Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice Part 2 - The Consequences Edit

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In anticipation of the ZSJL release, "Bad Movies made Less Bad" presents:
Dawn of Justice Trilogy : Part Two
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2016
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Brief Synopsis:
(All three movies generally focus on the inherent nature of mankind.)

Main changes:
• Remove the Africa incident and change public reaction to events of MoS.
• Better establish the classic Kryptonian boy scout in the first Act.
• Remove Batman killing people (he still “lets” bad guys die, but doesn’t kill outright)
• Refine Lex into a better villain – less weird, more obviously paranoid, less daddy issues, more calculated (i.e. making doomsday as a backup plan more understandable.)
• Clarify the conflict the world has with Superman – its all about fear.
• Batman doesn’t actually see the future, does not see the Flash
• Change Batman’s moral return to be prodded by fear and the similarities to his parent’s killing - not the realization that their mothers have the same name.
No foreshadowing of Superman’s resurrection.
Intention:
After three long years of OCD, my cherished MoS and BvS edits are finally complete. These are two movies that I now love. When MoS came out, I was absolutely heartbroken - this didn't feel like the Superman I remember. When BvS was announced, I got on board with this Superman to see the movie of my dreams, or so I thought. Then I saw Batman killing people like I'd never seen before. Needless to say, I wasn't on board with "what they did to my boys."

And so my fanediting journey began. I was sure there were great movies buried in these blasphemous turds. I did a ton of work at the beginning, learning as I went. My skills were terrible, but I could not stop trying for some reason. After the first year, I was happy with the result, taking out all the parts of the movies I didn't feel matched the characters I wanted. I showed my better half, and her response was that all the characters felt flat, lacked depth. At the time, I thought there was no solution for this due to the source materials. By this time I had also seen TM2YC's amazing MoS edit and Mr. Blue's equally amazing BvS edit. I recognized that I was beating a dead horse, and retired the effort. Their edits are the gold standard, and every faneditor worth a lick already has their own edit of these movies, so I decided to put my edits on a shelf.

Or so I told myself over and over again. I would constantly revisit my edits however, watching them at least once a month and making at least 5 new revisions each and every time, always with an intent to bring more character development and depth to my heroes. OCD if there ever was one. But it was also the greatest hobby for me. I design for a living, working within deadlines and creating the visions of others. Fanediting has allowed me to pursue my own artistic vision, on my own timeline and to the exacting vision I that have, not the client's. I do think the broader audience opinion matters, but its much like my personal art in other mediums I have done in the past.

When Zack Snyder announced his Justice League were on their way, I was once again excited, knowing I may yet again be disappointed. But my little pet MoS and BvS projects had given me new appreciation for the movies, as I now know pretty much every frame WAY too well.

My better half asked what the ZSJL hubbub was all about, and when I mentioned her reaction to my edits a couple years ago, she gave me a completely blank look, not remembering already watching them. So I showed her the edits as they existed at that point. And... she loved them! I brought up the character development issues from the past, but she said she didn't notice them now. Validation. These new edits were not the same as my first attempts.

Next up was to make my friends watch. Most of them liked the movies much better than the original, but one friend had this to say: "If the Martha Name Trivia scene is still in the BvS movie, there is no saving this franchise." And he still wouldn't watch. I told him it was hopeless, and that I think he'll like everything else about the movies. Still a hard "NO" from him, who is even a comic book collector.

I took to Reddit next, sharing my edits there as I was still not an approved editor on this site. Lovely complements, and lots of fans and followers, but not the real constructive criticism I was looking for.

And so, my OCD kicked in again. Over the years and especially since the pandemic, these movies have been polished and honed repeatedly. They have been compared with the original films again as well as the TM2YC, and Mr. Blue edits as well, for any remaining opportunities. Over the past three years and countless viewings, every viewing revealing more opportunities for making the edit just a little better, I now have two edits I can watch completely though without feeling the need to adjust anything.
Additional Notes:
1920x800, 48 kHz Stereo High and Low bit rate versions available
Other Sources:
Time - Inception by Hans Zimmer (Cello Cover) by "ThatCelloGuy15"
Awesome deepfake footage by Jarkancio
Video footage from Batman Begins
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Special Thanks:
Inspiration from the great TM2YC and Mr. Blue.
Release Information:
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Editing Details:
(All three movies generally focus on the inherent nature of mankind.)

