Dune: The Alternative Edition Redux

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Thank you spicediver for finally giving us a great version of this movie.

It was a great idea to break the movie into four 'books'. This version is so much more cohesive and flows from scene to scene much better than anything that has been presented thus far. There are a couple of hiccups but nothing that detracts from the overall experience. I use the word experience because watching any David Lynch movie is an experience more than anything else. Even though this is one of his more straightforward movies it still has some moments of oddness and very unique imagery that can only be associated with Lynch.

This will definitely be my go-to version from now on. It's just so much better than the other cuts. If you are a fan of Dune, or just curious, start with this version and forget about the rest. You won't need any other version. Well done and thank you again spicediver.

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THIS IS IT. This is the edit that made me realize how much a talented, imaginative and passionate individual can change/improve/transform a movie. This is the edit that made me write my first review. I have seen other edits. Good edits that add some scenes, remove some scenes, improve the pace, the narrative etc. But nothing had prepared me for this. This is an unbelievable achievement and my go-to edit to prove to other people the power of fan edits.

I first watched Dune as a kid in the late 80s/early90s. I was mesmerized by the visuals, but didn't understand s**t. Then I watched it again after reading the book and didn't like many parts of the movie. The pacing was bad, the script at places was bad, uneven... but certain aspects like the art direction impressed me, and I found Lynch's vision and atmosphere very fitting... when it worked.
Then came the extended edition. It added many interesting deleted scenes, but the overall result was of bad quality. The storybook intro was amateurish and the added scenes were just thrown in there without even some added effects. The Third stage edition fanedit managed to vastly improve the above extended edition and it was my definite version... up until spicediver did his magic.

The change in the pace is phenomenal. The Book-Chapter separation works really good and many scenes have been very cleverly altered to fit the mood. The removal of most of the inner voiced dialog improves the movie immensely. Technically this edit is perfect in my eyes and considering the some of radical changes, this is a huge achievement. The fact that this fanedit includes English subtitles is another big plus. I wish more faneditors did this. Even if I consider myself pretty fluent in English, I usually choose to watch movies with English subtitles because they help me a lot, especially with strange accents and/or low voices. Faneditors should have in mind that non-native English speakers always welcome English subtitles.

Anyway, this fanedit is a testament of talent and love to the franchise as a whole. This edit transformed an interesting but deeply flawed gem into a brilliant movie. Thank you.

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My long, strange love/hate affair with Dune has culminated to an end point with this fanedit. I will never go back to any other conceivable version of Dune, nor will I facepalm myself in indigination over maestro David Lynch's well-intentioned but utterly misguided attempts at science-fiction dramatics. I am, now, at peace with Dune.

To the completely uninitiated, you'll likely be as lost as we once were in 1984 with Dune, no matter what the edit. Dune requires love, the kind of love Lynch himself couldn't admit to honestly. He was right in saying there is something very, very wrong with the integral structure of the theatrical cut (disowned, I might add), but when you witness the parts the added up to that gruesome whole, there is no way "love" wasn't part of Lynch's drive and passion in design, in intention, and in, to degrees, execution.

Some of what once caused me to bury me gulliver in me hands still exists: those voiceovers (NONE of which are necessary), the laughably muted "action scenes", which shows that while Lynch is capable of some almost-metaphysical miracles of cinema (check that new Twin Peaks - wow!), he can't direct a basic action scene with any sense of suspense. The "weirding way" is awkward. The Baron remains one of THE most over-the-top-annoying villains of all time. Toto's guitar music and the special effects are hopelessly outdated.

OK....still with me? Now let me tell you something about Dune. The above list and all, Dune exerts a hold, in this edit, that has a seductive power that the best science fiction stories do. It's a real epic story; it's believable. You must see Dune more than a couple times to 'get it' (I'm speaking to those unfamiliar with Herbert's work). This edit provides, finally, the pillow and framework for such a journey. At three hours, one may find spending that kind of time with....DUNE....utterly insane. For me, the first time with this cut was like Christmas morning - let me settle in, let me explore, let me be carried away on those titles: "BOOK 1", "BOOK 2", etc. It adds grandeur, love, and the kind of correct structuring and framework this story needs, freed from all pretenses of "profit" and "box office". It ain't Jodoworsky, but Lynch deserves to be proud over what he envisioned. Spicediver brings out the absolute best in Dune.

