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Joker: The Multiple Choice Recut
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Original Release Date:
2019
Original Running Time:
116
Fanedit Release Date:
Fanedit Running Time:
99
Time Cut:
17
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Brief Synopsis:
This edit retells the story of Joker in four parts and leans into the unreliable nature of the character.
Intention:
Joker was an interesting film that was largely inspired by The King of Comedy and Taxi Driver by Scorsese - two great films I highly recommend you go watch - but I thought it'd be interesting to rework it so that it followed a more ambiguous route - after all, the Joker's backstory has always been a mystery and reworking the film in this way keeps it as such.
Release Information:
Digital
Editing Details:
Scenes were rearranged into four different arcs.
1. I Have A Condition - Follows Arthur's mental condition, the shootings on the train that result from it, and the subsequent clown-related protests.
2. Clowning Around - Follows Arthur's party clown career and the trouble he runs into after buying a gun.
3. Happy - Follows Arthur's difficult financial situation and his relationship with his mother.
4. That's Life - Follows Arthur's stand up career and his interest in Murray's show.
The character of Sophie (and the subplot relating to her) was almost completely cut, save for a few brief appearances. The asylum scene from the end was split up and used at the end of each arc, in order to imply Arthur is telling these stories to the prison psychiatrist. Some overlap between the arcs was inevitable - I mostly let this be as it feeds into the unreliable narrator aspect of the story.
1. I Have A Condition - Follows Arthur's mental condition, the shootings on the train that result from it, and the subsequent clown-related protests.
2. Clowning Around - Follows Arthur's party clown career and the trouble he runs into after buying a gun.
3. Happy - Follows Arthur's difficult financial situation and his relationship with his mother.
4. That's Life - Follows Arthur's stand up career and his interest in Murray's show.
The character of Sophie (and the subplot relating to her) was almost completely cut, save for a few brief appearances. The asylum scene from the end was split up and used at the end of each arc, in order to imply Arthur is telling these stories to the prison psychiatrist. Some overlap between the arcs was inevitable - I mostly let this be as it feeds into the unreliable narrator aspect of the story.
Cuts and Additions:
1st arc - I Have A Condition:
Cut Arthur on the bus with the kid. Although this scene provides exposition, I thought it best to leave Arthur's condition be ambigious, plus there is a clash here as the very next scene is Arthur on a train - didn't want to go from a bus scene to a train screne.
Trimmed scene where Arthur and Sophie see the poster so that they are not walking together, she is just a random person who talks to Arthur.
Cut shots of Arthur at the first protest, as the next scene is him going out in clown makeup and running into protesters on the train.
2nd arc - Clowning Around:
Cut Arthur playing with the gun and accidently firing it.
Cut mention of the train killings as Arthur clears out of work.
3rd arc - Happy:
Cut Sophie from the scene where Arthur is at hospital.
4th arc - That's Life:
Cut Arthur meeting Sophie, stalking her, inviting her to his standup, their relationship, her at the standup, Arthur entering her apartment. Reason: her presence had no relevance to any of the four arcs, felt like a Fight Club-inspired idea that was tacked on.
Cut shot in asylum implying Arthur is laughing at Thomas' murder.
Cut Arthur on the bus with the kid. Although this scene provides exposition, I thought it best to leave Arthur's condition be ambigious, plus there is a clash here as the very next scene is Arthur on a train - didn't want to go from a bus scene to a train screne.
Trimmed scene where Arthur and Sophie see the poster so that they are not walking together, she is just a random person who talks to Arthur.
Cut shots of Arthur at the first protest, as the next scene is him going out in clown makeup and running into protesters on the train.
2nd arc - Clowning Around:
Cut Arthur playing with the gun and accidently firing it.
Cut mention of the train killings as Arthur clears out of work.
3rd arc - Happy:
Cut Sophie from the scene where Arthur is at hospital.
4th arc - That's Life:
Cut Arthur meeting Sophie, stalking her, inviting her to his standup, their relationship, her at the standup, Arthur entering her apartment. Reason: her presence had no relevance to any of the four arcs, felt like a Fight Club-inspired idea that was tacked on.
Cut shot in asylum implying Arthur is laughing at Thomas' murder.
User reviews
8 reviews
Overall rating
9.7
Audio/Video Quality
9.9(8)
Visual Editing
9.5(8)
Audio Editing
9.8(8)
Narrative
9.6(8)
Enjoyment
9.6(8)
Overall rating
10.0
Audio/Video Quality
10.0
Visual Editing
10.0
Audio Editing
10.0
Narrative
10.0
Enjoyment
10.0
I was a bit confused as to the order of things but instead of questioning how the original order was i just accepted the ride. GReat cut. It turned another origin super hero story into a full pyschological film - kinda reminds me of taxi driver. I remember in theaters thinking "everyone is gonna keep picking on him until he goes crazy " With this cut i am now very excited for the sequel!
