Dune: The Alternative Edition ReduxHot
Secondly, Redux has allowed me to respond to some of the criticisms made by fans over the years and make further changes that I think improve the storytelling and presentation. The restoration of Princess Irulan as the film’s narrator is one such example.
For me it’s been a long, exciting and sometimes exhausting journey. I’d particularly like to thank the fanediting community. Without such avenues to promote my work and without the generous input and feedback of enthusiastic members, the Dune movie as I have moulded it simply wouldn’t exist.
David Lynch himself refuses to revisit the film, despite admitting that “there’s something wrong with that movie” and complaining that he never had final cut. So it’s left to us fans to tinker and reshape this curious piece of sc-fi cinema; trying to minimise its many flaws, amplify its many strengths and – in my case – trying to add something new as well.
I hope you enjoy the trip.
- NTSC DVD-9
The DVD9 release has customised English & Spanish subtitles. For the MP4 and AVI releases, the subtitles are available at Subscene.com. Thankyou to DwightFry for the Spanish translation.
* Most scenes and footage unique to the Extended Edition have been used.
* The following Deleted Scenes from the DVD extras have been included:
- The Fremen Reverend Mother’s original opening to the film
- An extension of Fremen housekeeper Mapes testing Jessica
- Thufir and Leto discussing the Fremen’s prophecy about Paul
- An extension of Paul’s talk with Jessica after his waking dream
- The aftermath of Paul defeating Jamis in the knife fight
- The Fremen priest telling Paul he may be the fulfilment of their prophecy
- A shot of Jessica in labour with Alia
- A closeup shot of Fremen warriors shouting “long live the fighters!”
- Thufir Howat’s redemption and death
- Paul taking Princess Irulan as his wife.
* The film has been divided into four “Books”, each with a title frame preceded by a quote from various Dune novels. The original novel by Frank Herbert was divided into 3 books. This fanedit includes these and adds a 4th book to accommodate the structure of the film. The titles are: Book I: The Great Houses; Book II: Dune; Book III: Muad’dib; Book IV: The Prophet.
* Two new filmbooks have been created about the history of the universe, and are seen being read by Paul Atreides during the film. They have been built with material from the Extended Edition’s prologue and are designed to match the look and feel of the existing filmbook that appears early in the movie.
* Some scenes from both the Theatrical and Extended Editions have been moved around and relocated to improve the narrative, including changes to accommodate the fanedit’s new 4-part structure.
* A new opening features Princess Irulan’s narration, a Fremen ceremony and customised Dune Titles. The Fremen ceremony audio now has the intended reverb added, and the chanted answers to the Reverend Mother are now the sound of a whole crowd responding instead of a single placemarker voice.
* A new, simpler ending has been created, modelled on an earlier draft script, where Paul does not magically make rain fall on Arrakis. The idea of rain on Arrakis is a narrative and ecological absurdity in the world that Frank Herbert created.
* Princess Irulan is the narrator. The Alternative Edition Redux uses most elements of her narration from the Theatrical Edition, plus selected audio edits from her Deleted Scene.
* The male narrator including the painted prologue from the Extended Edition has been deleted, but parts of it have been reworked into two new filmbooks about the history of the universe, read by Paul Atreides during the film.
* The overuse and/or inappropriate choice of music in some scenes from the Extended Edition has been addressed.
* The attack on House Atreides by the Harkonnen and the Emperor’s forces is confusingly shot and edited in places. This has now been re-edited and some shots flipped around, to a give better sense of direction and a better sense of the ebb and flow of battle.
* Because the Fremen Reverend Mother’s prophecy now opens the film, it’s appearance in the official versions of the Dune – when House Atreides lands on Arrakis – now seems like an exact repeat of an earlier shot. So the Trip To Arrakis sequence has now been remixed so that only desert landscapes are used for the visuals, while the prophecy is still heard on the soundtrack.
* The Deleted Scene where Thufir speaks to Leto about the Fremen prophecy now opens with an atmospheric long shot of Arakeen and the castle keep. This shot has been changed to make it set at dusk and the 2nd moon rising over the shield wall has been added.
* An new closeup of Princess Irulan – and some altered footage – has been included in the scene where Paul surveys the prisoners after his defeat of the Emperor.
