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Jason and the Agnostics: Super Cut
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Original Movie Title:
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Original Release Date:
1963
Original Running Time:
104
Fanedit Release Date:
Fanedit Running Time:
65
Time Cut:
38
Time Added:
1
Subtitles Available?
Available in HD?
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Brief Synopsis:
Using my B+ Movie Edition as a foundation (including animation enhancements), this cut completely removes the Olympus scenes, as well as any explicit reference to the gods' interference. This, alongside a few more liberal trims, allows for an action-focused cut for when you just want to blitz through the film, cut to the chase and enjoy a fast-paced adventure.
Intention:
With my B+ Movie Editions, I have certain lines that I will not cross, since I try to achieve my goals without making drastic cuts to the narrative, rarely removing dialogue or cutting shots completely. In that sense, the B+ cut for Jason is a 'purist' version where I compromised on a lot of personal preference, chief of which was retaining the scenes with the gods. They serve a purpose, but I don't think they're very well executed and they slow down the action considerably. So this is 'agnostic' because I'm removing their explicit existence from the equation (feel free to draw your own conclusions as to why we still have mythological monsters) and 'super' because even more trims for pacing have been made, clocking the entire film in at barely over an hour - nearly 40 minutes shorter than the theatrical cut.
Additional Notes:
This is a significantly more liberal alternate version of my B+ movie Edition. I recommend that cut for purists, and a much more comprehensive cutlist can be found on its IFDB page for what is not mentioned here (timecodes there will not be accurate for this edit): https://ifdb.fanedit.org/jason-and-the-argonauts-b-movie-edition/
Other Sources:
Freesound.org
Special Thanks:
- Extra special thanks to Boredat3am and Dwight Fry for volunteering to preview the initial version and for their feedback. And thank you again to Dwight Fry for their suggested alterations; the ending shot particularly has been significantly improved with the closing kiss retained.
- Dwight Fry for their suggestions for improving the comic book poster aesthetic. Thanks to DigModiFication as well for providing some pre-made elements for me to make use of.
- My friend Joebby for proofing the very final draft.
- Dwight Fry for their suggestions for improving the comic book poster aesthetic. Thanks to DigModiFication as well for providing some pre-made elements for me to make use of.
- My friend Joebby for proofing the very final draft.
Release Information:
Digital
Special Features
- subtitles
Cuts and Additions:
THE GIST:
- All cuts made (or not made) are on top of ones already made for the B+ Movie Edition (including animation enhancements). So please see the IFDB entry for that for further context
- Explicit interference from what appear to be gods is removed (Hera does speak to Pelias in the temple, for example, but we do not witness her vanish like a ghost; Jason can be seen from afar to be talking to the Hera statue, but we do not hear their exchange or anything that would imply she talks back). All shots of Hermes during Jason's speech at Pelias' camp are also cut and Jason does not interact with him at all. We do see Triton, but there is nothing that explicitly states who/what he is.
- Additional trims to opening prophecy
- Further trims to the attack on the temple
- Further trims to dance at Pelias' camp
- Trimmed Jason and Pelias' conversation
- Further trims to Jason's conversation with the ship builder
- Further trims to ship travel montages
- Further trims to Talos
- Jason and Hercules conversation regarding Hylas is paced slightly differently
- Further trims to Harpies
- Further trims to clashing rocks segment
- Cut Medea's dance (cool tango, sis. Needs more dragons though)
- Medea's temple speech is trimmed and events are in a different order. She says Jason is here, the king tells him to come forward, then Jason makes his way out of the crowd.
- Trimmed prison break
- Hydra is more or less the same as in the B+ cut
- King Aeetes calls on his god to deliver him the children of the hydra, but we do not see fire fall from the sky and burn up the Hydra corpse
- The sowing of the Hydra's teeth is recut slightly differently
- Skeleton scenes are the same as in the B+ cut
- General small trims here and there across the film to help maintain consistency with the pacing. Some shots cut, moved or swapped on occasion.
- New ending shot to cover absence of Olympus scene (thanks to Dwight Fry for a suggestion on how to retain the kiss)
- All cuts made (or not made) are on top of ones already made for the B+ Movie Edition (including animation enhancements). So please see the IFDB entry for that for further context
- Explicit interference from what appear to be gods is removed (Hera does speak to Pelias in the temple, for example, but we do not witness her vanish like a ghost; Jason can be seen from afar to be talking to the Hera statue, but we do not hear their exchange or anything that would imply she talks back). All shots of Hermes during Jason's speech at Pelias' camp are also cut and Jason does not interact with him at all. We do see Triton, but there is nothing that explicitly states who/what he is.
