Groucho Marxist

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Allow me to preface with the fact that I love the original. I wouldn't want them to have delivered The Joker in any other way.... at least at the time of initial viewing. I was mostly drawn to this one because the title is hilarious.

That being said - this is absolutely a worthwhile watch and it is amazing how you can encapsulate the feeling of the entire film in 45 minutes without feeling like anything was lost. Kudos for having the vision, because as stated I watched The Joker and didn't notice anything I would have done differently.

I think most of these fan fixes take movies that are objectively bad because of the addition of certain storylines that never affect the movie in any one way or another and essentially they are removing fluff to realign the movie and 9 times out of 10 the only way to make a bad movie less bad is to take some of the bad out. Usually a fan fix of a good movie improves it by adding in deleted scenes and shifting the narrative in a way that keeps the deleted scenes from feeling out of place.

This takes a good movie, removes good scenes, and somehow makes it better (or at the very least as good). Wild!

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Joker cut down to 45 minutes doesn't sound possible, but it works surprisingly well. A few corners are cut, events being mentioned but not shown, it's a bit weird but it's not like it doesn't still make sense. Other than a couple things like Joker being assaulted with his sign stolen, I really didn't notice anything missing. When I hear people talking about a plot point that wasn't included in this edit like the girlfriend, I have to do a double take. This edit really illustrates how unnecessary most of the movie is. I loved the movie, but I really see myself more apt to revisit this edit than the regular film.

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Joker was a good film but a bit drawn out to feature length. “Groucho Marxist” collects the best parts of Joker into a quick, concise story. Excellent cutting and re-ordering of scenes throughout. Arthur’s descent happens much more quickly, which the re-ordering of scenes explains. Much higher pace than the original. All subplots (that I thought were unnecessary) were cut. Great new opening. This edit kept in character development, and was not just plot driven, despite being under 45mins. The ending credits gave the edit a political message, which I felt wasn’t needed.

The only scene I would’ve not cut was when Arthur gets jumped at the beginning, as it explains how his sign was lost, and why he gets a gun, both of which are referenced in this edit.

Overall, I highly recommend this edit. I am often biased to shorter, higher paced films so I really enjoyed this one.

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The one issue I’ve found is a half-second cut to silence (I’m sure it was not intended) at 21:18.

Groucho Marxist -- what is up with such a title… It’s almost too perfect to be true; it’s brilliant.

The audio edits are impressive. Most scenes are shorter but also more focused than the original ones. Each one transitions to the following scene with an incredible flow, much because of the way the audio edits are structured.

The main character is not such a pitiful (comic book-like) caricature and the story is much more grounded in reality. The main story arc is actually completely different. Now, the class struggle is the main course, instead of being a forced and rushed subplot like in the original.

What a remarkable example of storytelling and editing!

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Some fan edits are built like lifeboats. They're meant to salvage as many people as they can, but there's still the matter of the sinking ship. Groucho Marxist is no lifeboat, in fact it's arguably a god damn ocean liner. I've never seen a fan edit that so beautifully chopped apart a film and made it a genuinely enjoyable, yet entirely different, experience. Frankly, it's the only version worth your time.

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