* Approximately 60% of internal dialogue has been removed from the audio track and, where necessary, the video has been recut. I believe it was a colossal mistake by Lynch to adapt this narrative device so literally from Frank Herbert’s novel. In the translation from book to film many viewers find a good deal of it irritating and unnecessary. It often spoonfeeds obvious information to the audience and can pull the viewer out of the scene rather than drawing them in. Essential elements like The Litany Against Fear have been left intact.
* Deleted the incongruous St Francis Prayer section from Princess Irulan’s final narration, in order to move the story away from a simplistic and forced happy ending: “Where there was war, Muad’dib would bring peace; where there was hatred Muad’dib would bring love.” Dune is not Disney, despite producer Dino De Laurentiis’ apparent attempts to make it so.
* Reduced Paul’s awkward forced laughter in two shots to a more believable smile.
* Deleted some cheesy closeups of the actors when riding the sandworms.
* Deleted Chani’s cheesy line when Paul wakes from a dream: “You were calling my name. It frightened me.”
* Deleted Beast Rabban’s diabolical laughter when the Baron hands him charge of Arrakis. Also deleted the shot of him kicking over the dwarf. These villains are already cartoonish enough.
* Deleted or fixed some bad rear projection FX shots during Paul and Jessica’s pursuit by the sandworm. This action scene as also been tightened to increase the sense of danger.
* The climax of Paul and Feyd’s knife fight has been tightened to make it more tense and more plausible.
* Completed the blue spice eyes FX on human characters where this effect was missing in the Extended Edition and in some Deleted Scenes.
* Also added blue spice eyes FX to the 3rd stage Guild navigators in two scenes, in line with the description of the navigators in Frank Herbert’s books.
* Colour-corrected all footage unique to the Extended Edition to remove a pronounced green tint.
* Fixed the filmbook read by Paul in the opening scene on Caladan because many images are stretched out in the wrong aspect ratio. These shots have now been corrected and the images rebuilt.
* Fixed the infamous editing mistakes, bad audio joins and censorship in scenes that were used from the Extended Edition.
* Digitally cleaned and restored the lower resolution Deleted Scenes to improve the image quality. Also cleaned up audio where possible.
* The Extended Edition DVD print is slightly crisper and generally in better shape than the Theatrical DVD print. So where Theatrical Edition footage was needed or preferred, footage from the French Bluray was used (scaled down to Standard Definition) due to the cleaner print.
* The audio track from the Theatrical Edition is used wherever possible due to its superior quality and mix.
Better story development than any other version. Unfortunately some footage has quite bad picture quality, but the improved narrative justifies including it.
Thank you for this tremendous effort.
Thank you spicediver for finally giving us a great version of this movie.
It was a great idea to break the movie into four 'books'. This version is so much more cohesive and flows from scene to scene much better than anything that has been presented thus far. There are a couple of hiccups but nothing that detracts from the overall experience. I use the word experience because watching any David Lynch movie is an experience more than anything else. Even though this is one of his more straightforward movies it still has some moments of oddness and very unique imagery that can only be associated with Lynch.
This will definitely be my go-to version from now on. It's just so much better than the other cuts. If you are a fan of Dune, or just curious, start with this version and forget about the rest. You won't need any other version. Well done and thank you again spicediver.
THIS IS IT. This is the edit that made me realize how much a talented, imaginative and passionate individual can change/improve/transform a movie. This is the edit that made me write my first review. I have seen other edits. Good edits that add some scenes, remove some scenes, improve the pace, the narrative etc. But nothing had prepared me for this. This is an unbelievable achievement and my go-to edit to prove to other people the power of fan edits.
I first watched Dune as a kid in the late 80s/early90s. I was mesmerized by the visuals, but didn't understand s**t. Then I watched it again after reading the book and didn't like many parts of the movie. The pacing was bad, the script at places was bad, uneven... but certain aspects like the art direction impressed me, and I found Lynch's vision and atmosphere very fitting... when it worked.
Then came the extended edition. It added many interesting deleted scenes, but the overall result was of bad quality. The storybook intro was amateurish and the added scenes were just thrown in there without even some added effects. The Third stage edition fanedit managed to vastly improve the above extended edition and it was my definite version... up until spicediver did his magic.
