Indiana Jones and The Temple of Doom: Willie Scott Edition

Indiana Jones and The Temple of Doom: Willie Scott Edition

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Indiana Jones and The Temple of Doom: Willie Scott Edition
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Less whining and fewer dated special effects.
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Original Release Date:
1984
Original Running Time:
118
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112
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6
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Brief Synopsis:
If adventure has a name, it must be Indiana Jones! Join Indy, his young sidekick Short Round, and famous American vocalist Willie Scott, on a quest for fortune and glory.
Indiana Jones and The Temple of Doom is our hero’s darkest adventure. After finding the remains of an ancient Chinese Emperor, Indy travels from China to India. There he risks his life, and soul, to recover a holy relic from the deadly cult of Kali worshipers.

The Willie Scott edition is a fanedit with a stronger female lead (removing excessive screaming and whining) and fewer distractions that pull the viewer out of the story (removing badly-dated special effects). Care was taken to cut as little as possible to achieve these goals. Where possible, excessive screams were silenced without cutting frames.
Intention:
Temple of Doom was the first Indiana Jones I saw in the cinema, and it's always kept a special place. Years later I understood the flaws and excessive darkness compared to Raiders and Last Crusade. I hoped that someone would find a way to improve it. Fast forward to the present, and here then is my attempt to make this a better Indiana Jones movie. Making Willie Scott less annoying and minimizing the most grating dated special effects is all that's needed. Where possible, excessive screams were silenced without cutting frames.
Special Thanks:
Thanks to The Scribbling Man for his clear, thorough and enthusiastic review, Plissken1138 for helping make the cover better, InfoDroid for the old but informative thread on his version, everyone who shared thoughts for improvement, and all the outstanding editors for setting the bar so high.
Release Information
AVI/MKV
Special Features
- Video: 1080p MKV
- Audio: AC3 5.1
- Subtitles: Yes (English, not hard-coded)
Cuts and Additions:
- Retained full Cole Porter song. I tried cutting the glittering dream sequence, but didn't like the opening's pacing with that gone.
- Cut Willie's unfunny line about Nurhachi being a "real small guy".
- Reduced Willie's screaming as they fall through the canopies outside the Obi-Wan Club.
- Cut Short Round's line "This is fun". It felt wrong while they're being chased and shot at.
- Willie does not lose Indy's gun during the car chase, nor complains about a cracked nail.
- Removed the pilot's snickering as he leaves the plane.
- Reduced Willie's screaming as they get ready to jump out of the airplane.
- Faded Willie's scream after they jump out of the plane.
- Cut 3 brief poorly-done green-screen shots as the raft goes down the mountain.
-‎ The raft falls into the river from a short cliff. One gravity-defying leap is enough.
- ‎Smoother transition onto the shaman.
- Reduced Willie's whining when they mount the elephants.
- Short Round calls his elephant "best friend" once, not twice.
- Willie does not scream at the jungle nightlife, letting us focus on Indy and Short Round's poker game. This scene helps establish the strength of their bond, making Indy's momentary betrayal and subsequent redemption in the temple all the more heart-wrenching.
-‎ Cut comments about the flying foxes. They are not vampire bats.
- The dinner scene is reduced. No eyeball soup, and fewer shocked responses from Willie and Short Round. The monkey brains are retained because they're too iconic to remove (viewers would miss them).
- Small trim to Indy getting strangled in his room.
-‎ Small trim to Willie offering herself to Indy.
- No distracting dead bodies pop out in the secret passage. Perhaps use it for a Goonies edit, not here.
- Cut Willie pushing on the statue's breasts. There was no point, she already had a door open.
- Trimmed Willie's panic over the bugs. No more whining over her nails.
-‎ Cut the obviously fake cave between the trap-room and the temple.
- Cut the brief shot of Mola Ram's hand entering the Thuggee victim chest. What a lousy "special" effect! Now the heart-ripping scene plays the same as UK censors required it.
-‎ Reduced the weakest effect shots in and of the lava pit.
-‎ Slight trim to Indy being forced to drink Kali's blood.
- Reduced some of Willie's screaming as she's lowered into the pit. Again remove the least successful effects shots in and of the lava pit. Including fireball licking toward Willie.
- Cut lackey getting konked on the head with sledgehammer ala Looney Tunes.
-‎ Cut worst stop-motion shots from mine-car chase. Cut worst fake-lava too.
-‎ Trimmed bad guys falling to the crocodiles, to remove worst special effects.
- Lots of audio transitions were reworked to keep the flow of the beat of John Williams' wonderful score. (The sacrifice scene in the temple was frustrating because the tempo kept accelerating, making it harder to hide cuts!).
-‎ Added FE logos at start and end.
-‎ Updated the English subtitles (not hard-coded).
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(Updated: May 01, 2019)
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I always thought TOD was the weakest Indy movie.