By the time the transcendent vision of the Atreides fleet folding space to get to Arrakis comes to the screen, we are dealing in sci-fi territory not to be reckoned with. Sure, Dune screams for a remake (Denis Villeneuve, where are you???), but the lengths Lynch went to, following his walking away from the Return of the Jedi job, are nothing less than astonishing. As a big Grateful Dead fan, i remember an interview with Jerry Garcia, where he says that he was pushing the band to get to a place he had once been to and found it ever-elusive. And thus it was forever. He was very, very frustrated in not being able to "get there", but then listened to the tapes of the band's gruelingly intense live improvisational work and was amazed at what was created in the process. You could look at Dune that way - a vision that ultimately fell short of complete realization, but, wow, what a way to fail!

This is a psychedelic movie. It is a tale of a society which has evolved itself around a drug. The vision you need with Dune is with an inner sense of the infinite related to narrative, to believe in the "realism" of such a society. It certainly is a vision of realistic proportions. Again, Spicediver pays very close attention to that sense of the psycho-tropic infinite, and, with that pallet, we willingly let ourselves be carried along towards Paul's sense of self-actualization on Arrakis, blue-eyed wonder.

The 8/10 section of my review is due to the limitations in quality of the deleted scenes - it's more than obvious when they're in the film. But, having seen the edit as many times as I now have, they have become seamless.

So fine-tune your truthsayer senses, turn off all the lights, turn the volume way UP, and behold Spicediver's miraculous salvaging of Lynch's tottering giant. Spicediver, you have done something truly remarkable - through the film you have ended the problems of Dune.

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Dune has long been one of my personal favorite,s and is certainly one of the finest classics around.. I have collected many versions over the years, even compiled one or two of mine own in order to get a more complete experience, but so far, none have been able to compare with this version.. I observed 4 different releases just today before finding this one during my course of upgrading whatever I can at last.. to 1080p.... and at last can say I have mostly what I want.. The video quality is superb save for about 7 or 8 clips that I am quite positive Spicediver just could not enhance any more.. I can tell...that you do work like I do.. over, and over, and over again until it is as perfect as you can make it.. even ripping the audio out and working separately with multiple programs to remaster both audio and video to where there is no glitches or other of the myriads of problems.. I am the sort of musician who can hear about 0.3 of a semitone of difference, and I can also see and hear down to 2 and 300ms of gap, possibly less. There are segments in this fanedit I had never seen in all of the copies I have obtained over the years... It really put the whole thing in proper perspective and flowed quite nicely.. I would have preferred that you had not removed most of the princess' monologue at the first.. enough to actually fix my own copy to reflect it.. and I also would have preferred at least 25% more of the soliloquies to have not been removed.. There were indeed too many, but removing just over 75% of them is problematic, and not exactly practical, as it asserts that everyone is a mind reader.. to be quite Francois and Ernesto about it. * chuckles * You had some awesome resources to do this edit Spicediver and almost Draconic style, professional skill with the editing.. It is an most excellent compilation. I'm actually going to watch it twice in one day just to be satisfied. I also would have preferred the sketched section to have been included in a proper place more than just a glance at that book for a few words, and a scene or three.. Backstory is everything with a story like this and I don't care if the movie is 4 - 6 hrs long... It's worth it.. If you ever feel like it again Spicediver.. do one more and let's see how it hangs off the chain... You do most excellent work

I also appreciated greatly when you broke the scene for each book... very thoughtful, and accurate..

Regardless of my few, minor issues.. I definitely give this fanedit a 10 talons up...

And remember one things folks, If... you will..

Perfection is the flaw that makes everything work.......

Namaste...

Aurih.

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"A film that’s been admired, hated and puzzled-over in fairly equal amounts ... "

How about, all the above?
Stunning set design and ridiculous costumes. What are the Sardaukar, firefighters?
Gorgeous Brian Eno theme - then Toto.
Exposition that advances the plot, dialogue that booms bombastic.
Top tier actors driven by madman Lynch to ham it up.
I loved Dune - I hated Dune.

Spicediver did an outstanding job in focusing the narrative thrust of the movie.
I appreciate how he organized the structure into four books.
Video editing was fine. When deleted footage was used, it was noticeable. Sharp to grainy. Yet the result was in keeping with his intended edit.
Audio, once or twice I caught some dialogue that did not match mouths. More often than not, there was a crop or he inserted audio when character backs were turned. Again, this was meant to enhance pacing or narrative, so I don't want to nitpick.
I really enjoyed this edit, which eclipses my other copies, including the miniseries.

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Owner's reply August 22, 2013

Thanks for the review.

I don't remember inserting dialogue that didn't match mouths, nor inserting dialogue when character backs were turned. So it must be how those shots/scenes are in their original state.

Yes, its too bad about the Deleted footage. That footage was non-anamorphic, which means it had to be zoomed-in/blown-up so that the picture touched the sides of the frame and matched the the original anamorphic footage in its 2.35.1 aspect ratio.

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