Hulk: Struggle For Control

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Banner wants rid of it. Ross wants it. During their tug-of-war over Banner's DNA, the Hulk protects Betty and fights Ross' abominable experiment. In the end Banner realizes that if he can't get rid of it, he must learn to control it. VERSION2: 1080p.
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Original Release Date:
2008
Original Running Time:
112
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Fanedit Running Time:
114
Time Cut:
14
Time Added:
16
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Available in HD?
Brief Synopsis:
The Incredible Hulk: Struggle for Control aims to fit better in the MCU. Informative exposition from the deleted scenes is added, while trimmed for pacing. It shows more of Banner and Ross' motivations, less Betty, less close-up CGI Hulk, more Doc Samson, and more SHIELD:
- Several deleted scenes are added (back) in that add depth to Banner and Ross' characters and makes their motivations clearer. E.g. Banner trying to shoot himself in the opening scene, and Ross saying "He wants to get rid of it. [...] I want what's inside of him."
- Betty in Hulk (2003) was a plausible scientist working with genius Bruce, who showed a strength of character consistent with the comics. Disappointingly, 2008 Betty shows neither. Betty's aspirated one-or-two word lines while staring in the middle distance, suggest that she's constantly at a loss for what to do or think. She is trimmed to look less clueless.
- The CGI is frustrating. The Hulk's steroids-ripped body looks less real than Hulk 2003 and repeatedly fails to inhabit the space it's in. The close-ups look the weakest. They got trims when their bodies failed to convince.
- Fleshing out Doc Samson's character helps to flesh out both Bruce and Betty's. Also, I find the perspective interesting to see how an ordinary human responds when a super-powered person enters his life.
- SHIELD's presence reaffirms the continuity within the MCU. Added to their minor mention in the film is Marvel's One-Shot "The Consultant" as post-credit scene.
Intention:
The Incredible Hulk (2008) plays like a double episode from the 1978 Hulk TV-series. In part 1 “Bottled Up” Banner searches for a cure while hiding in a Brazilian slum. The US army finds him, he Hulks out, they fight, he disappears. In part 2 “Breaking Harlem” Betty re-enters Bruce's life and a brainy scientist claims he can cure Bruce. Yet again happiness proves temporary. In a climactic battle the Hulk saves innocent lives but gets blamed for the damage.
Along the way we're introduced to The Abomination, Doc Samson, and possibly The Leader. The latter two may be set-ups for future story opportunities.

The producers described The Incredible Hulk (2008) as a "requel", a portmanteau of reboot and sequel that is as wrong as it sounds. It formed an flawed bridge between Hulk (2003) and subsequent MCU films. The actors changed, the CGI for the Hulk changed dramatically. As Hulk (2003) introduced us to the character of the Hulk, now we are introduced to the world of the Hulk. Between the theatrical release and 44 minutes of deleted scenes, we get world building and character development that echoes through to Avengers 1 and Captain America: Civil War. The theatrical release, while high on action, skips a lot of meaningful development. Tomahawk's Extended Edition (Universal hasn't released an official EE) includes all of that but runs 150 minutes and feels even longer. This edit incorporates the relevant narrative while keeping up the pace.
Additional Notes:
VERSION 2: 1080p (the visual difference between the HD theatrical movie and the 480p deleted scenes is minimized through impressive upscaling in Topaz) Audio 1: 5.1 Surround Audio 2: Commentary track with Louis Leterrier & Tim Roth (complete, so not synced to the edit) both tracks: English Subtitles
Other Sources:
- Craig Armstrong's Incredible Hulk soundtrack (double-CD)
- Thor 1 blu-ray (for The Consultant)
Special Thanks:
Thanks to Tomahawk for his Hulk (2008) edit.
HULK-SIZED thanks to Revel911 for the trial-and-error in Topaz to find the best settings to upscale the deleted scenes. The final result is impressive and far better than the first attempts.
Release Information:
Digital
Special Features
This is VERSION 2. The deleted scenes are properly upscaled, allowing the entire film to be 1080p instead of 720p.
Cuts and Additions:
- Throughout: trims for pacing. The theatrical + all deleted scenes is just too slow and too long. For pacing I would have preferred to cut another 5-10 minutes, but then I'd be cutting into either the meat of the story or the exciting parts of the action.
- Open with the Deleted Glacier scene, creating continuity with Banner's callback in Avengers 1.
- Opening titles are rescored (using music from a cut scene). Trimmed to match the new music cue.
- Banner doesn't hulk out from his pulse reaching 200. It's not about heart-rate, it's about ANGER. It makes me so angry that they added this inconsistent and unnecessary gimmick to the story! I've cut the watch throughout the movie. No pulse-meter during martial arts practice, the favela chase, the factory fight, in bed with Betty, or when Bruce gets slapped by Blonsky.
- Trim Bruce's flower experiment.
- Add several trimmed deleted scenes of Ross' exposition explaining why he "wants what's inside of him!", including that the US military never stopped trying to replicate Captain America's super soldier serum (including testing on prisoners of war). E.g. on the plane, in the hangar, in his office.
- Trim Bruce's time wandering around the university campus. For pacing and because this is a hunted man on a mission, he can be nostalgic later.
- In this edit, Bruce and Betty do get it on. After all, heart rate isn't Bruce's problem, so there's no watch to start beeping like Joan Rivers' "Virgin Alarm" in Spaceballs. To keep it suggestive rather than explicit, we cut quickly to daddy Ross brooding in his office.
- No taxi ride in Manhattan. This would work in an SNL spoof, but wrong kinda funny for the movie.
- After the final battle, use the deleted scene of Betty answering Doc Samson's call.
- Closing titles are rescored (using Craig Armstrong's original end credits theme).
- The edit is rendered in 720p because of the SD deleted scenes. If Universal ever releases all deleted scenes in cleaned-up 1080p, I'll happily double-dip to re-render this edit in 1080p.
- Deleted scenes have been expanded from 2.0 to 5.1.
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Hulk: Struggle for Control is a bona fide shelf replacer for the original theatrical release of the movie. This cut of the film is more tighter-paced than the others and adds in a lot of relevant deleted scenes that improve the narrative of the greater MCU with mention of the super-soldier program and the new opening scene that Banner later mentions in Avengers. The deleted scene's upscaling isn't noticeable, but the color grading in one scene, where there is a close-up Gen. Ross' face, looked a bit warmer than the rest of the movie. Other than that nitpick, this is a great fanfix. I would normally skip Hulk in rewatch marathons, but now this cut will be added to the rotation.

