it, pace it out and see how it feels, if your not sure, have a friend watch it, sometimes even if its good, it just doesn’t fit, or it doesn’t fit there.

Sorry...

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Owner's reply June 16, 2013

To answer your two questions about specific edits:

-- Removing Weyland's "what happens when we die" line - it's not just that the archeological find had nothing to do with this. My take on Weyland is that he's a materialist with zero belief in the afterlife. When he says David has no soul that is a just a rhetorical flourish to underline the areas where David's mimicing of human behavior is lacking. The TED speech that you find boring blatantly states Weyland's belief that through unfettered use of technology, humankind can conquer almost any problem. Through the use of technology, he says, "We are the gods now." So he has no interest in the spiritual or the afterlife, he does not want to see "what happens when we die", he instead wants to avoid death through technology and live forever, hoping the Engineers will gift him that. For Shaw to believe the Engineers may know something about "what happens when we die", as she says in her phone call pitch, makes sense since there is a spiritual side to the Engineer's mystery for her. For Weyland, it does not.

-- Including David watching Shaw's dream -- there is a theme throughout the movie of children with traumatic, or troubled, relations to the parents: Humanity --> Engineers, Vickers --> Weyland, David --> Weyland. This theme is introduced through Shaw's dream of her dad/mom (her relationship with them was good, unlike those other relationships, but they both died when she was young). This is also referenced by David's later statement to Shaw about watching her dreams and knowing about her father's death, which also, given its place in this edit, underlines that her vision of the Engineers she just had when out on the table is a dream.

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I just got finished watching this and this is quite an impressive firstling. It's been awhile since I've seen Prometheus so I don't remember a ton but I do remember not enjoying it! I guess I'm in the minority in that I didn't like the inclusion of the TED talk, but that's just me, I understand why you put it in though. And I can't say I liked the theatrical opening with the CGI guy and the waterfall creating life or whatever the hell was happening (again, i don't remember a lot from the theatrical version). This is definitely my replacement disc for Prometheus.

Nice work Severian! An excellent example of a faneditor turning a "meh" movie into an enjoyable one. I look forward to seeing more edits from you.

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Most everything I have to say has already been said, and probably better than I could put it, but here goes anyways!

I enjoyed Prometheus when it came out. It wasn't quite what I was expecting or what the trailers had promised, but I felt that it was better for it. It's easily one of my favorite movies, and when I saw that Severian had added some of the viral clips to the film, I was ecstatic, as adding Weyland's TED speech as the opening was something that I had in mind for doing a Prometheus edit. I think the inclusion of Shaw's video might have been a bit much, but hey, I enjoyed it anyways.

The placement of the Dune and Scott Free logos felt a bit odd, but I've seen other films that have their logos in the middle of the opening, too! There was really only one edit that I thought could have been executed better: in the briefing scene, I think that Shaw's line could have been edited to "I believe they engineered us." Maybe Severian tried that and it didn't work out, and that's okay!

The integration of deleted footage was great. There were a few times I didn't even notice that new footage had been added, and the times I did, I was glad that it was. The dream sequence was a tad...odd, but incredibly well edited. Like others, I didn't even realize some stuff was cut until I read the list again.

Great job, Severian! If a Blu-ray version of this becomes available, you can bet I will be downloading it.

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