User Review
Format Watched?
Digital
K
Overall rating
9.0
Audio/Video Quality
9.0
Visual Editing
9.0
Audio Editing
9.0
Narrative
9.0
Enjoyment
9.0
Maybe Spoilers ahead !
I have to start by saying that i personally find the Cinema Cut exceptional and the Movie is in my Top Films for eternety.
So i was really looking forward, to see this (what i think is a brilliant film) put together in a new and different style.
It worked very well.
The 4 Part Storyline is a great choice to get into it all - but here i have to say
i was a bit putt off by the Titles rolling in later as part two came around it seemed missplaced, but thats just me.
The narrative is driven and unreliable as it should be.
IN the end we all dont know what made him The Joker.
What is his origin and what part of his lies we fell in.
To exclude the neighbour was a good choice, again, it is a different view and spin and the so called Love interest wouldnt work.
Scenes are not "missing" and the whole Film was very enjoyable to view.
Thx for this great work.
I have to start by saying that i personally find the Cinema Cut exceptional and the Movie is in my Top Films for eternety.
So i was really looking forward, to see this (what i think is a brilliant film) put together in a new and different style.
It worked very well.
The 4 Part Storyline is a great choice to get into it all - but here i have to say
i was a bit putt off by the Titles rolling in later as part two came around it seemed missplaced, but thats just me.
The narrative is driven and unreliable as it should be.
IN the end we all dont know what made him The Joker.
What is his origin and what part of his lies we fell in.
To exclude the neighbour was a good choice, again, it is a different view and spin and the so called Love interest wouldnt work.
Scenes are not "missing" and the whole Film was very enjoyable to view.
Thx for this great work.
User Review
Do you recommend this edit?
Yes
Format Watched?
Digital
V
Overall rating
9.2
Audio/Video Quality
10.0
Visual Editing
10.0
Audio Editing
9.0
Narrative
9.0
Enjoyment
9.0
A great alternate way to watch the Joker movie - it feels like short, focused narratives rather than the multiple plotlines interwoven in the original, and for me, it especially hit hard with the mother relationship section, feeling even darker than the original by putting it all together.
Great work, a couple audio transitions hit a little bold for me but nothing distracting and up to personal tastes. Lots of great planning work must have been done to "mix" up how to retell a story by "unmixing" things, bravo. A worthy FEOTM winner, showing what this great hobby is capable of in fresh, new ways.
Great work, a couple audio transitions hit a little bold for me but nothing distracting and up to personal tastes. Lots of great planning work must have been done to "mix" up how to retell a story by "unmixing" things, bravo. A worthy FEOTM winner, showing what this great hobby is capable of in fresh, new ways.
User Review
Format Watched?
Digital
W
Overall rating
9.9
Audio/Video Quality
10.0
Visual Editing
9.0
Audio Editing
10.0
Narrative
10.0
Enjoyment
10.0
Excellent alternative to the movie. I love how you managed to split the film into 4 separate stories, each one is a self-contained plausible origin story for the Joker, and yet, it still forming a coherent whole. It works perfectly since Arthur is an unreliable narrator, so maybe the truth is hiding between two lies.
User Review
Do you recommend this edit?
Yes
Format Watched?
Digital
D
Overall rating
9.9
Audio/Video Quality
10.0
Visual Editing
9.0
Audio Editing
10.0
Narrative
10.0
Enjoyment
10.0
An impressive feat of narrative restructuring, I was totally engaged by this edit. It evokes a more art house vibe, one that works exceptionally well with Phoenix's nuanced performance and complements the camerawork and direction of the film generally.
The framing of Arthur's internal and external stresses in individual subplots gives each a fair weight and plausibility, and the material that is cut isn't missed. The reveal of events is skillfully ordered, I was never thrown out of the narrative. Heavisyde pulls this off masterfully.
The only place where this version shows its fanedit nature is where the opening titles unexpectedly roll in the beginning of the second sequence, but that's such a nitpick in the scope of what this edit achieves.
Highly recommended.
The framing of Arthur's internal and external stresses in individual subplots gives each a fair weight and plausibility, and the material that is cut isn't missed. The reveal of events is skillfully ordered, I was never thrown out of the narrative. Heavisyde pulls this off masterfully.
The only place where this version shows its fanedit nature is where the opening titles unexpectedly roll in the beginning of the second sequence, but that's such a nitpick in the scope of what this edit achieves.
Highly recommended.
User Review
Do you recommend this edit?
Yes
Format Watched?
Digital
H