- Additional trims to opening prophecy
- Further trims to the attack on the temple
- Further trims to dance at Pelias' camp
- Trimmed Jason and Pelias' conversation
- Further trims to Jason's conversation with the ship builder
- Further trims to ship travel montages
- Further trims to Talos
- Jason and Hercules conversation regarding Hylas is paced slightly differently
- Further trims to Harpies
- Further trims to clashing rocks segment
- Cut Medea's dance (cool tango, sis. Needs more dragons though)
- Medea's temple speech is trimmed and events are in a different order. She says Jason is here, the king tells him to come forward, then Jason makes his way out of the crowd.
- Trimmed prison break
- Hydra is more or less the same as in the B+ cut
- King Aeetes calls on his god to deliver him the children of the hydra, but we do not see fire fall from the sky and burn up the Hydra corpse
- The sowing of the Hydra's teeth is recut slightly differently
- Skeleton scenes are the same as in the B+ cut
- General small trims here and there across the film to help maintain consistency with the pacing. Some shots cut, moved or swapped on occasion.
- New ending shot to cover absence of Olympus scene (thanks to Dwight Fry for a suggestion on how to retain the kiss)
User reviews
4 reviews
Overall rating
9.8
Audio/Video Quality
10.0(4)
Audio Editing
10.0(4)
Visual Editing
10.0(4)
Narrative
9.3(4)
Enjoyment
9.5(4)
Overall rating
10.0
Audio/Video Quality
10.0
Audio Editing
10.0
Visual Editing
10.0
Narrative
10.0
Enjoyment
10.0
This AGNOSTIC CUT gets my vote! Quite hilarious in many respects. Quite horrific in many others. I'd say this earns this the Dramatic Greek trophy. Lets hope there are more of the Sunday afternoon beauties to come!!
User Review
Do you recommend this edit?
Yes
Format Watched?
Digital
M
Overall rating
10.0
Audio/Video Quality
10.0
Audio Editing
10.0
Visual Editing
10.0
Narrative
10.0
Enjoyment
10.0
When I saw there was an edit of this movie I asked for it downloaded it and watched it. What can I say I first saw this when I was a kid enjoyed it then and enjoy it more now. I always remember the Haryyhausen stop action animation, especially the fight with the skeletons. And I get the feeling this movie was filmed in English dubbed to something else and then the English put back. So to me it always seems to be a bit off in that way. I watched both edits, nothing negative to say, remember no techie here. I have enjoyed other edits be Scribbling and enjoy this one as well. Either POV on this title he keeps the fun in it. I might just have to re watch them again today. On my popcorn scale these get a 4.5 outta 5. I'll just sit back and wait to see what title Scribbling offers next
User Review
Do you recommend this edit?
Yes
Format Watched?
Digital
G
Overall rating
9.4
Audio/Video Quality
10.0
Audio Editing
10.0
Visual Editing
10.0
Narrative
8.0
Enjoyment
9.0
If you have fond memories of Jason and the Argonauts and want to see a version that cuts to the chase and gets straight to the good bits while still being a functional film rather than a glorified clipshow, this super-cut is exactly what you're looking for.
I did not miss the gods in the slightest. I doubt you will either.
I did not miss the gods in the slightest. I doubt you will either.
User Review
Do you recommend this edit?
Yes
Format Watched?
Digital
B
Overall rating
9.6
Audio/Video Quality
10.0
Audio Editing
10.0
Visual Editing
10.0
Narrative
9.0
Enjoyment
9.0
I consider The Scribbling Man's previous edit of this film, the B+ Movie Cut, to be the definitive version of this Harryhausen classic. So this newer attempt is not something that will change my mind since I miss quite a bit of what was cut from the narrative, namely the living figurehead and Hera's five instances of help, but still, this was fun. Truncated as it may be, it now has acquired the flavor of a matinee showing, maybe as part of a double feature with some other sword and sandal flick. The brisk pacing does help to sell that sensation: this one does indeed move fast, and before you realize it, it's over. Grab your popcorn and enjoy the ride, just don't expect much help from the gods this time around!
D