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Fall of the Jedi: Episode II – Attack of the Clones
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Original Release Date:
2002
Original Running Time:
142
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Fanedit Running Time:
99 (v.2) / 97 (v.1)
Time Cut:
48 (v.2) / 50 (v.1)
Time Added:
5
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Brief Synopsis:
Continuing with the Fall of the Jedi trilogy, Episode 2 cuts poorly written dialog and bad acting while enhancing the romance we’re suppose to believe in between Anakin and Padme. Also gone are references to R2D2 and C-3PO and moments that broke continuity with the original trilogy.
Intention:
Continuing with the Fall of the Jedi trilogy, Episode 2 cuts poorly written dialog and bad acting while enhancing the romance we’re suppose to believe in between Anakin and Padme. Also gone are references to R2D2 and C-3PO and moments that broke continuity with the original trilogy.
Release Information:
- DVD
- AVCHD
- Blu-Ray
Special Features
- Two deleted scenes
- cutlist subtitle track
- cutlist subtitle track
Editing Details:
Additonal Note: Some early viewers have asked me why I didn’t remove Anakin’s surname from the second film. (He maintains “Skywalker” in the first film as well.) The concern is that by keeping it in the film the audience will know that Luke is related to Anakin in A New Hope.
I never felt that this was a mystery, nor that keeping the audience in the dark about it was needed. My rationale for this is that in my cut of Episode 3 we know Anakin and Padme are pregnant. By the end of the film we know that child is actually twins, but it’s never revealed that one is a boy and one is a girl. Their names are never given either. All we know at the end of the third film is that they need to be split up to be kept safe, and that Padme takes one while Obi-Wan the other. The idea, hopefully, is that most people will assume identical twins, not fraternal. This way the sibling mystery is preserved.
Also, in my cut of Episode 3, the last time we see Anakin is when Obi-Wan walks away from him as he burns alive. We never hear the name “Vader” in my cut, nor do we see Anakin being built into how we see him in the OT. With these changes I feel I’ve maintained the mystery I wanted to preserve. Knowing Luke is the son of Anakin doesn’t hurt the flow in my opinion. Knowing that Anakin is Vader in the OT does, as does knowing Luke and Leia are siblings.
Please remember my goal was to edit the PT in such a way that someone who has never seen any of the Star Wars films could watch them in order without having key moments in the OT spoiled by the PT. In this I feel I have succeeded.
I never felt that this was a mystery, nor that keeping the audience in the dark about it was needed. My rationale for this is that in my cut of Episode 3 we know Anakin and Padme are pregnant. By the end of the film we know that child is actually twins, but it’s never revealed that one is a boy and one is a girl. Their names are never given either. All we know at the end of the third film is that they need to be split up to be kept safe, and that Padme takes one while Obi-Wan the other. The idea, hopefully, is that most people will assume identical twins, not fraternal. This way the sibling mystery is preserved.
Also, in my cut of Episode 3, the last time we see Anakin is when Obi-Wan walks away from him as he burns alive. We never hear the name “Vader” in my cut, nor do we see Anakin being built into how we see him in the OT. With these changes I feel I’ve maintained the mystery I wanted to preserve. Knowing Luke is the son of Anakin doesn’t hurt the flow in my opinion. Knowing that Anakin is Vader in the OT does, as does knowing Luke and Leia are siblings.
Please remember my goal was to edit the PT in such a way that someone who has never seen any of the Star Wars films could watch them in order without having key moments in the OT spoiled by the PT. In this I feel I have succeeded.
Cuts and Additions:
This list is in no way complete, but it should give you a good sense of changes.
(v.2)
- reinstated Obi-Wan conferring with Yoda about Kamino
- cut R2 receiving Obi-Wan's message on Tatooine
(v.1)
- tweaked opening crawl
- flipped camera tilt to Coruscant
- cut “We’re making our final approach…”
- cut “We made it. I guess I was wrong.”
- cut shot of Padme and running to Corde
- cut Corde’s dying words
- cut “The Dark Side clouds everything.”
- cut “See you alive brings warm feelings to my heart.”
- trimmed Obi-Wan and Anakin’s re-introduction to Padme and dialog throughout
- cut Jar Jar and Anakin’s discussion
- cut assassin talking to Jango Fett
- cut Obi-Wan and Anakin’s “You’re using her as bait” discussion while Padme sleeps
- trimmed assassination attempt
- cut “Are you alright, m’lady?”