I considered this to be true even after Kingdom of the Crystal Skull was released. Crystal Skull suffered from a lot of issues that affect modern cinema, but TOD was always bad. Different kinds of bads.

NJVC fixed Crystal Skull, changing the movie into something I can easily enjoy, Raiders of the Lost Skull.

TOD was something I never found really fixed...until now. I thought it was a pity, since it had some inspiring moments, and a young Indiana Jones, in a different, dark adventure.

I always thought it was because of including the kids in the story and the difficulty to film something realistic with so many kids... I thought that there was something not letting things work there.

But then I saw this release and watched it. What a big surprise. How Willie Scott was protrayed in the movie was the main lackluster... fixing Willie revives the film in so many ways!
Pace is better, character development and depth feels better, the story feels more real and natural....
This edit has left me with "my" go-to version of TOD. At last a version I can easily rewatch!

lapis did it for me. A version of the movie I can enjoy, despite its flaws (in the original movie).

This could be somehow considered a "feminist" edit, in the best meaning of the word possible and I cannot do anything else but strongly recommend its viewing.

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I like Temple of Doom. For a long time it was my favorite Indiana Jones film. Today, it would probably be The Last Crusade. I don't really bother ranking them as they are all great. However, there's no denying - Willie Scott was annoying and very forgettable female sidekick. By making those little, yet so effective, trims to her character the movie improves ten fold.

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I have been meaning to check this edit out for a while and finally got around to it. I think this second installment is often overly maligned. Yes, the love interest and sidekick can be annoying. Yes, some of effects are wonky by today's standards. But I like the idea of it more than Last Crusade, which I felt was more of a retread. I think an occult cult is a good bad guy for an Indiana Jones story. And I like the setpieces in this one better than Crusade. That said, Willie Scott was always an annoying character. This edit does a good job of minimizing that. But she still comes off as someone you struggle to see what Jones sees in her other than looks. Another misstep in this entry was thinking that kids needed an avatar of themselves to relate to. Short Round is not a good character and it has become worse with time. I wouldn't mind seeing Temple of Doom: the Willie Scott and Short Round Edition that gives the same treatment to Short Round that this edit gave to Willie Scott. I had to watch this by using Screen Mirroring to my Apple TV. So while there were some glitches in my viewing experience, I am almost certain that was due to the Mirroring so I'm not taking off nay points there. As someone who doesn't hate Doom as much as many others, I thought this was a good improvement. But I'd still like it to have gone further, particularly with regards to Short Round.

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(Updated: December 16, 2018)
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Like many others I think Temple of Doom is the worst of the original Indy movies. It's still a good movie but Willie Scott is a decent character at best and the movie is just so dark toned at times. Well this one didn't make the movie more cheerful but Willie got an improvement. I never really minded the outdated special effects but this one got rid of many as well which is nice.

I enjoyed this one quite a bit and Willie was a better character this time around. I don't think it's THE Temple of Doom edition for me but it's still a small improvement to already a good movie.

A few audio editing "glitches" slighty stood out but nothing major. Visual editing was good.

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I'm not a fan of TOD, though I was when I was a kid as it was the first one I saw in the cinema. I prefer the other 2 or 3 nowadays depending on the cut. But here you do have Indy in his prime, the lighting, cinematography, music, stop motion FX and set pieces that are fantastic viewing in isolation to the whole. But Willie Scott is simply the dip shit incarnation of superficial hypergamy. So although this franchise is pretty schlocky, her character is just an exasperating presence that always has me wanting turn the bloody thing off. Not blaming Capshaw necessarily as those putting her in there to begin with were deluded.

That said, Lapis has improved the effect of Scott's interference in the film to quite some degree, especially with Indy and Short Round's friendship and the card game scene that others here have rightly commended. "Hey lady, you call him Dr Jones" - Short Round always did have her number.

I'm not sure some of the grotesque or icky visuals taken out wouldn't have justified their inclusion in spite of annoying Scott reaction shots, because at least there were revolting contexts to tolerate her for. Plus some of the dodgy FX could have survived as some optical composites you can forgive or have them tarted up a little, as it did feel like watching a censored TV broadcast at times. The inflatable raft sequence trims and Roller-coal-cart trims really did smooth things out very nicely. The back end of the film played out very well indeed and I'm sure there were other less explicit edits that benefit the flow along the way.

Scott will never be a strong female character, but this is the best you'll get from her.

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