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The theatrical version of Incredible Hulk was at the time enjoyable and fine for me but after the mcu journey I had been waiting for an edit that made this movie feel more properly connected to the mcu rather than feeling disjointed. Lapis has done brilliant work incorporating and upscaling the deleted scenes so that it's not super low res. The deleted scenes themselves also add so much more to the movie with the mentions of the super soldier serum and adding more to characters like Ross, Blonsky and Betty's boyfriend. Also the removal of the beeping watch is a welcomed change. The whole pulse watch element causes massive inconsistencies with Bruce later in the mcu.. Also Betty feels more capable in this edit and adding the consultant short into the post credit was genius,

Overall the experience was more enjoyable and this edit is my go-to version for the incredible hulk. Cheers again lapis for allowing to watch this edit,

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First I want to thank lapis for allowing me to see this. It was the first fanedit I ever requested and they couldn't have been more gracious and helpful. I really enjoyed this edit. I always thought Incredible Hulk was a movie that just needed to be filled out and while trimming some of the Norton-ian fat. This edit does that. I appreciated the expansion on Samson's character and I never realized what an unnecessary device the heart rate monitor was. Good job on upsizing the deleted scenes. That is a major pain in the to make it blend, especially since the color grading on the deleted scenes was never completed. Great job. Definitely see it if you're someone that feels like Incredible Hulk was lacking in some way.

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I was hoping someone would do a really great edit of this movie and someone did! This was the version we should have got in the theater.

I never noticed how the movie was trying to do too much before. Taking out little things and removing the heart monitor really works to benefit this movie. You don't miss a beat (see what I did there). The story just flows so much better here.

My only real issues were:
The video seemed a little dark? I don't know if that's just the movie proper or not because I haven't watched it in years. As the editor mentioned in the forum, the deleted scenes move a little funny sometimes, but there is nothing you can do about that when you are adjusting frame rates. But I would still rather have these scenes than not.

The narrative just works here and adds more character to the movie as a whole. This is a version that I will re-watch and is my go to version for now on. When I have friends who want to watch this movie, this is the version I will show them. I can't say enough good things here.

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It's been many years since I watched the original, but after Episode 3 of What if? I was drawn to watch this edit. Honestly, its fantastic, the Doc Samson scenes really made the scenes between Bruce and Betty more tense for me. I also really like the removal of the heart monitor, making the movie fall more in line with the comics and the rest of the MCU. My only issue was that the deleted scenes were a bit low quality, but I know this couldn't have been avoided so its not really a big deal.

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