Main changes:
• Remove the Africa incident and change public reaction to events of MoS.
• Better establish the classic Kryptonian boy scout in the first Act.
• Remove Batman killing people (he still “lets” bad guys die, but doesn’t kill outright)
• Refine Lex into a better villain – less weird, more obviously paranoid, less daddy issues, more calculated (i.e. making doomsday as a backup plan more understandable.)
• Clarify the conflict the world has with Superman – its all about fear.
• Batman doesn’t actually see the future, does not see the Flash
• Change Batman’s moral return to be prodded by fear and the similarities to his parent’s killing - not the realization that their mothers have the same name.
No foreshadowing of Superman’s resurrection.
Cuts and Additions:
Cut List:
• Wayne family death flashback and funeral removed.
• Intro rebuilt from Whiplash Dynamo’s “Batman V Superman: MORTAL Prologue”
• Bruce driving stopping, with people moving out of his way removed
• Wallace doesn’t recognize Bruce
• Title sequence moved to after Bruce looking up, with “Part 2” added.
• Whiplash Dynamo’s “Batman V Superman: MORTAL Prologue” Vignette added after title sequence recounting devastation from Zod encounter and that Congress holds Superman accountable
• 18 months changed to 6 months
• Football coverage removed
• New footage inserted of Superman interacting with kids after working with firemen
• When GCPD arrive, they find the branded criminal but do not see Batman in the room on the ceiling (saving the first reveal of the suit for later)
• Batman visiting crypt moved up to here, mixed with shots of parents murder and shot of Bruce in the alley over parents dead bodies (from Batman Begins, color corrected for better visual continuity) No blood or bat coming from grave. Cut to Bruce descending Batcave elevator. (to seem like he visits the crypt often)
• All Africa scenes and references removed
• Lois arrives at the apartment, mail shots removed, bullet shots removed
• Clark and Lois discuss hearings, in regard to Zod battle
• Clark getting into bathtub removed
• Lex’s basketball intro removed
• Mention of “metahuman thesis” removed
• Lex only asks for access to ship, but uses his small tool to THEN remove fingerprints from Zod’s body and gains special access to ship control
• Removed Wallace in his apt before vandalism
• Removed Perry asking for a story about affair with superman over
• Removed Clark showing Gotham mother the newspaper with photo of neighbor
• Trimmed Lex’s discussion with Senator
• Added Wayne parents’ death flashes as Bruce’s nightmare
• Lois bullet discussion and subsequent trip discussion with Clark removed
• Joker laugh added when viewing Robin suit
• Bruce’s naked shower shots removed
• Initial visual contact of Bruce and Diana removed
• Lex’s speech tightened to remove him blundering
• Mention of Pa Kent not traveling removed from Clarks call with mother
• Perry’s line “there’s copy alright” while pointing to a blank page removed
• “The Daily Show” removed
• Knightmare scene reduced to just when Bruce is captured
• Mention of Lois dying removed
• Appearance by the Flash removed
• Bruce’s discussion with Alfred removed the “two years’ mention
• Bruce doesn’t drive into first car
• Bruce doesn’t encounter truck with the turret in it, so he doesn’t destroy it
• Batmobile cutting off top of truck slightly shortened, and shot of two people in truck right after removed (to hopefully draw attention away from the third guy – probably dead but I couldn’t remove more here)
• Clark’s discussion with Martha slightly tightened to remove “you’re not a killer, a threat”
• Senator’s scene with witness about Lex removed
• Senator’s discussion with Lex in hallway tightened
• Scene with Subway death removed
• Tightened sequence when Senator recognizes jar of piss
• Shots about Wallace’s paychecks removed from Bruce’s board room
• Shots about Wallace’s paychecks removed from Alfred at home
• Removed shots of cops getting CPR from Lex’s building break in. (try to reduce implication that people may have died)
• Shots of the Metahuman file Icons removed
• Clark and Lois balcony scene reduced
• Lex’s Zod’s body move up and dialogue reduced
• Lois’s bullet search removed
• Clark and Dad in the mountains moved to MoS
• Bruce leaving old mansion now cuts to Batman placing spear
• Nancy Grace scene removed
• Lois kidnapping tightened to remove her recognition of KGBeast
• Lex and Lois dialogue on roof reduced
• Lex and Clark on roof dialogue reduced
• Clark’s line “nobody says good in this world” is removed
• Clark’s line “there isn’t time” removed
• Bruce’s dragging Batman by the foot and tossing him around by a cord removed, to remove discussion of parental differences
• Metahuman file viewing by Diana removed
• Re-edited Superman execution scene to remove “Martha” motivation and used origin story of Batman Begins to connect the parallels between the murder of the Waynes and the scene with Lois and Clark. Also added Joker’s laugh and Alfred’s advice from earlier in the movie.
• Removed more shots of Batman outright killing people – no blowing up cars with people in them or throwing crates. Note – he still allows people to deal with grenades they brought themselves.
• Trimmed so Batman shoots KGBeast’s gas tank immediately, removed lines about being Superman’s friend to Martha
• Trimmed Lex’s dialogue at introduction of Doomsday
• Mention of populated vs unpopulated areas by Major during Doomsday fight removed
• Mention that Batman needs to “lead” Doomsday to the spear is removed, now Doomsday just follows after Batman
• Mention of populated vs unpopulated areas by Wonder Woman removed
• Lois gets trapped underwater closer to when she is saved
• Lex found in the ship in the blood removed
• Empty Metropolis removed
• Bagpipes song replaced with new audio track, piano and cello rendition of Time by Hans Zimmer
• Priest dialogue and discussion about funeral payments removed
• Bruce and Diana discussion tightened
• Movie ends with tightened Lex and Batman in Cell scene, and painting shot (foreshadowing JL)
• Removed Shot if dirt rising on Clark grave
• MetaHuman video footage viewing moved to credits, cropped CNN webpage out and added Bruce’s mouse clicks