- trimmed Obi-Wan and Anakin’s chase for the assassin
- trimmed bar scene
- cut scene where Palpatine tells Anakin he will become more powerful than Yoda
- cut scene where Yoda, Windu and Obi-Wan discuss Anakin
- trimmed Padme’s packing scene
- cut Obi-Wan going to diner
- added deleted scene where Obi-Wan has dart tested
- cut Obi-Wan visiting Yoda and the younglings about the missing planet
- added scene where Obi-Wan tells Windu about the missing planet, and his concerns of Anakin
- trimmed Anakin and Padme scene traveling on the ship as refugees
- cut Padme’s visit to the Queen of Naboo
- cut scene of Anakin and Padme standing on the balcony looking over the lake
- added scene of Anakin and Padme having dinner with her family
- trimmed scene of Anakin and Padme’s picnic
- cut Anakin and Padme’s fireplace scene
- cut Windu and Yoda’s discussion about diminished Jedi powers
- cut Anakin’s dream
- cut “I’m sorry. I don’t have a choice.”
- cut R2 from visit to Watto
- cut chase through the planet rings
- cut C-3PO calling Anakin “the maker”
- cut Techo Union Army’s translator glitch
- trimmed Anakin rescuing his mother
- cut Yoda sensing Skywalker’s pain
- trimmed Obi-Wan’s transmission to Anakin
- trimmed Anakin’s confession to Padme
- cut Anakin grabbing a handful of dirt at his mother’s funeral
- cut C-3PO going with Anakin and Padme
- cut “If only Senator Amidala were here.”
- cut droid factory scene
- added Padme trying to negotiate with Dooku
- trimmed Padme’s confession to Anakin that she loves him
- trimmed execution scene
- trimmed clones attack
- cut Yoda and Dooku fight
- cut Dooku meeting up with Palpatine
(v.2)
- reinstated Obi-Wan conferring with Yoda about Kamino
- cut R2 receiving Obi-Wan's message on Tatooine
(v.1)
- tweaked opening crawl
- flipped camera tilt to Coruscant
- cut “We’re making our final approach…”
- cut “We made it. I guess I was wrong.”
- cut shot of Padme and running to Corde
- cut Corde’s dying words
- cut “The Dark Side clouds everything.”
- cut “See you alive brings warm feelings to my heart.”
- trimmed Obi-Wan and Anakin’s re-introduction to Padme and dialog throughout
- cut Jar Jar and Anakin’s discussion
- cut assassin talking to Jango Fett
- cut Obi-Wan and Anakin’s “You’re using her as bait” discussion while Padme sleeps
- trimmed assassination attempt
- cut “Are you alright, m’lady?”
- trimmed Obi-Wan and Anakin’s chase for the assassin
- trimmed bar scene
- cut scene where Palpatine tells Anakin he will become more powerful than Yoda
- cut scene where Yoda, Windu and Obi-Wan discuss Anakin
- trimmed Padme’s packing scene
- cut Obi-Wan going to diner
- added deleted scene where Obi-Wan has dart tested
- cut Obi-Wan visiting Yoda and the younglings about the missing planet
- added scene where Obi-Wan tells Windu about the missing planet, and his concerns of Anakin
- trimmed Anakin and Padme scene traveling on the ship as refugees
- cut Padme’s visit to the Queen of Naboo
- cut scene of Anakin and Padme standing on the balcony looking over the lake
- added scene of Anakin and Padme having dinner with her family
- trimmed scene of Anakin and Padme’s picnic
- cut Anakin and Padme’s fireplace scene
- cut Windu and Yoda’s discussion about diminished Jedi powers
- cut Anakin’s dream
- cut “I’m sorry. I don’t have a choice.”
- cut R2 from visit to Watto
- cut chase through the planet rings
- cut C-3PO calling Anakin “the maker”
- cut Techo Union Army’s translator glitch
- trimmed Anakin rescuing his mother
- cut Yoda sensing Skywalker’s pain
- trimmed Obi-Wan’s transmission to Anakin
- trimmed Anakin’s confession to Padme
- cut Anakin grabbing a handful of dirt at his mother’s funeral
- cut C-3PO going with Anakin and Padme
- cut “If only Senator Amidala were here.”
- cut droid factory scene
- added Padme trying to negotiate with Dooku
- trimmed Padme’s confession to Anakin that she loves him
- trimmed execution scene
- trimmed clones attack
- cut Yoda and Dooku fight
- cut Dooku meeting up with Palpatine
Teaser
User reviews
22 reviews
Overall rating
9.4
Audio/Video Quality
9.6(19)
Audio Editing
9.9(19)
Visual Editing
9.8(19)
Narrative
9.0(19)
Enjoyment
8.7(22)
Overall rating
9.6
Audio/Video Quality
10.0
Audio Editing
10.0
Visual Editing
10.0
Narrative
10.0
Enjoyment
8.0
As with his edit of TPM, Q2's take on episode 2 is a mixed bag of changes I both liked and didn't like resulting again in a version better than the theatrical cut, but not as good as L8wrtr or HAL9000's edits.
