Batman v Superman: No Justice

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There is not alot which I can add that hasnt been said already from the other positive reviews so Ill just say this, flawless editing from Reese. Lex motivations for me seem alot more clearer now driving home his need to manipuate even a god to bend to his will.

As spex121 points out in his reveiw if Reese makes a separate stand alone epilogue showing the cameos and Supermans death which will link No Justive to future films then this will truly make this edit canon. Well done Reese.

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Let me start by saying that I am a huge comic book movie fan, and an even bigger Batman and Superman fan. However, after seeing BvS in theaters I was left with a slightly hollow feeling. I felt like I'd just watched a potentially amazing movie, but it never shone through due to muddled pacing and sub-plots, important plot points never being made clear, and just general wtf moments.
When the Ultimate Edition came out I felt it tidied up some of these problems by making the overarching plot clearer, but my it was a long 3 hour slog.

THIS is the alternate cut everyone's been waiting for.

This cuts out any JL fluff, murky sub-plots and silly moments. Leaving a crisp, cohesive, narrative driven DC movie. The video and audio editing was impeccable. I literally could not find one fault throughout the whole movie, everything moved along seamlessly.
I also think everything Reese took out, and also put in, led to what this film was meant to be.
Cutting out the cgi Doomsday bash fest, cameos, needless dialogue and adding things like the jokers laugh, the cut of martha and young clark during the martha scene and linking it all together seamlessly with the soundtrack is a feat beyond words.

I saw another reviewer say Lois saying Clark 'came back' didn't make sense due to the editing, but he had just flown away from the Capitol so she could have easily meant that. The Martha scene was also fantastically done so there was no eye rolling. Thomas Wayne's final word was Martha's name and this obviously still resonates with Bruce to this day, the reaction was exactly what I would expect from this. The cut then makes it obvious they talk and Bruce decides to save Martha, to stop the same thing happening to Clark's mother that did his. The shot of young Martha here really brings this home.

The cut out footage was always at the back of my mind, but I never noticed anything missing from this cut. DCEU plot aside, this is the cut I will always turn to if I ever want to watch this film again. My hope is that like with his prologue, Reese will make an epilogue showing the cameos and supermans death that will link this film to Justice League. Then we can truly enjoy it as part of the canon narritive.

This only loses stars due to the quality of the film itself, everything Reese did gets 10/10.

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Bravo reeseevans, Bravo!

If you watch this cut, I think you will be pleasantly surprised to find this was probably how the original script was intended to be and is truly enjoyable. In this edit, there is no Doomsday (sadly), very brief glimpse of Diana (even more sadly), no Justice League lead-in, no Darkseid suggestions, just straight Batman Versus Superman story line. Once you focus on the real story, the story is compelling. Lex is less annoying and you can tell how well he has planned this without constant distractions of other minor plots. I should note though the more I watch any cut or edition of this movie, the more I wish we had a powerful, tall, bald serious business type Lex as one remember from the animated series or the dc animated universe. The more I think of such a Lex though, the more difficult it becomes to think of such an actor. I don't think Vin Diesel or The Rock would do the role justice, Lawrence Fishbourne on the other hand would have been a compelling choice for Lex rather than Perry White. At any rate, I highly recommend this cut, this is really making a great sale to be the definitive telling of this story. This is the movie that makes you think about it after it ends. Watch it!

The editing is well done. If I had any objections it has to do primarily with three points.
1) Doomsday and Diana are gone. As much as they really aren't relevant to the true story, the action scene is great and Diana is the true hero of the movie (especially more so now that her movie has done so well). When you watch the movie, it makes sense to cut them out, but I still missed them. It is a really tough call and I applaud reeseevans courage to cut such a scene. With the original ending removed from this version now, this edit's end is a bit short. Due to the greater focus on the BvS direct story line, the "Martha" issue does not come across as bothersome or even corny anymore. There could have been a bit more dialogue between Bruce and Clark at this point to hit home the point that until that moment in time Bruce only saw Clark as a monster and not as a hero or even a human. I only wish for Reeseevan's edit, there was more source material he could have used to draw out his ending more.

2) The aforementioned Lex casting.

3) Lastly, there exists another fan edit I am very fond of and it began with the Superman Metropolis scene rather than the Batman Origin story again. In that edit, the Metropolis scene is followed by the TV - Neil Degrasse Tyson - Kentucky Senator - the question of the existence of a Superman and what that means for the human race. In that edit, it felt more of a direct tie-in to Man of Steel and moving the middle of the original BvS scene to the beginning really brought home this question left open at the end of Man of Steel. That is: "Whoa, beings or aliens exist that defy all logic and physics, they can destroy the world, how do we react?" I liked that beginning and sequence more than the Batman Origin Story. I felt the Batman Origin Story was out of place, but only because we have seen it so many times now. It seemed ALMOST pointless, but is successfully brought back in as Batman recognizing himself as Joe Chill in the moment he can end Superman. If anything, I just liked that beginning more than the original movie beginning.

Reeseevans did a fantastic job and had to make some very difficult choices. The cuts are compelling, tell a very fluid story, and I really enjoyed this. I HIGHLY recommend this and can say this is the version I will always watch from now on. The editing was smooth and just making Lex be less "Joker" and more focused on his planning than his mannerism helped quite a bit. Removing Batman death scenes and adding elements from other sources truly helped in this great story! Thank you reeseevans, look forward to your work in the future! If you ever want to do Man of Steel (if you haven't already, I have some suggestions!)

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This film is terrible. But this edit actually makes it watchable. This fanedit is of extremely high quality and demonstrates a thorough understanding of storytelling, pacing and character, much moreso than the original director. Whilst the narrative itself is not entirely 'fixed', the narrative changes are perfect, hence leading to my perfect 10 score. Great job!

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As the ratings to the right of this review spell out, I really can't simply comment on the work as a whole, rather I need to break it down into the key categories that go into making a truly great fan edit. In terms of technical quality, this edit is inarguably tremendous. 1080 quality is every bit as good as my official digital copy. The edits - both visual and audio - are spot on, with no real jerkiness or quick cuts. This could easily be a professionally edited work, and that's tremendous.

Ultimately I found myself having two issues with the film. Firstly, I'm not a fan of changing the endpoints of a film, conceptually. That this version of the film will never be able to naturally flow into Justice League or any other future film is a bit disappointing, and while I understand the intention thematically (of reducing the film to purely the battle between Batman and Superman), there are other considerations that I feel were ignored (Superman's character arc that ultimately leads to his death, for instance).

However, I understand most of those reservations are personal preferences and arguably a bit finicky on my part, so I went into the film trying to be open minded and, for the sake of the review, being more positive towards the intent and concept behind this edit. Despite that, I did find I didn't enjoy the movie quite as much as I expected I would. The pacing and structure of the film is actually quite strong - better than the original certainly - however by leaving out many of the additional storylines of BVS, the movie feels very...heavy. I wouldn't say it's confusing, but having the vast majority of the movie dedicated to Luthor's machinations ultimately left me feeling kind of overwhelmed and exhausted by the movie. In my opinion, BVS needed less of the complex and multifaceted intrigue, not more.

Overall, it's still a VERY good edit. I would definitely recommend it, and I wouldn't be shocked at all if you come away loving it far more than I did. I just wouldn't go as far as saying this is my preferred version of the movie, or head and shoulders above the original cut.

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