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So first off, I have to say that this is technically super well-executed. If I hadn't seen BvS in both it's offical forms several times, there are some things I might not have missed, they were so well excised. The two cuts which I "felt" was during Lois and Lex's conversation on top of LexCorp Tower and when Batman shot KGBeast's flamethrower.

From the beginning, I knew I wasn't going to be rating this edit 10/10. Batman v Superman is actually my favorite comic book film of all time, so clearly, I wasn't going to be 100% on board with some of these cuts. However, I am always interested to see a new perspective on a favorite film, so I was glad to get into this. I went into this looking for simple continuity of character and plot. As with every film I watch, I intentionally tried to watch it without expectations; to take it on it's own merits and not force it to live up to something I've imagined beforehand.

Overall, I would say wakeupkeo has done a fantastic job cutting out the elements of the film that distracted many people from seeing the good, solid superhero movie that was always part of BvS. In general, most of the edits are fantastically chosen to give the story a laser focus on, as the title says, "Batman v Superman." We have pretty uncomplicated and clear reasons both Bruce and Clark disapprove of each other, and a straightforward plot that brings the two of them into conflict. Lex's most egregious odd behaviors and some of his manipulations are cut, providing less distraction from that core of Bruce and Clark's disagreement. Audio and visual edits recontextualize teasers for later films and remove time-travel continuity now fated never to come to pass.

By cutting out everything not related to Clark and Bruce, their development throughout the story is more clearly seen. As in the official cuts, Clark is struggling with not only whether or not he is accepted as a citizen of Earth, but uncomfortable with how he is deified. Clark's worried whether or not the unintended consequences of his interventions are worth it, and disapproves of Batman's violent methods. Bruce is simply enraged at those unintended consequences and equally terrified that Superman might end up turning on humanity. The infamous Martha moment is replaced with multiple flashbacks to the Thomas and Martha Wayne's deaths throughout the film, really driving home Bruce's PTSD and how it's affecting the way he's reacting to Superman's existence and actions. (The footage is from Batman Begins, presumably because the footage of the Waynes' murder from BvS had this movie's title credits in it.)