User Review
Format Watched?
Digital
Y
Overall rating
8.2
Audio/Video Quality
7.0
Audio Editing
10.0
Visual Editing
10.0
Narrative
8.0
Enjoyment
6.0
Seamless editing and a solid option of viewing AotC in a more straightforward manner. While most of the scenes are successfully trimmed for pacing, the edit overall maintains the film's original structure.
AV quality is consistent with the source, but there are better-looking edits in comparison by now. Also, I found the custom burnt-in alien subtitles to be a bit distracting, I must add.
Concerning the whole of the edited trilogy, the overarching downplay of Vader's identity and direct nods to his heritage in the OT is subtle but well done, and something I wish I'd seen in other edits. As for this episode per se, props for completely excising Yoda and Dooku's fight. While other editors will keep only the Force duel, I think is for the best that we don't see Force lightning wielded by anyone other than The Emperor, as a symbol of his unlimited wickedness; and I always thought that Yoda to the rescue makes Obi and Anakin look incredibly incompetent.
My gripes, however, lie in how most of the visuals are left intact, even in the most edited sequences. Bad digital doubles and creatures are a big turnoff for me, and unfortunately they remain in the spots I resent the most (the Jango v. Obi, for instance). Obviously the source is thoroughly plagued by it, but there are other options that manage to satisfyingly tone it down. That's for personal enjoyment, however, and I shall not dispute it since it's not an specific goal of the edit.
Thank you Q2 for the edit and for generously sharing it!
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AV quality is consistent with the source, but there are better-looking edits in comparison by now. Also, I found the custom burnt-in alien subtitles to be a bit distracting, I must add.
Concerning the whole of the edited trilogy, the overarching downplay of Vader's identity and direct nods to his heritage in the OT is subtle but well done, and something I wish I'd seen in other edits. As for this episode per se, props for completely excising Yoda and Dooku's fight. While other editors will keep only the Force duel, I think is for the best that we don't see Force lightning wielded by anyone other than The Emperor, as a symbol of his unlimited wickedness; and I always thought that Yoda to the rescue makes Obi and Anakin look incredibly incompetent.
My gripes, however, lie in how most of the visuals are left intact, even in the most edited sequences. Bad digital doubles and creatures are a big turnoff for me, and unfortunately they remain in the spots I resent the most (the Jango v. Obi, for instance). Obviously the source is thoroughly plagued by it, but there are other options that manage to satisfyingly tone it down. That's for personal enjoyment, however, and I shall not dispute it since it's not an specific goal of the edit.
Thank you Q2 for the edit and for generously sharing it!
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User Review
Format Watched?
Digital
T
Overall rating
10.0
Audio/Video Quality
10.0
Audio Editing
10.0
Visual Editing
10.0
Narrative
10.0
Enjoyment
10.0
Disclaimer: It has been years since I've watched the prequels, so I can't compare this too well to the original AotC.
Just like the last in the series, this edit was technically flawless. I didn't notice a single cut/transition made, and the pacing was greatly improved compared to how I remember the original being.
Attack of the Clones used to be my least favourite of the prequels, and my least favourite of all Star Wars. After watching this edit, along with the first in the series, I have changed my rankings to place AotC above TPM. This movie was actually pretty enjoyable, some of the scenes are really cool, and I don't remember anything because I've only seen this film a couple times, but I think cutting whatever you did was a very good choice.
Just like the last in the series, this edit was technically flawless. I didn't notice a single cut/transition made, and the pacing was greatly improved compared to how I remember the original being.
Attack of the Clones used to be my least favourite of the prequels, and my least favourite of all Star Wars. After watching this edit, along with the first in the series, I have changed my rankings to place AotC above TPM. This movie was actually pretty enjoyable, some of the scenes are really cool, and I don't remember anything because I've only seen this film a couple times, but I think cutting whatever you did was a very good choice.
M
Overall rating
9.0
Audio/Video Quality
10.0
Audio Editing
10.0
Visual Editing
10.0
Narrative
8.0
Enjoyment
7.0
Easily my least favourite Star Wars flick and now I find it watchable. Q2 has done an excellent job here, the only issues I had with it were the story from the source material and there's only so much that could be changed! Still, If I can get through a sitting of AOTC then we've all achieved something!
User Review
Do you recommend this edit?
Yes
Format Watched?
Blu-Ray
J
Overall rating
9.0
Audio/Video Quality
9.0
Audio Editing
10.0
Visual Editing
9.0
Narrative
9.0
Enjoyment
8.0
Nice effort by Q2 - Highly recommended!
User Review
Do you recommend this edit?
Yes
Format Watched?
Digital
E