The change in the pace is phenomenal. The Book-Chapter separation works really good and many scenes have been very cleverly altered to fit the mood. The removal of most of the inner voiced dialog improves the movie immensely. Technically this edit is perfect in my eyes and considering the some of radical changes, this is a huge achievement. The fact that this fanedit includes English subtitles is another big plus. I wish more faneditors did this. Even if I consider myself pretty fluent in English, I usually choose to watch movies with English subtitles because they help me a lot, especially with strange accents and/or low voices. Faneditors should have in mind that non-native English speakers always welcome English subtitles.
Anyway, this fanedit is a testament of talent and love to the franchise as a whole. This edit transformed an interesting but deeply flawed gem into a brilliant movie. Thank you.
Let me preface the review I'm about to give with a bit of my own backstory regarding Dune. The first time I'd actually seen the theatrical cut was in about 1987. I was six or seven at the time and the movie was like nothing I'd ever seen before. The tone, the production, the music...all of it. Totally the antithesis of Star Wars, which I'd experienced shortly before. During my teens, I'd revisit the film from time to time and at the age of twelve, finally read the novel. Each time I'd watch the movie after reading the book, I kept getting this feeling that the film was gutted. And watching the extended Alan Smithee edition in 2005 drove that point home. Alas, neither of those cuts did the true job of demonstrating how good the book is.
Spicediver has completed a masterwork here. Every gripe I had with either of the film's prior official releases is vapor. The pacing, the exposition, the execution are in synchronicity. The film's...rhythm is now on point. It breathes and the spice certainly does flow. As with the previous reviews below mine, is it perfect? No. But any quibbles I have are minute to the Nth degree and wouldn't be worth the keystrokes.
As a true testament of how good this edit is, I cajoled my wife into watching it with me. She's an avowed Star Trek fan and upon viewing Dune the first time with me years back, let's just say that she was wholly unimpressed. Even trying to get her to read the novel was a fruitless labor. Upon convincing her to watch this version of the movie, she wants to read the book now. THAT is how good this cut is. To take a doubter, practically a hater even and show them what really could have been. And to actually sway them.
The only real gripe I have is that I don't have a version of this cut on uncompressed Blu-Ray with a DTS-HD Master Audio sound mix. Universal should hire Spicediver. No joke.
THIS is my go-to version of Dune to watch and I will watch no other, henceforth. I consider this canon.
Dune has long been one of my personal favorite,s and is certainly one of the finest classics around.. I have collected many versions over the years, even compiled one or two of mine own in order to get a more complete experience, but so far, none have been able to compare with this version.. I observed 4 different releases just today before finding this one during my course of upgrading whatever I can at last.. to 1080p.... and at last can say I have mostly what I want.. The video quality is superb save for about 7 or 8 clips that I am quite positive Spicediver just could not enhance any more.. I can tell...that you do work like I do.. over, and over, and over again until it is as perfect as you can make it.. even ripping the audio out and working separately with multiple programs to remaster both audio and video to where there is no glitches or other of the myriads of problems.. I am the sort of musician who can hear about 0.3 of a semitone of difference, and I can also see and hear down to 2 and 300ms of gap, possibly less. There are segments in this fanedit I had never seen in all of the copies I have obtained over the years... It really put the whole thing in proper perspective and flowed quite nicely.. I would have preferred that you had not removed most of the princess' monologue at the first.. enough to actually fix my own copy to reflect it.. and I also would have preferred at least 25% more of the soliloquies to have not been removed.. There were indeed too many, but removing just over 75% of them is problematic, and not exactly practical, as it asserts that everyone is a mind reader.. to be quite Francois and Ernesto about it. * chuckles * You had some awesome resources to do this edit Spicediver and almost Draconic style, professional skill with the editing.. It is an most excellent compilation. I'm actually going to watch it twice in one day just to be satisfied. I also would have preferred the sketched section to have been included in a proper place more than just a glance at that book for a few words, and a scene or three.. Backstory is everything with a story like this and I don't care if the movie is 4 - 6 hrs long... It's worth it.. If you ever feel like it again Spicediver.. do one more and let's see how it hangs off the chain... You do most excellent work
I also appreciated greatly when you broke the scene for each book... very thoughtful, and accurate..
Regardless of my few, minor issues.. I definitely give this fanedit a 10 talons up...
And remember one things folks, If... you will..
Perfection is the flaw that makes everything work.......