All of these choices are extremely effective in making Batman v Superman into a good solid superhero movie. I really enjoyed seeing this focus on the BvS plot and loved seeing Bruce and Clark's unfiltered and direct character development. It really reminded me how much I love these actors as these characters. Unfortunately, wakeupkeo's editing robs both Lex and Lois of their character depth and arcs, also reminding me how much I love those actors as those characters, but through their absence.

By removing Lex's character moments, especially in the benefit speech scene, a whole layer of Lex's motivations and manipulations are lost. Everything which made the character interesting or gave him motivation is gone - his history as a survivor of abuse; his frustration that all his intelligence, which gave him power in human society, is meaningless next to Superman's raw physicality; his hatred for God both as a concept and represented in the person of Superman. While Clark and Bruce retain their character-driven storylines in this cut, Lex completely loses his. He just hates Superman for some unknown reason and, like the Joker, he just "does things." Not "this happens because of that" but "that happens, then this happens."

Similarly, removing the Africa sequence and Lois's investigation relegates Lois to the status of a background character, a plot device with none of her own drive or purpose, only to be put in danger multiple times in order to manipulate Superman. That's consistent with many depictions of Lois over the years, but Snyder/Goyer/Terrio/Adams' version of Lois Lane is the best version of her we've ever had on the big screen - compotent, fierce, and a true journalist. This Lois Lane as seen both in MoS and the BvS: UC is unwilling to abandon the pursuit of truth even when it puts her in danger. This is different than other depictions of Lois where she blithely disregards her own safety, apparently because she's a moron. Losing that depth is a true loss to the film. Losing the vision of Jonathan Kent and the "hero cake" story is also a loss, as is the Knightmare fight sequence. Just as a pet peeve, it felt like the Batman Begins footage for the Wayne murder flashback was overused.

By making Batman v Superman into a good solid superhero movie, I feel wakeupkeo has cut away what made Batman v Superman transcend superhero movies and catapult it into true mythmaking, the things that made it into a great film. As originally produced (and in Ultimate form), BvS is a Shakespearean superhero revenge tragedy crossed with the best of DC's Elseworlds. Watching it in the theater was the closest I've ever felt to reading through classic Bronze and Steel Age DC stories like The Dark Knight Returns, the various Crises on various Earths, Red Son, Grant Morrison's runs on JLA and Batman, Knightfall, Cataclysm/No Man's Land, Death and Rebirth of Superman, etc. Like no other comic book movie, BvS in it's theatrical cut felt like finding a treasure trove of comics, discovering exciting characters anew. There were all these cool hooks into and out of other stories. Zack Snyder was promising all of these things would fit together eventually, and his filmmaking was so masterful and confident that I believed him 100%. It felt like a massive crossover collection missing some of the tie-in books, and having to fill in some of those blanks for myself, but wow was it going to be just about the greatest thing ever when all the books came out, or I found them all in the back issues of the comic book shop! And in addition to all of this, it seemed to reach for something greater and deeper than just being another superhero punch-em-up, going beyond even the deepest Marvel or prior DC movies to resonate themes and tones I had never seen in a superhero film before or since besides ZSJL.

wakeupkeo's cut is a very good, nearly great, superhero movie, and if I had seen this version in the theater, I would have given it a 7/10. 8.5/10 if it didn't cut Lois and Lex's most important moments. It probably would have done somewhat better financially than the theatrical version, as it fits many of the things people seemed to be expecting when they originally went to see BvS. Shooting this script would have been substantially less expensive for WB, too. It seems to be getting fellow comic geeks to re-evaluate my favorite comic book movie of all time, and see the good that was always there. For that, despite the fact that this will probably not be the cut I watch ever again, unless I'm showing it to a friend, I give it my absolute highest recommendation.

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Owner's reply October 10, 2021

Thank you for this thorough and detail feedback, I love this. It really focuses on the motivations for the edits, and I think you points are very valid!

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This entire fanedit trilogy is incredibly well made, it's miles above what WB actually put out.
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This edit of the movie is fantastic!
I watched it through from start to finish without having the feeling that even a second was stalled. Everything makes sense in the cuts and the re-editing and it truly deserves the good rating this fanedit got.

I have to admit in the first third of the film everything moves so quick, making me feel that my blood pressure went up a bit, I don't know if this is due to the fast pace of the original theatric cut and just not a lot could be done here to slow it down a bit, or if some for this version "unnecessary" scenes were cut and the rest was put togehter in a way that speeds up the pace that much. So in a way this makes me understand why the original directors of these movies put in some bloated scenes to make the films less "stressful" to watch through all the many happenings that unfold in front of the audience's eyes. I also have to admit to now having to go through the change list after watching it.

This version to me is the superior one compared to the original cut and the go-to-version for this film and I recommend it to everyone who wants to enjoy Batman v Superman.

There were so incredibly many details changed and cuts made, but they all blend together amazingly so that I never felt like watching a fanedit, besides maybe the above mentioned super fast pace of the first third.

Really the only very small thing story-wise that I realized immediately was that there was a cut when Lex Luthor is in the spaceship, hence not showing him cutting his own hand in order to take control of the ship. Later on, on the roof of his building talking to Superman he lifts his hand and refers to blood, having his hand bandaged for apparently no reason. But I don't think that this will really perplex anyone, and much more important is that the scene of Lex in the spaceship was cut heavily, which I loved since I found these scenes and all it's details unnecessary in the theatric version.

What I liked the most from all the changes, was how the end of the fight between S and B was beautifully edited and the entire scene makes much more sense now for both characters.

I can honestly say only the most important scenes for the story to unfold how it should were left in this movie, all changes were done with a lot of passion, love for the movie and time, for which I personally want to thank the editor, which became one of my favorite faneditors of them all after watching this movie, mad respect!

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I am beyond honored by this review! Thank you so much!!!

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Batman v. Superman is one of the most gratuitously violent movies that I have seen. The botched up pacing, plot, and narrative paired with out of character moments cannot be briefly summarized in order to describe how bad it is. However, I would even argue it is one of the most beautifully filmed movies I have seen. I do also enjoy all of the excellent visual artistic and biblical references are in the movie (I would love to see more movies do that). I can appreciate The Ultimate Cut trying to compensate for many things, but it still wasn't enough.

All I can begin to say about Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice Part 2 is, "Wow!". It makes me so angry and frustrated... that this isn't the final cut we got. This fan created edit of a big budget superhero movie is the pinnacle of fan editing as a whole. This is, without a doubt, my go-to version of Batman v. Superman. To start with the small things, I love the cutting of Zack Snyder's over-the-top edginess. The film now is more in tone with the Christopher Nolan films of yore (feeling a little more tight, grounded, and subdued with spectacle in between). The choice to create a proper suit reveal was amazing, and the approach to a mystery angle (in the cave) will always be appreciated by me. The added Joker laugh when showing Robin's suit was also a neat addition (even if it's a grim reminder of Jared Leto's god awful Joker).

We are now going to the real meat and potatoes of the edit as a whole. Superman's character is considerably improved, this edit makes me interoperate him as a hero suffering depression due to some of the people rejecting him. All of the Lex Luthor scenes are also successfully trimmed in the sense now they do not drag on to hell and back. The restructuring of every scene was done masterfully (example being the Lois x Superman conversation and Bruce's training happening in between) doing well at fixing the pacing. The core focus is now on Batman, Superman, and Wonder-Woman keeping the grand Justice League setup at a minimum. On the subject of Superman, this felt like a proper sequel to Man of Steel thanks to a lot of bloat being cut and now can remember the good scenes that do happen (my brain would zone out during a lot of aforementioned bloat *looking at you Africa scenes*). There are a ton of things done right in this edit that I could go for hours on, but I want to skip to the best edit that I believe we can all agree on. The deletion of the Martha motivation. Removing it in favor of creating a guilty "What am I doing?" kind of moment makes Batman's attempted murder much more impactful (even if there is a scene ripped from Batman Begins).

Nothing wrong with this edit what so ever, this replaces the original and Ultimate Cut without question. I highly recommend this triumph of fan editing. Well done Wakeupkeo, this is a well deserved winner of Fanedit of the Month.

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Great edit! This is a very good alternative cut to the Ultimate Cut of BvS. It is shorter and somehwat streamlined without leaving out any essential bits. As another reviewer here commented - the editor does a very good job at reordering scenes (and exchanging some for scenes from Batman Begins) and telling a cohesive story - to a point that might actually surpass Snyder's original cut. Very well done!

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